Foxes - Single handed and pairs (Pre Ban)

[brog 670]

what would be a good number for a good fox dog in a week ? pre ban

 

 

Really?

Who gives a shit?

 

It depends entirely on your abilities, your dedication, the game on the ground, the environmental conditions, the ground you are running, the dogs abilities, the dogs technique.

 

If you want a simple answer I will say 10

 

FTB

that was simple ....if you dont give a shit dont post........i thought it would be a simple thing to a pro fox dog man witch this site is full of but no one can or will answer

[FightTheBan 1,147]

what would be a good number for a good fox dog in a week ? pre ban

 

 

Really?

Who gives a shit?

 

It depends entirely on your abilities, your dedication, the game on the ground, the environmental conditions, the ground you are running, the dogs abilities, the dogs technique.

 

If you want a simple answer I will say 10

 

FTB

that was simple ....if you dont give a shit dont post........i thought it would be a simple thing to a pro fox dog man witch this site is full of but no one can or will answer

 

Thats because it can't be answered. There are too many variables.

 

Its like asking how many foxes does my dog have to do before he is a 100% fox dog?

How many times do I have to dig my terrier before he is proven?

 

Catch my drift.

 

FTB

[123456 146]

That's fair enough ftb, down here you couldn't put the same amount of game infront of dogd in different areas of the country. Its like living in cornwall and saying how often does my dog need to catch hares daytime to be a hare dog? If that was the case you'd need to travel atleast 100 miles to even run them daytime

[brog 670]

what would be a good number for a good fox dog in a week ? pre ban

 

 

Really?

Who gives a shit?

 

It depends entirely on your abilities, your dedication, the game on the ground, the environmental conditions, the ground you are running, the dogs abilities, the dogs technique.

 

If you want a simple answer I will say 10

 

FTB

that was simple ....if you dont give a shit dont post........i thought it would be a simple thing to a pro fox dog man witch this site is full of but no one can or will answer

 

Thats because it can't be answered. There are too many variables.

 

Its like asking how many foxes does my dog have to do before he is a 100% fox dog?

How many times do I have to dig my terrier before he is proven?

 

Catch my drift.

 

FTB

i understand what your saying and peoples catch rate will be different in different areas i was just trying to see what peoples views where.........if you have lack of foxes in your area and never run a good number you cant test a dog i.m.o

[craigyboy 1,274]

not this old chestnut again macky,have you got an inferiority complex about single handed dogs ive never doubled up,ever,slipping two 70lb lurchers on one 20lb fox and as for numbers,why double up,i go out with my mate and one dog each and when were lamping we just take turns,1st fox mine,2nd fox his,3rd mine and so on, and are the dogs fit to go out the following night...of course they are,a good lurcher takes very little time and punishment in dispatching old charlie,if your dogs taking plenty of stick when dealing wi charlie then maybe you should try rabbiting

your full of shit

whys that then smartarse is it because youve never come across anyone with a good dog,if you think im full o shit because of what ive wrote,then im thinking you havent got a fecking clue stick to rabbiting or carry on doubling up

i said you full of shit cause you are pal ... whats thar get 3 foxs a season you f*****g prick tha knows fukc all an thas done even less thas not got a dog good enough to even compete with 1 a mine ye fukcing idiot an if you think i aint seen or got a good dog then put your single hander were yer mouth is an ile run my doubled up dog single handed against your single hander if not then shut the fukc up ok

thats a shocking way to speak to anyone how can you say your dogs better than his have you seen it, its play ground stuff the hard part is catching not the killing

dont worry yourself mate,i fecking dont, he doesnt even warrant a reply, just another hardman sat behind his keyboard

not an hard man at all but a dont sit on here chatting shit all day my dogs actually get work an a know there capabilitys an a know about foxs an what it takes to bring them to justice so to speak

i never said you did,but what gives you the impression i do ive been hunting 30 yrs with the same mate,just me an him,and in all that time i can honestly say wev'e never doubled up,but then again we cant go out every single night of the week as we both work,probs 3 sometimes 4 and our dogs can cope wi that..could they cope wi anymore than that...im not sure,i know what your saying tho fair play

Edited September 27, 2011 by craigyboy

[redcharge 378]

A fox would be despatched quicker by a single dog as it becomes a tug of war when doubled up ...imo if you gave a deer a hare and a fox 100yard law charlie would be the easiest caught ....but thats if the dog wants to catch it

 

That is always the question mate, most dogs that put more than a handful of bends into one with out pulling it don't really want it.

thats a bold stament to make, like saying if the dog puts more than 15 bends in a hare it dont want it

 

Its a true statement none the less, we all like to kid ourself on sometimes but the fact is a decent enough dog will be up to its fox fast and a fully commited animal will pull that fox within 3 or 4 turns jmho.............anything more is just f*****g about, again JMHO

 

I disagree with you on this lads I think alot depends on the type of ground your running, before the ban we used to do small paddocks, playing fields, parks etc and seen plenty of foxes tie some dogs in knots especially the bigger dogs and I can assure you it wasnt beacause they didnt want them, the dogs just couldn't make the ground up they lost on the turn quick enough especially when the ground was harder. But if a fox got away from a dog in the type of fields in Moo's pictures I would seriously be questioning the dogs. JMHO

[Simoman 110]

No need to argue fellas, we can see what your both saying As i said, when it was legal we would double ours up as we may only run a couple a night on some areas and we wanted a run....As i said ALL mine were required to be able to work single handed and prove themselves but many times i would double up.

 

I think the main problem is that many folk used to take perhaps a dozen a season and say they had a proven fox dog, not in my eyes, many would take the occasional fox but aren't so keen when charlie was on the menu every night they went out, only single handed fox dogs should of been bred from IF foxing lurchers were required

 

I'll stick to the bunnies now

[brigg 54]

iv herd it all aswell simo. these c**ts thats go out and catch a few foxes a season but they go on as if they have the best fox dogs about. me personaly if couldent get 60 + a season i woulden bother ma arse keeping a fox dog i dont see the point.

[old timer123 367]

not this old chestnut again macky,have you got an inferiority complex about single handed dogs ive never doubled up,ever,slipping two 70lb lurchers on one 20lb fox and as for numbers,why double up,i go out with my mate and one dog each and when were lamping we just take turns,1st fox mine,2nd fox his,3rd mine and so on, and are the dogs fit to go out the following night...of course they are,a good lurcher takes very little time and punishment in dispatching old charlie,if your dogs taking plenty of stick when dealing wi charlie then maybe you should try rabbiting

your full of shit

whys that then smartarse is it because youve never come across anyone with a good dog,if you think im full o shit because of what ive wrote,then im thinking you havent got a fecking clue stick to rabbiting or carry on doubling up

i said you full of shit cause you are pal ... whats thar get 3 foxs a season you f*****g prick tha knows fukc all an thas done even less thas not got a dog good enough to even compete with 1 a mine ye fukcing idiot an if you think i aint seen or got a good dog then put your single hander were yer mouth is an ile run my doubled up dog single handed against your single hander if not then shut the fukc up ok

thats a shocking way to speak to anyone how can you say your dogs better than his have you seen it, its play ground stuff the hard part is catching not the killing

dont worry yourself mate,i fecking dont, he doesnt even warrant a reply, just another hardman sat behind his keyboard

not an hard man at all but a dont sit on here chatting shit all day my dogs actually get work an a know there capabilitys an a know about foxs an what it takes to bring them to justice so to speak

i never said you did,but what gives you the impression i do ive been hunting 30 yrs with the same mate,just me an him,and in all that time i can honestly say wev'e never doubled up,but then again we cant go out every single night of the week as we both work,probs 3 sometimes 4 and our dogs can cope wi that..could they cope wi anymore than that...im not sure,i know what your saying tho fair play

if ypou`ve never doubled up then i think you cant be taking many foxs a season foxs in number take some catching an thats a fact i think single handed you`l miss far more than you caught so to be honest less you`ve got some top ground with easy foxs that arent lamp shy you couldnt have been taking many... i use to run my dogs doubled cause a use to enjoy mopping up foxs pre ban an use to enjoy testing my dogs to see if theyd jack on em cause foxs in number can make the best bred dogs jack whether they weigh 15 to 20 pound or not when that fox locks on a dogs face or leg it gives them pain an to keep taking that kind of pain week in week out through season takes a very special game dog beleive me :thumbs:

[Macky 227]

this is answer to craigy boy i dont usually bite ,you did not answer my question if i put 10 foxes in front of a single handed dog how many would it catch ,you did not answer the question and you have never said how many your single handed dogs have missed ,maybe you should take a few steps back ,i think you should stick to rabbiting or have a night out ?

[123456 146]

In south devon where I am, I'd expect 2-3 caught from 10 but as the fields get bigger I'd put the numbers upto arouund 7

[craigyboy 1,274]

this is answer to craigy boy i dont usually bite ,you did not answer my question if i put 10 foxes in front of a single handed dog how many would it catch ,you did not answer the question and you have never said how many your single handed dogs have missed ,maybe you should take a few steps back ,i think you should stick to rabbiting or have a night out ?

i cant really answer that question,if they were within 6ft then id say all of em but you and me know thats not always the case,so i dont really know,and as for how many my dogs have missed...id say a shitload,theyre not superdogs but they catch more than they miss...theyre andy cole bred

[craigyboy 1,274]

not this old chestnut again macky,have you got an inferiority complex about single handed dogs ive never doubled up,ever,slipping two 70lb lurchers on one 20lb fox and as for numbers,why double up,i go out with my mate and one dog each and when were lamping we just take turns,1st fox mine,2nd fox his,3rd mine and so on, and are the dogs fit to go out the following night...of course they are,a good lurcher takes very little time and punishment in dispatching old charlie,if your dogs taking plenty of stick when dealing wi charlie then maybe you should try rabbiting

your full of shit

whys that then smartarse is it because youve never come across anyone with a good dog,if you think im full o shit because of what ive wrote,then im thinking you havent got a fecking clue stick to rabbiting or carry on doubling up

i said you full of shit cause you are pal ... whats thar get 3 foxs a season you f*****g prick tha knows fukc all an thas done even less thas not got a dog good enough to even compete with 1 a mine ye fukcing idiot an if you think i aint seen or got a good dog then put your single hander were yer mouth is an ile run my doubled up dog single handed against your single hander if not then shut the fukc up ok

thats a shocking way to speak to anyone how can you say your dogs better than his have you seen it, its play ground stuff the hard part is catching not the killing

dont worry yourself mate,i fecking dont, he doesnt even warrant a reply, just another hardman sat behind his keyboard

not an hard man at all but a dont sit on here chatting shit all day my dogs actually get work an a know there capabilitys an a know about foxs an what it takes to bring them to justice so to speak

i never said you did,but what gives you the impression i do ive been hunting 30 yrs with the same mate,just me an him,and in all that time i can honestly say wev'e never doubled up,but then again we cant go out every single night of the week as we both work,probs 3 sometimes 4 and our dogs can cope wi that..could they cope wi anymore than that...im not sure,i know what your saying tho fair play

if ypou`ve never doubled up then i think you cant be taking many foxs a season foxs in number take some catching an thats a fact i think single handed you`l miss far more than you caught so to be honest less you`ve got some top ground with easy foxs that arent lamp shy you couldnt have been taking many... i use to run my dogs doubled cause a use to enjoy mopping up foxs pre ban an use to enjoy testing my dogs to see if theyd jack on em cause foxs in number can make the best bred dogs jack whether they weigh 15 to 20 pound or not when that fox locks on a dogs face or leg it gives them pain an to keep taking that kind of pain week in week out through season takes a very special game dog beleive me :thumbs:

i agree i also agree it takes a very special game dog and believe me some people do own such dogs

[old timer123 367]

not this old chestnut again macky,have you got an inferiority complex about single handed dogs ive never doubled up,ever,slipping two 70lb lurchers on one 20lb fox and as for numbers,why double up,i go out with my mate and one dog each and when were lamping we just take turns,1st fox mine,2nd fox his,3rd mine and so on, and are the dogs fit to go out the following night...of course they are,a good lurcher takes very little time and punishment in dispatching old charlie,if your dogs taking plenty of stick when dealing wi charlie then maybe you should try rabbiting

your full of shit

whys that then smartarse is it because youve never come across anyone with a good dog,if you think im full o shit because of what ive wrote,then im thinking you havent got a fecking clue stick to rabbiting or carry on doubling up

i said you full of shit cause you are pal ... whats thar get 3 foxs a season you f*****g prick tha knows fukc all an thas done even less thas not got a dog good enough to even compete with 1 a mine ye fukcing idiot an if you think i aint seen or got a good dog then put your single hander were yer mouth is an ile run my doubled up dog single handed against your single hander if not then shut the fukc up ok

thats a shocking way to speak to anyone how can you say your dogs better than his have you seen it, its play ground stuff the hard part is catching not the killing

dont worry yourself mate,i fecking dont, he doesnt even warrant a reply, just another hardman sat behind his keyboard

not an hard man at all but a dont sit on here chatting shit all day my dogs actually get work an a know there capabilitys an a know about foxs an what it takes to bring them to justice so to speak

i never said you did,but what gives you the impression i do ive been hunting 30 yrs with the same mate,just me an him,and in all that time i can honestly say wev'e never doubled up,but then again we cant go out every single night of the week as we both work,probs 3 sometimes 4 and our dogs can cope wi that..could they cope wi anymore than that...im not sure,i know what your saying tho fair play

if ypou`ve never doubled up then i think you cant be taking many foxs a season foxs in number take some catching an thats a fact i think single handed you`l miss far more than you caught so to be honest less you`ve got some top ground with easy foxs that arent lamp shy you couldnt have been taking many... i use to run my dogs doubled cause a use to enjoy mopping up foxs pre ban an use to enjoy testing my dogs to see if theyd jack on em cause foxs in number can make the best bred dogs jack whether they weigh 15 to 20 pound or not when that fox locks on a dogs face or leg it gives them pain an to keep taking that kind of pain week in week out through season takes a very special game dog beleive me :thumbs:

i agree i also agree it takes a very special game dog and believe me some people do own such dogs

i know they do bud lol what about a night out then buddy ile fetch my gun an we will see how many foxs our dogs can retreive for us im prepared to travel to lancs if your up for it bud ???

[craigyboy 1,274]

not likely mate,we tryed it once and our permission got abused,once bitten an all that and im not being funny but i dont think i need to prove my dog to someone i dont know the reason some people have good dogs is they dont make a song and dance about it,good dogs have a tendency to go missing