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iedited in haste just to say not getting at you moll, the bit about killing cubs was not direct entirely at you, just my general though on it. i can see your situation was not entierly planned.

:laugh: Damn right it was'nt :laugh: Im mainly a bunnie and rat girl, fox are just the unlucky ones who stray across our path. And believe it or not, we have no fox earths here at all, i know this land inside and out, even the farmed though it very strange when i told him.....ive walked past the same tree every single day, so im presuming she has moved them there overnight?

I dont like cubs or their mothers killed either, and would never do it intentionally but as someone pointed out to me...

"everything deserves time to breed" Said the vixen as she passed her way through the flock of lambs on her way to get her cubs a McDonalds.
The farmer does'nt have many stock and any lambs taken would be a major problem to him. At least this way the cubs were killed cleanly and quickly. And not left to starve to death after someone shot the lamb killing fox :cry:

MOLL.

 

nice pics molly, the dogs look like they were really enjoying that,was the lurcher trying to eat the tree :laugh:

Gets a bit frustrated does our Jazz :laugh: She got her reward later :good:

 

socks Posted Today, 06:18 PM

well done to the dogs ... millet looks like a little pixy chopping away with that axe ....

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

Ian Posted Today, 06:20 PM

Ah its good when you just come across stuff without actually looking isn't it ...I bet the farmers right happy, the gamekeepers near us have a few snare lines round the woods to catch critters and with the lamp so there making a dent now they have more time on their hands... millet will be happy anyway, hes like a terrier

Bit of a shock actually, especially when Doris got stcuk, had visions of having to fell the tree :blink:

Millet was like a dog at broth, certainly livened his weekend up :laugh::D

MOLL.

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i enjoyed that thread :clapper: then somebody goes and spoils it :cry:

 

a simple observation lukey boy, anyone who has done a good amount of terrier work will tell you the possibilty of too dogs to ground(especially to a quarry that fight for her cubs to the death) is a recipe for disaster.

 

killing cubs is a personal choice, and a forum is a place voice your personal choices. sometimes there is a need to kill cubs, but most of the time there is not, i actually think its no better than taking a litter of pups away from a dog and killing them.

 

hope that clears my post up for you.

 

wink ;)

 

edited in haste just to say not getting at you moll, the bit about killing cubs was not direct entirely at you, just my general though on it. i can see your situation was not entierly planned.

point taking mate :victory:

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Molly dont listen to the nugget's with there cluless negetive replies.. ;) .. a collar on a dog in that situation would of made no difference what so ever.. and half of the people on here spouting shite wouldn't know how to use one anyway or infact even have the dog's to need a use for one..

You want to be well proud of terra for sticking in there after her initial shock and with her going in for more show's she is well up to the job.. :yes: .. and when the keeper hear's about this you may well have your work cut out with other earth's to clear.. :yes: .. the farmer was equaly as pleased as i could see his face light up when he was told of the pest control that had just been carried out on his lambing field's..

Brilliant day... :good: ..even if it was not planned..

Millet

 

my comments were based on the facts of what i was seeing, it has been discussed and things are a little clearer on both side, however you have just made a very wrong statement. im affraid you casting your net on nuggets on the net (which i will agree with ) does not include me mate.

im fairly good with the old locaters and do have the odd mutt that seems to do the job, i have also done my fare share of terrier work, enough to know that 2 dogs to ground hard or not is not a good thing,and enough to know that you can never say for definate where any hole goes under ground, so if a dog goes to ground it wise to have a collor. aint gonna get in argument mate, these things are fcats end of story.

 

molly,

true what you say about the farmer, im just of the preserving type that would give it the benifit of the dout, and then if real trouble was being caused id of investigated further, the odd fox about the lambing feild isnt nessecerly a bad thing.

 

still im glad your wee dog did the business for you, maybe just a reminder to be abit more careful, although you know your ground. i wouldnt like to think we have a post about unsecrilly smashed up dogs(which it could of been), im sure you would agree.

 

cheers wink

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YEP MOLLY ,

 

ITS SURPRIZEING WHAT YOU CAN COME ACROSS WHEN JUST OUT FOR THE MORNING STRETCH :whistle:

 

TO BE HONEST ..... IT DOESNT SIT WELL WITH ME KILLING YOUNGSTERS BY ANY MEANS ........... HOWEVER SOMETIMES ITS JUST GOT TO BE DONE ........... SIMPLE AS THAT :victory:

 

ALL THE BEST AND WELL DONE

 

DUCKWING ;)

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We had no idea there were cubs, if we did i'd have marched everyone home sharpish, you can bet on that.

We only continued to dig/chop to give Terra her reward.

When we realised to was too late :cry:

I have mixed emotions tonight, over the moon that the lurchers and terriers all did their seperate jobs well. Terra took more bites than i care to count, Doris stood her ground albeit silently when Terra changed places, Molly was like a little dog possessed...was more like a 3yr old than her actual 10yrs. Khan and Jazz, did what lurchers do best....Jazz like an old pro, and Khan (dog most dim) and a complete novice, has a fair bit of swelling tonight,..... it remains to be seen how he will react next time (if there ever is one?)

Then there is the guilt about the cubs and a mother defending them, not a thought i want to keep in my head. My only justification and way of dealing with it is to think that it was all very quick today...and as ive already said better they all died today than slowly if the vix had been shot....and she definately would have been, with a set very near the farm in the middle of 2 lambing fields.

Anyway, all completely natural emotions im sure and ill probs feel different again tomorrow.

MOLL.

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killing is killing whether it is young or old death is the same ... but the only proper way to deliver death is as quickly and as painlessly as possible ... and if you can justify that in your own head then there is no question to answer ..............

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Can not for the life of me see a problem with that what so ever. :no:

 

Top pest control Moll :clapper: , well done lass and a cradit to them dogs of yours, they are CHAMPION :yes:

 

All the best ;)

 

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