dropping short

[chay 0]

hey folks training my bullx at the moment and she has started

to drop the dummy short at handover. any ideas how to remedy this

im going to try tying it to a string like on purdys progress but any other tips

would be appreciated. she is 8 months old and the basics are in place

cheers

[parkstone 24]

as your bitch approches you back away from her giving her encouragement to keep coming this will encourage her to keep coming towards you with the dummy till she gets the idea of delivering it to hand.should take long for the penny to drop.

[Guest oldskool]

my wee black pup herbie is doing the same thing with a sock... i tried walking back from him but it makes no difference, he just drops it and comes running back??? the wee white one is retrievin a treat so far.. shes alot keener to chase after the sock too... i was thinkin about laying the black pup off the retrievin for a while because he doesnt seem to be keen on chasin after it as much and gets really bored after a throw or 2??? i dont want to sicken him ... i dont want to make a mess of things at this stage of the game

 

sorry to rob the thread chay

[rob reynolds uk 3]

any dog that dont come all the way to you this is what you must do , just drop down to one knee or get down to the dogs level ,it does work a pup needs to have fun so keep the training short

Edited March 18, 2007 by rob reynolds uk

[tote 856]

It might be worth trying different dummies untill you find one that your pup

prefers more than the others and it will not drop it and leave it.

When the pup does arrive back at you with the dummy talk to it and stroke it

for 30 seconds or so before gently taking the dummy off it.

[Morris 0]

I have a 6 month bullx pup, she was the same, but i tried sitting in front off her bed, she would come running back to the bed with the dummy. slowly i moved away from the bed, it has worked so far, my problem is getting the little dunger to leave. But the retreiving is going well.

[skycat 6,174]

This is going to upset some folk, but it worked for me when I have a pup lacking in confidence and dropping the dummy short. This is what I did..........got an old towel, tied a few knots in it, (or use something similar,) and I really wound the dog up with it, chucking it about and encouraging the dog to mouth it. I know, I know, we're not supposed to let dogs mouth and pull at things, but it can help if the dog is unsure of you or what its supposed to be doing. Then, when she was really happy and excited I actually played tug of war with her(this is why you need a towel or something that is strong enough not to come to bits) Don't play the game too long, just a few seconds, then say 'Give' in a strong voice. Then praise the dog loads and be all fussy with it again just to let it know its done the right thing. By changing the tone of voice the dog will know the game is over and its up to you to decide when the game is over, so the dog hasn't got control of the situation.

This worked for me on several occasions, and once the dog is bringing you the rag and expecting you to play tug of war with it your problem is solved as the dog will be hanging on to the rag ready for the game. All you need to do then is gradually phase out the tug of war bit as the pup matures. I'm not guarnateeing it'll work with every dog, but it has done for me.

[chay 0]

well i tried getting down to the dogs level and the retrieves came more definate to hand

but as soon as i touched the dummy with my fingertips she let go the dummy

it was a marked improvement but suddenly after about 8 retrieves she blanked the

dummy and wouldnt even acknowlege it was there she just looked at it as if to say get it yer fckn self mate

im going to try this again tho as it was a step forward.be good to hear how everyone else

is getting on at this stage of training cheers chay

[cymruguy69 5]

well i tried getting down to the dogs level and the retrieves came more definate to hand

but as soon as i touched the dummy with my fingertips she let go the dummy

it was a marked improvement but suddenly after about 8 retrieves she blanked the

dummy and wouldnt even acknowlege it was there she just looked at it as if to say get it yer fckn self mate

im going to try this again tho as it was a step forward.be good to hear how everyone else

is getting on at this stage of training cheers chay

 

The dog will get very bored if you do to much my pup does anyway!

 

They're obviously thinking "I'm not going to give it to you if you keep throwing it away"!

 

Just do 2 or maybe 3 a day on your walk and spread them out this will then keep the dog entertained and not jus retrieve after retrieve!!

 

Hope this Helps

[Irish Lurcher 1,013]

Give the thing a shamrock.

[whin 463]

dont give him any more than three or four retreives maybe twice a week unless he loves it,

take him to a lane throw the rabbit dummmy the minute he grabs it run backwards faceing him, call ,him bend down quick the dog stops quick cause hees running ,youve conned him pat him , do it once more call it a day , surely youll get there ive got line bred colllie crosses who are natural retreivers , who sit with the rabbit alive in the mouth if i make them , no need for that tho , the saluk crosses i have retreive well , dont sicken your pup or maybe the damage has been done , i dont no all the best

[whin 463]

i make two or three dummies for them one out of phesi wings then a rabbit dummy then a rolled up piece of deer skin when there six moons ,they love it only things mines , dont bring bare dummies back.the saluk line. the collie cross does but the saluk like the real fur to keep them intrested , in saying that ,they willl pick dummies up when they are all out, if i throw something, there a bit jealous they run back to me , last week i was out lamping tyne and mhirn caugth a rabbit , one had the head one had the back , they retrereived it back to me ,i killed it , ive had some saluks who lost intrest with retreiving but mostly the game they were bred to catch you couldnt retreive it so they never got much small qaurry ,

[chay 0]

well lads took the advice probly a bit here and there and i went back to the sock

for a dummy ,played about with it, lobbed it in the garden only and bang right back to my hand

so i did it twice more over the space of an hour 3 retrieves for the nite and stopped at

that but it was 3 perfect retrieves, ian openshaw the spaniel man would have

been impressed.cheers for the advice lads keep it coming cos experience dont come from a book

[whin 463]

very true chay ,i learned as a youth from a good spaniel man and bastarised his training to adapt to my lurchers and greyhounds as yun un, we used to train a little cocker bitch jodie, mid eighties she was litle bugger , i went away, came back to see my freind he got second in the whole of the uk cocker trails ,he standing with the queen getting his pic taken not my seen ,but he had to to get presented with a trophy any way this jap offerd him three grand for the bitch , he tells him were to go , she bred two litts none as good but he has some of the same line who are good three gens down the line alll the best, with your training