problem with dog going into cover while lamping

[the big chief 3,099]

WHY THATS A GOOD THING 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 THE QUARRY WILL COME BACK OUT ,I LIKE A DOG 2 SMASH THE COVER ,MITE BEEN MORE INJURYS BUT CATCH RATE WILL RISE

So you would rather see dog hurt its self just to see you catch rate go up???Its not for me don't mind dog going in but not flat out too many dogs have died or the hunting career over by doing this but everyone till there own

no quarry is worth the dogs life or injurys but if the dogs aware of its surrudings ,its heart in your mouth stuff but if your dogs pulls up 10 yds from cover then it hasn,t got the drive in my imo ,it can be dangerous but that just the way it is somtimes ,some dogs do it some don,t ,i think it would be hard 2 stop it doing it apart from takeing the lamp before the hedge but would that not increase the chance of injury

Am not saying that dog should stop 10yards away but if the rabbit is cover and the dog still 10 yards away l would not want the dog just crashing into a hedge for no reason(my own dogs stop have listen they hear anything then they go in) when there is nothing in sight what point smash hedge for no reason.They always going be more rabbits in the next field.

If dog it up the rabbits ass and it hits cover well the dog should be right in behind it.

Think its a lot harder with the hedges and ditches still being so thick but gets easy as the season goes on and the cover dies down a bit.

Rather a dog miss a rabbit in a hedge then smashing it and getting vet bill worth£££££££ and the season being over before it has started

1000% agree with last statement my was when the dog was on the quaryy arse

thats a main factor if he is on its ass then he smashes into the bushes if the rabbit has a bit of a lead as i said he tends to slow down before entering some good advice fellas not too sure about shock collar im not a fan i prefer old fashion methods positive reinforcement etc but im a begginer so all advice welcome

you dont do it when the dog is up the bunys arse that would be stuppid you only do it when ther is a bit of a gap when the buny enters the cover then the dog trys to thats when you do it theas coller work fore a veriaty of thing if you have tride every thing befour hand and nothing is working thats when you try the collers may be i didnt explain my self corectly be four

[trinder 127]

WHY THATS A GOOD THING 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 THE QUARRY WILL COME BACK OUT ,I LIKE A DOG 2 SMASH THE COVER ,MITE BEEN MORE INJURYS BUT CATCH RATE WILL RISE

So you would rather see dog hurt its self just to see you catch rate go up???Its not for me don't mind dog going in but not flat out too many dogs have died or the hunting career over by doing this but everyone till there own

no quarry is worth the dogs life or injurys but if the dogs aware of its surrudings ,its heart in your mouth stuff but if your dogs pulls up 10 yds from cover then it hasn,t got the drive in my imo ,it can be dangerous but that just the way it is somtimes ,some dogs do it some don,t ,i think it would be hard 2 stop it doing it apart from takeing the lamp before the hedge but would that not increase the chance of injury

Am not saying that dog should stop 10yards away but if the rabbit is cover and the dog still 10 yards away l would not want the dog just crashing into a hedge for no reason(my own dogs stop have listen they hear anything then they go in) when there is nothing in sight what point smash hedge for no reason.They always going be more rabbits in the next field.

If dog it up the rabbits ass and it hits cover well the dog should be right in behind it.

Think its a lot harder with the hedges and ditches still being so thick but gets easy as the season goes on and the cover dies down a bit.

Rather a dog miss a rabbit in a hedge then smashing it and getting vet bill worth£££££££ and the season being over before it has started

1000% agree with last statement my was when the dog was on the quaryy arse

thats a main factor if he is on its ass then he smashes into the bushes if the rabbit has a bit of a lead as i said he tends to slow down before entering some good advice fellas not too sure about shock collar im not a fan i prefer old fashion methods positive reinforcement etc but im a begginer so all advice welcome

you dont do it when the dog is up the bunys arse that would be stuppid you only do it when ther is a bit of a gap when the buny enters the cover then the dog trys to thats when you do it theas coller work fore a veriaty of thing if you have tride every thing befour hand and nothing is working thats when you try the collers may be i didnt explain my self corectly be four

sorry mate i should have gone a bit more in depth about that im not against collers i was cosidering using 1 for 1 of my terriers but my lurcher is a bit funny he is an ex rescue dog the people i had him off treated him very badly and all it takes is for 1 thing to scare him or disstess him and he weary all day

[the big chief 3,099]

WHY THATS A GOOD THING 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 THE QUARRY WILL COME BACK OUT ,I LIKE A DOG 2 SMASH THE COVER ,MITE BEEN MORE INJURYS BUT CATCH RATE WILL RISE

So you would rather see dog hurt its self just to see you catch rate go up???Its not for me don't mind dog going in but not flat out too many dogs have died or the hunting career over by doing this but everyone till there own

no quarry is worth the dogs life or injurys but if the dogs aware of its surrudings ,its heart in your mouth stuff but if your dogs pulls up 10 yds from cover then it hasn,t got the drive in my imo ,it can be dangerous but that just the way it is somtimes ,some dogs do it some don,t ,i think it would be hard 2 stop it doing it apart from takeing the lamp before the hedge but would that not increase the chance of injury

Am not saying that dog should stop 10yards away but if the rabbit is cover and the dog still 10 yards away l would not want the dog just crashing into a hedge for no reason(my own dogs stop have listen they hear anything then they go in) when there is nothing in sight what point smash hedge for no reason.They always going be more rabbits in the next field.

If dog it up the rabbits ass and it hits cover well the dog should be right in behind it.

Think its a lot harder with the hedges and ditches still being so thick but gets easy as the season goes on and the cover dies down a bit.

Rather a dog miss a rabbit in a hedge then smashing it and getting vet bill worth£££££££ and the season being over before it has started

1000% agree with last statement my was when the dog was on the quaryy arse

thats a main factor if he is on its ass then he smashes into the bushes if the rabbit has a bit of a lead as i said he tends to slow down before entering some good advice fellas not too sure about shock collar im not a fan i prefer old fashion methods positive reinforcement etc but im a begginer so all advice welcome

you dont do it when the dog is up the bunys arse that would be stuppid you only do it when ther is a bit of a gap when the buny enters the cover then the dog trys to thats when you do it theas coller work fore a veriaty of thing if you have tride every thing befour hand and nothing is working thats when you try the collers may be i didnt explain my self corectly be four

sorry mate i should have gone a bit more in depth about that im not against collers i was cosidering using 1 for 1 of my terriers but my lurcher is a bit funny he is an ex rescue dog the people i had him off treated him very badly and all it takes is for 1 thing to scare him or disstess him and he weary all day

it ok pall i have one with a power levle on it ive only used mine on 3 mark i have tride it on my self its more of a tingle on that power seting its all about shit what happend then wher did that come from best go back to who i no and wher i an safe when you shock the dog but yes you do have to be very careful [bANNED TEXT] useing one you dont wont f*****g idiots with them shocking the dog willy nilly a lad i no kept coming four mine but i wouldnt lend it him he said his dog was wineing in the car so he wontad to shock the dog i told him ton fek of he is a f*****g idiot

[trinder 127]

WHY THATS A GOOD THING 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 THE QUARRY WILL COME BACK OUT ,I LIKE A DOG 2 SMASH THE COVER ,MITE BEEN MORE INJURYS BUT CATCH RATE WILL RISE

So you would rather see dog hurt its self just to see you catch rate go up???Its not for me don't mind dog going in but not flat out too many dogs have died or the hunting career over by doing this but everyone till there own

no quarry is worth the dogs life or injurys but if the dogs aware of its surrudings ,its heart in your mouth stuff but if your dogs pulls up 10 yds from cover then it hasn,t got the drive in my imo ,it can be dangerous but that just the way it is somtimes ,some dogs do it some don,t ,i think it would be hard 2 stop it doing it apart from takeing the lamp before the hedge but would that not increase the chance of injury

Am not saying that dog should stop 10yards away but if the rabbit is cover and the dog still 10 yards away l would not want the dog just crashing into a hedge for no reason(my own dogs stop have listen they hear anything then they go in) when there is nothing in sight what point smash hedge for no reason.They always going be more rabbits in the next field.

If dog it up the rabbits ass and it hits cover well the dog should be right in behind it.

Think its a lot harder with the hedges and ditches still being so thick but gets easy as the season goes on and the cover dies down a bit.

Rather a dog miss a rabbit in a hedge then smashing it and getting vet bill worth£££££££ and the season being over before it has started

1000% agree with last statement my was when the dog was on the quaryy arse

thats a main factor if he is on its ass then he smashes into the bushes if the rabbit has a bit of a lead as i said he tends to slow down before entering some good advice fellas not too sure about shock collar im not a fan i prefer old fashion methods positive reinforcement etc but im a begginer so all advice welcome

you dont do it when the dog is up the bunys arse that would be stuppid you only do it when ther is a bit of a gap when the buny enters the cover then the dog trys to thats when you do it theas coller work fore a veriaty of thing if you have tride every thing befour hand and nothing is working thats when you try the collers may be i didnt explain my self corectly be four

sorry mate i should have gone a bit more in depth about that im not against collers i was cosidering using 1 for 1 of my terriers but my lurcher is a bit funny he is an ex rescue dog the people i had him off treated him very badly and all it takes is for 1 thing to scare him or disstess him and he weary all day

it ok pall i have one with a power levle on it ive only used mine on 3 mark i have tride it on my self its more of a tingle on that power seting its all about shit what happend then wher did that come from best go back to who i no and wher i an safe when you shock the dog but yes you do have to be very careful [bANNED TEXT] useing one you dont wont f*****g idiots with them shocking the dog willy nilly a lad i no kept coming four mine but i wouldnt lend it him he said his dog was wineing in the car so he wontad to shock the dog i told him ton fek of he is a f*****g idiot

i totaly agree i wouldnt like to shock the dog for sake of it i didnt know they had various settings i think ill have a look on net and do some research on them but from what ive gaterd from this post its not just my dog so as long as he learns when to hit cover and when not i dont think its going to be a problem tbh thanks for info

[whin 463]

i want a dog to hit cover at times but a good dog learns when to go in and when qaurry is gone diffence between good dogs and brain dead , take him in daylite let him hit cover call him back or get terrier to go in small patch let dog wait for blt heel soon find whats easies i use my collie type for woods and saluk for a bolt al depoends what you are up to had alot of game in woods cover , if you dogs out all the time and bred [bANNED TEXT] they learn when to go

[Tyla 3,179]

my main concern was injury but he does tend to slow down as he enters cover but still risky i know, think ill jus have to do some more work in training as i said he still a young dog so has alot to learn only started this summer introducing him to lamp ready for season start

get a shock coller mate from packdog.com this will sort yore problem out

 

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[trinder 127]

my main concern was injury but he does tend to slow down as he enters cover but still risky i know, think ill jus have to do some more work in training as i said he still a young dog so has alot to learn only started this summer introducing him to lamp ready for season start

get a shock coller mate from packdog.com this will sort yore problem out

 

Crap

Whats crap fella

[rocky1 942]

WHY THATS A GOOD THING 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 THE QUARRY WILL COME BACK OUT ,I LIKE A DOG 2 SMASH THE COVER ,MITE BEEN MORE INJURYS BUT CATCH RATE WILL RISE

 

had plenty dogs hit the cover over the years not quite sure your stats are right there mate but yes sometimes they do come back out,i always just keep lamp on and more often than not mine have caught in the cover itself,been lucky or rather my dogs have been never had a problem to date but yes have heard of the odd accident over the years,do i personaly see a dog hitting cover as a problem,no not really and fecked if id know how to stop it even if i wanted to,trick is really to know the land your hunting and what the hedgerows are holding in terms of posts and fencing for example although obviously the odd branch or stump could also give the dog some bad news,as you said yourself i do like to see a dog crashing in but would not see it as the be all and end all,if the lads dog is hunting up in cover then obviously its lamp straight off and recall needs enforcing before letting it loose again im guessing

WELL FOR STARTERS MY STAT MIGHT NOT BE 100% BUT THE QUARRY COMES OUT MORE TIMES THEN NOT ,THAT WHAT SHOULD,NT OF SAID ,BUT YOU BUT THE PRESSURE ON THE QUARRY IT MAKES THEM DO ALL SORTS OF THING THEY WOULD,NT DO IF THE DOG NEVER HIT THE COVER ,AND YES AGREE ITS NOT THE BE ALL OF END ALL ,SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY THE DOG SHOULD BE FAST ENOUGH 2 GET IT BEFORE THE DOG HITS THE COVER ,BUT I KNOW THATS NOT ALLWAYS THE CASE ,I JUST THINK THE SUCCESS RATE IS HIGHER MIGHT NOT BE BY MUCH BUT IT IS

[Tyla 3,179]

my main concern was injury but he does tend to slow down as he enters cover but still risky i know, think ill jus have to do some more work in training as i said he still a young dog so has alot to learn only started this summer introducing him to lamp ready for season start

get a shock coller mate from packdog.com this will sort yore problem out

 

Crap

Whats crap fella

 

Using shock collars because people cant be f****d / dont know how to train their dogs. Its ok as a last resort but they're no magic wand ffs

[the big chief 3,099]

my main concern was injury but he does tend to slow down as he enters cover but still risky i know, think ill jus have to do some more work in training as i said he still a young dog so has alot to learn only started this summer introducing him to lamp ready for season start

get a shock coller mate from packdog.com this will sort yore problem out

 

Crap

Whats crap fella

 

Using shock collars because people cant be f****d / dont know how to train their dogs. Its ok as a last resort but they're no magic wand ffs

i no how to train mydog and they are traind you f*****g moron dont make judgements when you dont no me or my dogs and it was a last resort it was that or get rid just becuase you dont agre with them ther is no need to air your views like that yes there are idiots with them butt i am not one of them

[foxy bingo 42]

my main concern was injury but he does tend to slow down as he enters cover but still risky i know, think ill jus have to do some more work in training as i said he still a young dog so has alot to learn only started this summer introducing him to lamp ready for season start

get a shock coller mate from packdog.com this will sort yore problem out

 

Crap

Whats crap fella

 

Using shock collars because people cant be f****d / dont know how to train their dogs. Its ok as a last resort but they're no magic wand ffs

i no how to train mydog and they are traind you f*****g moron dont make judgements when you dont no me or my dogs and it was a last resort it was that or get rid just becuase you dont agre with them ther is no need to air your views like that yes there are idiots with them butt i am not one of them

 

you sound like a tool,its all collars with you.idiot

[trinder 127]

i started this topic to learn as im a begginer and as with most topics people have to voice thier own opinions and start bitching at eachother unless u got summit usefull to say dont bother saying anything im not being funny i just cant be botherd to read school girl shit

[the big chief 3,099]

my main concern was injury but he does tend to slow down as he enters cover but still risky i know, think ill jus have to do some more work in training as i said he still a young dog so has alot to learn only started this summer introducing him to lamp ready for season start

get a shock coller mate from packdog.com this will sort yore problem out

 

Crap

Whats crap fella

 

Using shock collars because people cant be f****d / dont know how to train their dogs. Its ok as a last resort but they're no magic wand ffs

i no how to train mydog and they are traind you f*****g moron dont make judgements when you dont no me or my dogs and it was a last resort it was that or get rid just becuase you dont agre with them ther is no need to air your views like that yes there are idiots with them butt i am not one of them

 

you sound like a tool,its all collars with you.idiot

are you just looking four an argument you are calling me an idiot then on the dave platts thread you are calling my dog ugly what the hell is wrong with you

[reality 6]

my main concern was injury but he does tend to slow down as he enters cover but still risky i know, think ill jus have to do some more work in training as i said he still a young dog so has alot to learn only started this summer introducing him to lamp ready for season start

get a shock coller mate from packdog.com this will sort yore problem out

 

Crap

Whats crap fella

 

Using shock collars because people cant be f****d / dont know how to train their dogs. Its ok as a last resort but they're no magic wand ffs

i no how to train mydog and they are traind you f*****g moron dont make judgements when you dont no me or my dogs and it was a last resort it was that or get rid just becuase you dont agre with them ther is no need to air your views like that yes there are idiots with them butt i am not one of them

 

you sound like a tool,its all collars with you.idiot

are you just looking four an argument you are calling me an idiot then on the dave platts thread you are calling my dog ugly what the hell is wrong with you

your the biggest idiot on here .you aint got a clue ffs

[trinder 127]

went out tonight and he didnt go into cover once typical lol had some good runs and had a rabbit cracking course it was too very pleased with him wouldve had another if it wasnt for my brother in law trying to volley the rabbit falling on his ass and dog tumbling over him never mind though always next time