Looking for rimmie, Magtech any good?

[walshy0988 28]

My mate has a sako finnfire for sale there more quality than cheap give us a pm if your interested

Walshy

[trooperman 73]

hi buy the best you can afford simple, any semi is not going to be acurate the act of it cycling another round see's to that and any one who tells you they are as accurate as a bolt is full of what makes the garden grow, i read all the time people who say CZ's are crap because of their triggers BOLLOCKS and you dont have to buy a new trigger unit to make it shoot, if you have a reasonable amount of sence you can do the standard trigger your self, quick lesson knock out the pins put the blade to one side take the trigger spring and grind of 4 coils this alone takes the trigger from nearly 4 lb to 1 lb get a good file engineers is best and just lightly dress the sear check all the time by offering up the trigger blade my standard CZ trigger now breaks at 12 oz yes standard trigger 12 oz so all you CZ bullshitters get your facts right and on the accuracy part all CZ barrels are cold hammer forged no drawn and heated like most others at the club i belong to i had a bet with a member who shoots a specialised match 54 we shoot ten shots over 50 and 100 metres and he got the arshole because he's 1600 pound anshits could not out shoot my CZ 452 that cost me 345 quid and every week i see him i let him know and oh yea it also out shoots bill thomsons hw 60 the original post was is a magtech semi any good many people will say no many will say yes if you buy take a bit of time to go over it and just tidy any bits that look like they could do with a fettle also get some singer sewing machine oil and smuther the bolt in it and cycle it manualy this will help a huge amount then have fun with it to many people say you have to have this or you have to have that just remember one thing most countries have not been making guns longer than the English or the russians/chechs and are still making guns to this day they should tell you some thing but some people still have a fixation with a posh name and as we all know a posh name does not always mean QUALITY. and do you realy want to be the chump who pays 3 times more for some thing that is no better than some thing that cost a 3rd less and is just as competent.

 

paul

[JonathanKent 16]

Sorry Paul, but if you read back no-one was slagging off CZ's. Nor was anyone saying that they were not accurate, all I said was that it wasn't the gun for me, that's all.

 

I also said that the original poster has a Weihrauch which from his previous posts he is very pleased with in 17HMR, therefore if he is made up with the 17HMR it would seem to make sense to buy one in 22. As they will have the same trigger break, stock set up etc, we all know the more consistent we are the better we shoot and this goes for kit too.

 

As I have said before I had a CZ and I didn't get on with it, that is my oppinion, it doesn't mean that they are not good guns or very accurate. But we all have our likes and dislikes. If you've got something you like stick with it, and that is my advise to the op.

 

I would also say that because someone descides to buy a more expensive rifle or scope or whatever that does not make them a 'chump' they are buying what they want. Shooting is after all a hobby for most of us and if you can't spunk some cash on what you love doing there is not much point in going to work to earn it in the first place..

 

 

ATB

Jonno

[The Duncan 802]

Quick update chaps!

Got a great deal on a virtually unused CZ511 - yes, a semi auto!

Not to Jonno's taste I know, but hellishly good fun and it cycles RWS subs as fast as you can pull the safe 'n sensible trigger.

Ok, accuracy-wise bunnies are readily do-able out to 60 ish yards and groups about an inch there when I do my job right. 40 yards its bullet on bullet.

My old 452 varmint would group at 60 yards like this does at 40, but I like the speed at which a second shot is available.

Anyway, beyond 60 yards, I'll be using the hmr so longer range accuracy just isn't really an issue for me.

Also, as the purpose of this rimmie is to be knocking about barns and the farmyard and for lamping, the fact that it came at a bargain price means I won't be crying if/when I scratch it or drop it etc.

 

Got my first bunny with it this eve. Leant against a gate, I slipped as I pulled the trigger (bunny at 40 yards) and missed so the rabbit bolted. It paused at 50 yards for a second; long enough for me to correct my error .

Couldn't have done that with a bolt action!

Downside with a semi, is plinking. When punching paper, the temptation to let rip can be overwhelming! You don't really need to shoot your initials onto the target card, a pen would be cheaper

 

Duncan.

[HUnter_zero 58]

original post was is a magtech semi any good many people will say no many will say yes if you buy take a bit of time to go over it and just tidy any bits that look like they could do with a fettle also get some singer sewing machine oil and smuther the bolt in it and cycle it manualy this will help a huge amount then have fun with it

paul

 

Paul, as much as I totally agree with what you are saying, one thing I would add is that you can not make a silk purse out of a sows ear no matter how hard you try.

 

John

[Deker 3,478]

I see where your coming from on the cost issue, having said that why not save up for a few weeks/months and get what you truely want. Speaking from experience there is nothing worse than picking the gun out of the cabinet and being dissapointed with it especially if you love the other rimmy you use all the time.

 

Don't get me wrong we all have a budget but the difference between a second hand cz and a second hand Weihrauch to match your 17HMR is going to be maybe £200-£300 so why not just wait and get what you actually want rather than rushing in and and regretting it afterwards.

 

I know everyone rates their CZ's but for me they dont come close to the likes of Anschutz, Sako or Weihrauch. Trust be if you buy a CZ your going to miss the lovely trigger on your Weihrauch!!

 

ATB

Jonno

 

In what respect, not as accurate, not as reliable?

 

Some rifles MAY look prettier, but pretty doesn't stop things, there is plenty of trigger work you can do on a CZ for next to no money if you need to. Does the quality of the wood make it shoot better...NO!

 

So ........... they dont come close to the likes of Anschutz, Sako or Weihrauch,..............

 

Just what does that mean, they cost a load more and look prettier (not the Weihrauch ), because they certainly DON'T shoot any better for field work, and just what more do you want of a rifle?

Edited October 1, 2011 by Deker

[andy s410c 61]

hi buy the best you can afford simple, any semi is not going to be acurate the act of it cycling another round see's to that and any one who tells you they are as accurate as a bolt is full of what makes the garden grow, i read all the time people who say CZ's are crap because of their triggers BOLLOCKS and you dont have to buy a new trigger unit to make it shoot, if you have a reasonable amount of sence you can do the standard trigger your self, quick lesson knock out the pins put the blade to one side take the trigger spring and grind of 4 coils this alone takes the trigger from nearly 4 lb to 1 lb get a good file engineers is best and just lightly dress the sear check all the time by offering up the trigger blade my standard CZ trigger now breaks at 12 oz yes standard trigger 12 oz so all you CZ bullshitters get your facts right and on the accuracy part all CZ barrels are cold hammer forged no drawn and heated like most others at the club i belong to i had a bet with a member who shoots a specialised match 54 we shoot ten shots over 50 and 100 metres and he got the arshole because he's 1600 pound anshits could not out shoot my CZ 452 that cost me 345 quid and every week i see him i let him know and oh yea it also out shoots bill thomsons hw 60 the original post was is a magtech semi any good many people will say no many will say yes if you buy take a bit of time to go over it and just tidy any bits that look like they could do with a fettle also get some singer sewing machine oil and smuther the bolt in it and cycle it manualy this will help a huge amount then have fun with it to many people say you have to have this or you have to have that just remember one thing most countries have not been making guns longer than the English or the russians/chechs and are still making guns to this day they should tell you some thing but some people still have a fixation with a posh name and as we all know a posh name does not always mean QUALITY. and do you realy want to be the chump who pays 3 times more for some thing that is no better than some thing that cost a 3rd less and is just as competent.

 

paul

Totally agree with you & Deker on this...nowt wrong with the trusty CZ.Sort the trigger,away you go.What your paying for with these top end rimmies is a nice looking piece of wood(god forbid putting it on a wall,post)& a adjustable trigger,oh & the name...I would like to take someone out with me just to see how my lowly CZ performs against the Premier League rimfire stars :hmm:

[JonathanKent 16]

You pay your money you take your choice. I wasn't saying CZ's weren't any good read the rest of the thread. What I said was I had one and it wasn't for me, we all have our likes and dislikes.

 

If you take the time to read the thread form the begining what I said was the OP has a Weihrauch in .17HMR which he likes very much and if you have one you like and get on with it why not buy the same in .22?

 

I also did not say I didnt like semi-autos. If there was a semi-auto which was as accurate and as reliable as a bolt action I would be first in the que! I had a ruger 10/22 and I loved the second follow up shot, when it worked! I kept it fastidiously clean and even then the number of times I pulled the trigger and nothing happened! That is why I off'd it.

 

I know CZ's are accurate rifles and that there are loads of people that love them. I also know that the ford focus is a good car and there are loads of people that love them, that doesnt mean we all want to, or should drive one!

 

Its all about personal choice, the OP chose to buy a Weihrauch in .17HMR, therefore logically it makes sense that he would also like one in .22. If we all chose to buy the same rifle there would only be one rifle manufacturer out there.

 

ATB

Jonno

Edited October 1, 2011 by JonathanKent