riohog 5,721 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_(biology) Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Its well proven that when you breed two types of sight hound together, the offspring are more intelligent and have better constitution than either parent, hybrid vigour Quote Link to post
j1985 1,984 Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Why when two unrelated lines of gamedogs are purposely put together (battle cross) are the offspring usually better than either parent ? Wouldn't that be hybrid vigour...people wouldn't do these things over and over if there was no truth to it. If it's not hybrid vigour what is it ? Quote Link to post
riohog 5,721 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Why when two unrelated lines of gamedogs are purposely put together (battle cross) are the offspring usually better than either parent ? Wouldn't that be hybrid vigour...people wouldn't do these things over and over if there was no truth to it. If it's not hybrid vigour what is it ? clever breeding call it what you like if it works Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 what about the ligers (lion x tiger) they are both feline but the offspring cant breed(i think)but they grow much bigger than either parent and that is classed as hybrid vigour That's almost certainly about the interaction of genes that determine growth. If I remember correctly a Liger is a male Lion and female Tiger cross and the genes that restrict growth exist either only in the female Lion and/or male Tiger, therefore the resulting offspring are unable to inherit it. 1 Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,301 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 what about the ligers (lion x tiger) they are both feline but the offspring cant breed(i think)but they grow much bigger than either parent and that is classed as hybrid vigour That's almost certainly about the interaction of genes that determine growth. If I remember correctly a Liger is a male Lion and female Tiger cross and the genes that restrict growth exist either only in the female Lion and/or male Tiger, therefore the resulting offspring are unable to inherit it. nice 1 ye learn something new everyday Quote Link to post
j1985 1,984 Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 The other way round is called a tigion!! And they are much smaller than both lion and tiger. Why I know this Im not sure lol Quote Link to post
whip x grey 276 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 greyhoud 75lb ,,,and 32lb whippet,,,,,breed toghter---- produce a 20lb whip /grey,,,,,would that be a hybrid ???? Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 greyhoud 75lb ,,,and 32lb whippet,,,,,breed toghter---- produce a 20lb whip /grey,,,,,would that be a hybrid ???? No, that would be a fxck up Quote Link to post
fcuktheban 140 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 greyhoud 75lb ,,,and 32lb whippet,,,,,breed toghter---- produce a 20lb whip /grey,,,,,would that be a hybrid ???? No, that would be a fxck up Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,127 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 greyhoud 75lb ,,,and 32lb whippet,,,,,breed toghter---- produce a 20lb whip /grey,,,,,would that be a hybrid ???? Back in the late 60's,early 70's when Whippet/Greyhound 1st X's were becoming popular in the North East racing scene, the 1st X's were allways faster than the 2nd X's, (whippet/grey x whippet/grey), this was put down to "hybrid vigour" in the 1st X, which ws lost in the 2nd X's. Cheers. Quote Link to post
fcuktheban 140 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 The more difference their is in the gentic makeup of the animals the more chances of having different outcomes their are. Someone would really need to know the ins and out of genetics to make full use of what they have... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-muscled_cattle Quote Link to post
whip x grey 276 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 now question ,,,on an other note ,,,as above if 75lb greyhound x 32lb whippet ,,,,produced a 40lb whip/grey and turn out better than both parents surley is a hybrid then if not ?? then in the making,,and went on to breed to similar breedings,,off whip/greys,,,best to best,,,,,surely they are hybrids,,,,breed,,,best to best over the decades,,same breed but ,,,then where does best lurcher to best lurcher stand??? me i would say there hybrids in there own right,,,,if proven Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 some of the best examples of hybrid vigour would be in humans Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,127 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 now question ,,,on an other note ,,,as above if 75lb greyhound x 32lb whippet ,,,,produced a 40lb whip/grey and turn out better than both parents surley is a hybrid then if not ?? then in the making,,and went on to breed to similar breedings,,off whip/greys,,,best to best,,,,,surely they are hybrids,,,,breed,,,best to best over the decades,,same breed but ,,,then where does best lurcher to best lurcher stand??? me i would say there hybrids in there own right,,,,if proven I would say yes, they are "hybrids"; just as the coursing dogs now are considered "hybrid saluki/greyhounds"; but I think the "hybrid vigour" is only present in the 1st crosses. Cheers. Quote Link to post
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