harvey d 43 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Sorry, don't understand half of the posts - I can't read them ! Okay, let me clarify what I mean - I believe the breed of the dog is more important than the Breeding of the dog - for example Joe Blogg's whippet/greyhound over Johns Smiths deerhound/greyhound can produce pups just as good as the more illustrious breeders. Of course you fellas who have paid hundreds of pounds for line bred dogs wouldn't want to agree with that. As for "pup" he was certainly no line bred, but a great worker, he would have give any "line bred" dog a run for it's money. How can some plonker who's never laid eyes on a dog determine how good he was ? You should of asked of the fashion the quarry was taken before you pass judgment, As for obedience, that was my fault not his. PS any dog catch a hare ? (let alone 5) get real, have some respect for the most demanding of quarry. All the best you all, thanks for reading. i thought you said he caught the hares at night Quote Link to post
6pack 60 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Sorry, don't understand half of the posts - I can't read them ! Okay, let me clarify what I mean - I believe the breed of the dog is more important than the Breeding of the dog - for example Joe Blogg's whippet/greyhound over Johns Smiths deerhound/greyhound can produce pups just as good as the more illustrious breeders. Of course you fellas who have paid hundreds of pounds for line bred dogs wouldn't want to agree with that. But that's quite contradictory in terms because a line bred dog will also be the breeding folks are looking for and have a known pedigree for generations to be able to exactly determine the breed and the breeding. Quote Link to post
WILF 47,217 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Sorry, don't understand half of the posts - I can't read them ! Okay, let me clarify what I mean - I believe the breed of the dog is more important than the Breeding of the dog - for example Joe Blogg's whippet/greyhound over Johns Smiths deerhound/greyhound can produce pups just as good as the more illustrious breeders. Of course you fellas who have paid hundreds of pounds for line bred dogs wouldn't want to agree with that. As for "pup" he was certainly no line bred, but a great worker, he would have give any "line bred" dog a run for it's money. How can some plonker who's never laid eyes on a dog determine how good he was ? You should of asked of the fashion the quarry was taken before you pass judgment, As for obedience, that was my fault not his. PS any dog catch a hare ? (let alone 5) get real, have some respect for the most demanding of quarry. All the best you all, thanks for reading. Am I the only person who dont have a clue what all this means?...........fair play, you liked your dog and held it in high esteem, you got some good memories and had some fun..........be happy mate I and many other lads will stick to giving ourselves a fighting chance......you on the other hand should go and put the lotto on if your that lucky!! 1 Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Sorry, don't understand half of the posts - I can't read them ! Okay, let me clarify what I mean - I believe the breed of the dog is more important than the Breeding of the dog - for example Joe Blogg's whippet/greyhound over Johns Smiths deerhound/greyhound can produce pups just as good as the more illustrious breeders. Of course you fellas who have paid hundreds of pounds for line bred dogs wouldn't want to agree with that. As for "pup" he was certainly no line bred, but a great worker, he would have give any "line bred" dog a run for it's money. How can some plonker who's never laid eyes on a dog determine how good he was ? You should of asked of the fashion the quarry was taken before you pass judgment, As for obedience, that was my fault not his. PS any dog catch a hare ? (let alone 5) get real, have some respect for the most demanding of quarry. All the best you all, thanks for reading. Like you say, it must all be nonsense Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 usain bolts mother an father aint runners thats some way to think aboot shit mate.... try thinking aboot it this way.... many brothers an sisters ye think mr bolt has???? ye think they all made the worlds fastest people ffs.... maybe if his parents were line bred they widda been many racehorses do ye know bred from donkeys at blackpool??? when was last time a kennel club registred show winning greyhound was a top track dog ???? Quote Link to post
leec 132 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 breeding is verything why waste your time with maybes, Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 many racehorses do ye know bred from donkeys at blackpool??? when was last time a kennel club registred show winning greyhound was a top track dog ???? a few i`ve backed could well have been ... 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,280 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Sorry, don't understand half of the posts - I can't read them ! Okay, let me clarify what I mean - I believe the breed of the dog is more important than the Breeding of the dog - for example Joe Blogg's whippet/greyhound over Johns Smiths deerhound/greyhound can produce pups just as good as the more illustrious breeders. Of course you fellas who have paid hundreds of pounds for line bred dogs wouldn't want to agree with that. As for "pup" he was certainly no line bred, but a great worker, he would have give any "line bred" dog a run for it's money. How can some plonker who's never laid eyes on a dog determine how good he was ? You should of asked of the fashion the quarry was taken before you pass judgment, As for obedience, that was my fault not his. PS any dog catch a hare ? (let alone 5) get real, have some respect for the most demanding of quarry. All the best you all, thanks for reading. Am I the only person who dont have a clue what all this means?...........fair play, you liked your dog and held it in high esteem, you got some good memories and had some fun..........be happy mate I and many other lads will stick to giving ourselves a fighting chance......you on the other hand should go and put the lotto on if your that lucky!! no mate your not the only one ,,, i wrote a reply but couldnt make my mind up if i had answered it properly lol Quote Link to post
pluto55 2 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 a collie over a greyhound or viaa vera,in the right hands will make just a good a dog as a gh collie over a gh collie proven over 3 generations.fact 1 Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Ok there's a lot of assumptions being made about the topic starters dog. How anyone can comment without having seen the dog in the flesh...well it's typical of this site. Anyways there's also a bit mischeif making on the part of Whin I would suggest. He wasn't that thougher when he lined his collie bitch with keano' old war horse Gripper. Granted the old fellah was the real deal but Whin only had Keano's word on that. To further compound things Whin threw his young dog over the bitch as Gripper was taking to long to do the deed. This dog hadn't been tested at the time. Just to add I bred keano's gripper. The dam was a half x put back to a track grey who had never seen a bunny. All the pups held back wedded to all game. Funny old thing genetics! Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Also you only have to look at greys and more so pitbulls to see line breeding/inbreeding will give a higher percentage of the genes you want to be passed down. I've never seen a pedigree for a Greyhound that was line bred. Could you post a link from www.greyhound-data.com of just one line bred greyhound?????? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) a collie over a greyhound or viaa vera,in the right hands will make just a good a dog as a gh collie over a gh collie proven over 3 generations.fact. Maybe, but a proven collie grey over another proven collie grey will more often throw a litter with less "wastage"I am not saying that you cannot get a great first generation half cross, but to maximise the chance of breeding a litter of good 'uns, you need to breed from proven stock on both sides. By line breeding proven lurchers, particularly from the same crosses, the more likely you are to end up with more offspring of the desired characteristics. JMO Edited September 14, 2011 by trenchfoot Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 usain bolts mother an father aint runners thats some way to think aboot shit mate.... try thinking aboot it this way.... many brothers an sisters ye think mr bolt has???? ye think they all made the worlds fastest people ffs.... maybe if his parents were line bred they widda been many racehorses do ye know bred from donkeys at blackpool??? when was last time a kennel club registred show winning greyhound was a top track dog ???? i think something like 13 olympic medallists came from the same village as him and linford christie and ben johnson were born near enough to there as well-definitely in the blood Quote Link to post
sighthound123 31 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 When is line breeding too close? i was led to believe that in breeding or "line breeding" means there is a higher risk of deformities in animals and humans... i know some breed father daughter or mother and son, is this not a bit "close" and you run the risk of having health defects i thought this was how KC dogs became so f**cked up? Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 If you bred like your life or bank account depended on it , I would imagine be allot less name chasin and papers wouldn't mean shit lol. Anyone who preachs to me about breeding I ask what have they done or produced? If they ever had a top racer or trial dog. If you follow the NGA breeding info here you'll see allot of top kennels rarley inbreed but look for the"nick" breedings and almost never breed away from the top 5 studs at the moment. Thats so the pups will sell ,i think if you breed greyhounds too close they will fight on the track .American dogs tend to be a lot less inbred than here or australia-and seem to be able to handle a lot more races in their career Quote Link to post
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