What's this "Line Bred" Nonsense ?

[tictac 218]

linebred still throws a fair amount of shit

[TOMO 26,067]

can i just ask the topic starter where his dog or dogs he has now have come from,,,presumerbly,, there all rescues,

[Malt 379]

Sounds like the best thing that ever came out of the Dock mate!

 

If I was ever looking to breed dogs to a decent standard, I'd be looking at working ability over big names any day..

[inan 841]

There seems to be this reoccurring notion that for a dog to be “top class” it has to have heritage i.e. come from top class “working lines” Let me tell you, that is first class Nonsense.

 

May I tell you about a pup I was given when I was 15 years old, it was given to me as the “runt of the litter” by a travelling chap from Waterloo site in Pembroke Dock. Its sire and dam? A couple of mangy looking lurchers from the site.

 

After a year of neglect (in terms of training) I started working him, the damn thing wouldn’t listen for no one (he never did). . But, over the coming few years this dog did some incredible things, including stopping 5 Hares in one night in amazing fashion. Catch two rabbits in the space of 20 seconds on the lamp, and stop an impressive roe buck in awesome circumstance - just a couple examples of many, many.

 

This dog was 27”tts, he would clear 6 feet with a grin, no idea (regretfully) of his cross, would guess at saluki, bull, collie, greyhound. He’d work for himself, sometimes with me, but rarely for me. . Many flaws in obedience (fault, my own) but a machine of a dog.

 

Line bred? Forget it; a lurcher is a mutt not a pedigree, but marvellous mutt at that.

 

R.I.P “Pup” a boys best friend.

I'm glad you had a dog that satisfied you, [ your description of its deeds sounds ok ,but nothing astounding TBH ], but if you don't know its genetic makeup you cannot forecast with any confidence what pups from it are likely to be like in terms of size .Best to the best is allways the way to go ,with the added caveat look and assess what qualities your own dog possesses and just as importantly,what it lacks and, find a dog that is strong where yours is weak.Two well bred animals do not guarantee pups from them will be stars, but it makes the probability a lot more likely.

One swallow does not a summer make.

[the_stig 6,614]

If you never knew the breeding how do you know it wasn't line bred ?

My guess is you got lucky,

my thoughts aswell

[bird 9,872]

any pup you pick form a litter can be shit, you need tons of luck.But line bred (worker to worker) proven dogs in the field, your in with a fighting chance.

[rocky1 942]

this all goes back how high 2 set your bar ,some people like the topic starter set the bar low and he happy with the dog ,some set the bar higher and some dogs don,t make their grade but could meet the next bloke grade 10 times over its all down 2 the owner ,i agree with wants be side by a few of yous you got 2 breed from worker 2 worker at all times regardless if ya don,t know the x aslong it works

[scothunter 12,609]

you only have to look back on racing dogs like.

"mick the miller"

"antartica"

"ballyreganbob"

 

and recent ones like rapid ranger an engish dog.you think that owner is gonna breed to shite?

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

for to get the best out of a pup you need it in your head that its already their (worker x worker)

[weasle 1,119]

I always thought line breed ment breeding related dogs together.

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

I always thought line breed ment breeding related dogs together.

thats what were talking about (worker x wanker ) related or not dont work

[weasle 1,119]

I always thought line breed ment breeding related dogs together.

thats what were talking about (worker x wanker ) related or not dont work

Now im really confused why would you cross a good worker with a wanker

[whin 463]

racing a bit diffent from hunting as pace is most of what you need in racing ,coursing huntin you need pace, feet, wind ,a hunting head ,a,bit trainability , a dog that goes up and down gears either there bred like that or get game sense with work ,the principles the best but with greyhounds you have one breed with lurchers maybe two or three along the line , to get something you want , say its harder at times when there more than one dog in the pot ,but people who say to me the best dog was the one they got out of a cat and dog home its a chance or a runt or a mistake , its a big chance if you want to further a line or a type

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

I always thought line breed ment breeding related dogs together.

thats what were talking about (worker x wanker ) related or not dont work

Now im really confused why would you cross a good worker with a wanker

i didnt say i would but the for sale section is probably full of them if you want to get one let us no how you get on

Edited September 14, 2011 by LAZYBSTARD

[Born Hunter 17,751]

I always thought line breed ment breeding related dogs together.

 

You're kinda right, line breeding and breeding worker to worker are not necessarily the same. Line breeding is keeping a gene pool tight by trying to breed within an extended family with ocassional outcrosses to other lines with similar desired traits to stop the gene pool becoming too inbred. Breeding worker to worker is a little less defined...

 

The advantage of line breeding is that the working ancestory of the line is proven, undesirable traits are removed and only the desirable ones are allowed to stay in the line. It's like a mixing pot, everytime you breed the next generation of the line some of those undesirable traits will appear and are taken out, only the pups with desirable traits are allowed to go back into the line/mixing pot. So eventually the pot will be as pure as possible! Thats the theory.

Edited September 14, 2011 by Born Hunter