weasle 1,119 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 To be honest i thinkits directly linked to running styles as much as anything, a slow half cross collie or,bull xis not going to get hurt as much as a real speed freak. Tbh i think that statement is entirely wrong mate...a dog is born with good constitution whether he,s fast or slow ...look at some of the fen dogs..like shit off a shovel but very hardy and robust...thats because they have been bred that way for donkey,s years with the bad traits bred out. you can rear a pup as well as you like but if he constitutionally unsound then there,s nothing you can do to put it there...sure you can help him along a little with fitness..good diet and such but nothing and i mean nothing is going to alter the way he was born ...jmo..atb stabba Dont really know much about them but that prob has a lot to do with the saluki blood,But i doubt all fen dogs have good constitution.A dog is born with its constitution but it would depend on whats in its breeding,Try and find a pure greyhound that can lamp 3 nights a week. Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 To be honest i thinkits directly linked to running styles as much as anything, a slow half cross collie or,bull xis not going to get hurt as much as a real speed freak. Tbh i think that statement is entirely wrong mate...a dog is born with good constitution whether he,s fast or slow ...look at some of the fen dogs..like shit off a shovel but very hardy and robust...thats because they have been bred that way for donkey,s years with the bad traits bred out. you can rear a pup as well as you like but if he constitutionally unsound then there,s nothing you can do to put it there...sure you can help him along a little with fitness..good diet and such but nothing and i mean nothing is going to alter the way he was born ...jmo..atb stabba Dont really know much about them but that prob has a lot to do with the saluki blood,But i doubt all fen dogs have good constitution.A dog is born with its constitution but it would depend on whats in its breeding,Try and find a pure greyhound that can lamp 3 nights a week. You probably wont find a greyhound that can do that mate...and heres why....coz they,ve been bred for speed only for hundreds of years ...not a sound constitution 1 Quote Link to post
richie198 28 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 To be honest i thinkits directly linked to running styles as much as anything, a slow half cross collie or,bull xis not going to get hurt as much as a real speed freak. Tbh i think that statement is entirely wrong mate...a dog is born with good constitution whether he,s fast or slow ...look at some of the fen dogs..like shit off a shovel but very hardy and robust...thats because they have been bred that way for donkey,s years with the bad traits bred out. you can rear a pup as well as you like but if he constitutionally unsound then there,s nothing you can do to put it there...sure you can help him along a little with fitness..good diet and such but nothing and i mean nothing is going to alter the way he was born ...jmo..atb stabba well i do not think his statement is wrong i think it is right its very obvious a slower dog wont get hurt as much as a quick dog.you also have to remember the fen dogs dont meet tree stumps or wire fences so a fast dog hit one of them it dont matter how much constitution they have they will get broke up Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Not something that gets mentioned all that often but in my opinion a very important make up in a lurcher. I am running two dogs at the moment, one(touch wood) seems to have the constituion of an ox and seems to run rough ground, take knocks and scrapes and still be bouncing in his run after a short rest. My bitch is in her prime and same as the dog gives her all on each run but is slightly more susceptable to injury and after a hard night looks like she needs more recovery time. Both dogs perform well to my standard and yet the only injuries between the two last season were a knocked toe and a couple of wire tears. Now some of this will be down to luck as anything can happen but is it also down to the constitution of the dogs? Is it an inherited trait, i think so????? Its in the genes to start with, then a bit of luck comes into it. Some are more prone to "Knocks" , others seem to take it in their stride.in my humble opinion B Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) To be honest i thinkits directly linked to running styles as much as anything, a slow half cross collie or,bull xis not going to get hurt as much as a real speed freak. Tbh i think that statement is entirely wrong mate...a dog is born with good constitution whether he,s fast or slow ...look at some of the fen dogs..like shit off a shovel but very hardy and robust...thats because they have been bred that way for donkey,s years with the bad traits bred out. you can rear a pup as well as you like but if he constitutionally unsound then there,s nothing you can do to put it there...sure you can help him along a little with fitness..good diet and such but nothing and i mean nothing is going to alter the way he was born ...jmo..atb stabba Dont really know much about them but that prob has a lot to do with the saluki blood,But i doubt all fen dogs have good constitution.A dog is born with its constitution but it would depend on whats in its breeding,Try and find a pure greyhound that can lamp 3 nights a week. You probably wont find a greyhound that can do that mate...and heres why....coz they,ve been bred for speed only for hundreds of years ...not a sound constitution The faster you run the more strain you put on your body even if you have a good constitution your going to get hurt and run up very light,after a good night.Ihave a bitch here will lamp 5 nights a week if you want her to,but she only catches on the mistakes at the hedges.Slow =safe Edited to say boreing as well as safe. Edited September 10, 2011 by weasle Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 very interesting topic,imo it must be inherited,some breeds are just more robust than others. Quote Link to post
6pack 60 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 There has been studies comparing injuries between dogs ran and walked solo to those in groups. They showed dogs that ran with other dogs from an early age were less likely to injury than those exercised alone. Not an exact science I would have thought, but a big difference. Quote Link to post
richie198 28 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 There has been studies comparing injuries between dogs ran and walked solo to those in groups. They showed dogs that ran with other dogs from an early age were less likely to injury than those exercised alone. Not an exact science I would have thought, but a big difference. maybe because dogs ran with others know that they dont have to put their all in from the start what means each dog running will take a short time giving its all witch means the front running dog will be less likely to hurt its self with the front running time it has Quote Link to post
frankel 2,123 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 i had my bitch out lamping 4 nights in a row last week, then she had a few days off and had a hard night down the dales then the morning i got home had a few hours kip and went and retrieved 2 "big" rabbits.. and i guarantee she would put 100% in everytime... Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hmm,, good topic I had a collie 1/2 cross,,,, hard as nails,, fell 30 ft down a resevoir outlet channel into a dry rock pool,, went down on a rope to get him,, hauled him back up, and when I threw him up onto the flat ground he upped and chased a rabbit,, caught it,, then went to the vet to get 2 bones removed from his foot,,, very tough dog,, Again,, seen dogs that trip and die, every second outing,, Lot to be said for a tough constitution,, maybe even at the expence of a bit of speed ???? maybe !! 1 Quote Link to post
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