Strength in pure collie???

[forest of dean redneck 11,722]

seen a old fella in town walking a pet collie that looked very similar to this

http://www.farmcollie.org/links/

 

anyone had a dog off a working version x running dog?

[Bosun11 537]

You can never underesimate a good collie, nor good collie blood. The right stuff can do just about anything! The key is though, finding the right blood and breeding the right stuff out of it, which IMO is a difficult task indeed..!

As for collie strength, the pure breds come in all shapes & sizes and some of 'em i'm sure will be strong as fecking oxes. I once owned a lump of a first cross, powerfull, very, with a huge head. All who seen it said it was one of those 'new' bull greyhounds, it wasn't. I knew its breeding and it was genuine but I could see where folk were coming from.

The only fault with it was its attitude with small dogs... It didn't think twice before tearing in, couldn't be trusted and became a liability... We parted company, the 'right' way.

[KittleRox 2,147]

seen a old fella in town walking a pet collie that looked very similar to this

http://www.farmcollie.org/links/

 

anyone had a dog off a working version x running dog?

I have a bitch here, sire pure working collie, dam half bull half greyhound, picked her up from a farm, sheep country so no doubts about the working side,

as for temperament she can be " a bit stange at times " lol, the wife calls her shifty, she will sit in the house and look at you out the corner of her eye with an almost evil sort of expression, when I leash her to take her a walk she insists walking out the front door and gate backwards

 

as far as working side this is her first proper season ( 18 months ) ferreting wise she is 100 % concentration, I wouldn,t like to ferret without a dog, half the time just watching the dog will tell you whats happening beneath your feet

 

daytime mooching, Too much stalking

 

and the lamping side, I didn,t really have her out much last season, maybe a dozen times and if I,m being honest I had doubts if she was going to be any good, some of them doubts put there by other folk ( she doesn,t look like a typical lurcher ) anyway took her out the other night, first time since March and all the doubts were forgotten, 5 bunnys out of a dozen runs, could,ve been 8 or 9 if she had connected properly, shes working them when they hit cover, lifting them out the seat and at full tilt, coming straight back when the beams flicked off and retrieving ALMOST straight back ( needs a refresher )

 

Not a dog for faster bigger stuff but suits me fine, would tackle teeth if so inclined ( has some attitude )

Overall I love the dug to bits and thats all that counts

 

Roxy

[forest of dean redneck 11,722]

is that the dog in your avater pic.

[KittleRox 2,147]

is that the dog in your avater pic.

No mate, thats my young whip

[ftm 3,357]

i owned a 1st cross collie greyhound that came from working farm in yorkshire the grey hound bitch was an irish bred bitch that had to be retired through a minor injury and 5 pups were born all collie coloured and all went to local lads here in north east,there was no wastage in this litter i can say with all honesty they were either 1st class rabbiting dogs or in my case fox deer dog,[pre ban] my dog glen was still doing teeth at the grand old age of 12 and would pull a fox from an earth with the same ease as any bull cross i was caught lamping one night by plod whilst dog was in full flight on charlies arse the coppers watched thecourse and even commented on how easy this dog dispatched charlie before sending me on my way with a "we wont bother you any more if thats all your after"

[skycat 6,173]

I once had mongrel collie: I say mongrel as she was found wandering the streets as a pup: but she looked like a small version of an old fashioned lassie collie, like before the show craze altered them, and with a bit less coat. Totally collie in her brains, and caught rabbits for fun: she was only about 22", but caught munties, killed foxes without batting an eyelid and was a very useful dog all round. I was very tempted to breed from her, but not knowing her breeding who's to say she wasn't a total one off and a mixture of who knows what!

[shepp 2,285]

a mate of mine has a hancock dog half collie its not much faster than a collie,its big heavy thing collie dog over greyhound bitch,ithink it would be better lining a collie bitch with the greyhound you seem to get better that way.

Is it true that Typp Ratcher puts Greyhound dogs over Border Collie bitches I told that by a few people how true it is I not know i.ve seen one of his dogs it was 19 inches tall

 

The mother of my bitch was from Typp Ratcher lines and was quite famous, she was 3/4 collie 1/4 grey. She stood about 19" and took over 100 big rabbits in her life time.

A good few watched her work and were astounded by her all round ability.

[shepp 2,285]

I once had mongrel collie: I say mongrel as she was found wandering the streets as a pup: but she looked like a small version of an old fashioned lassie collie, like before the show craze altered them, and with a bit less coat. Totally collie in her brains, and caught rabbits for fun: she was only about 22", but caught munties, killed foxes without batting an eyelid and was a very useful dog all round. I was very tempted to breed from her, but not knowing her breeding who's to say she wasn't a total one off and a mixture of who knows what!

 

Would it has really mattered if bred with a whippet or grey?

[forest of dean redneck 11,722]

I once had mongrel collie: I say mongrel as she was found wandering the streets as a pup: but she looked like a small version of an old fashioned lassie collie, like before the show craze altered them, and with a bit less coat. Totally collie in her brains, and caught rabbits for fun: she was only about 22", but caught munties, killed foxes without batting an eyelid and was a very useful dog all round. I was very tempted to breed from her, but not knowing her breeding who's to say she wasn't a total one off and a mixture of who knows what!

 

Would it has really mattered if bred with a whippet or grey?

yea as if breeding not known if there was already a small dog in it ,crossed with a whippet chances are increased for small dogs

[johnny boy68 11,726]

A collie that I owned.......he was some dog for a pure bred.

[Neal 1,873]

The thing with collies, as with all working pastoral/herding types, is the huge variation in type; both physically and mentally. When I lived in Cumbria I knew one farmer with tiny collies which looked more like whippets whereas one that lived in the village looked like a beardie on stilts. Some will face a lion while others can be scared of their own shadow.

 

But they're still possibly the greatest type of dog ever created.

[Blue one 89]

I was very tempted to breed from her, but not knowing her breeding who's to say she wasn't a total one off and a mixture of who knows what!

 

Hit the nail on the head their SC.

Not just any collie, the back ground on both sides of the parents, must be checked out.

[wuyang 513]

Just thought id post a couple of pics of the collies i used to work with, excuse the quality of the pics as i have taken digital photos of the old photos to get them uploaded.

 

This was the male, he was a good rabbiting dog, obviously not the speed of a lurcher, but good ferreting and lamping dog, quite fast and powerfull. Great stamina.

 

 

This was the bitch, she was a rescue collie that was just locked in a stable all day. The first time i took her out rabbiting with the other dogs she just put her nose down got a scent and the rest was history. She was most most natural hunting dog i have owned, not clingy like some collies, in fact she had the tendency to wonder off following her nose. Was the best bushing dog i have worked by far. She also lamped quite well being very agile.

 

 

Here on this bank the collies were eyeing up something that was coming a bit too close.

 

 

The male loved to guard.

 

 

Marking up.

 

 

Putting up a hare

 

 

The team...never caught massive bags, but had loads of fun.

 

 

One thing i have found with border collies and b.collie lurchers is that some when out hunting if there is not much scent about to keep them focused on hunting then they will find there own fun, by finding and bringing you a stick to throw. Wheres some are just out and out hunters although they love to fetch they will continue grafting for a scent. The male fell in the first category whers as the bitch was an out and out hunter.

[8shot 192]

a mate of mine has a hancock dog half collie its not much faster than a collie,its big heavy thing collie dog over greyhound bitch,ithink it would be better lining a collie bitch with the greyhound you seem to get better that way.

Is it true that Typp Ratcher puts Greyhound dogs over Border Collie bitches I told that by a few people how true it is I not know i.ve seen one of his dogs it was 19 inches tall

 

The mother of my bitch was from Typp Ratcher lines and was quite famous, she was 3/4 collie 1/4 grey. She stood about 19" and took over 100 big rabbits in her life time.

A good few watched her work and were astounded by her all round ability.

 

 

did it look abit like the one in my pic ??