scothunter 12,609 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 If some prick shoots your dog for no good reason then f*****g man up and sort him out rather than sneaking round like a coward burning straw and smashing stuff just walk over to an armed man and snooze him? thats not enough anyway imo shooting a dog for no good reason deserves worse than a beating. i think you would regret that, after the first year in a wee cell. could you look yourself in the mirror if you just walked away? or would you walk over and try and knock an armed man out? i doubt he is gonna shoot you blan.i can be very sneaky before i throw a dig lol Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 If some prick shoots your dog for no good reason then f*****g man up and sort him out rather than sneaking round like a coward burning straw and smashing stuff just walk over to an armed man and snooze him? thats not enough anyway imo shooting a dog for no good reason deserves worse than a beating. i think you would regret that, after the first year in a wee cell. could you look yourself in the mirror if you just walked away? or would you walk over and try and knock an armed man out? i doubt he is gonna shoot you blan.i can be very sneaky before i throw a dig lol lol dead men tell no lies mate,as far the police know you could of been running over shouting 'i've got a knife and i'm going to kill you',if the farmer says that's what happened that's what happened. Quote Link to post
woodbine 11 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 No farmer is going to risk his shotgun licence shooting a dog, they will have police snooping around and his gun/s will be taken from him until HE can prove 100% that he was within his rights to shoot the dog, all you would have to do is say you were stood close to your dog when he shot it and that you feared for your safety and he gets the book thrown at him. look at the several cases where farmers have fired to scare off thieves, who gets done.....the farmer! and look at the 1000s of cases were dogs that have been(and still do) get shot,who gets done...the dog What 1000s of cases I have never seen one. Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I never said we should flip anyone over, I wouldn't do it to my neighbour. If I had a apple tree in my garden and I didn't do anything with it, didn't harvest it and didn't bother looking after it, just the pear trees around it which made me money, would I be bothered it my neighbour reached over the fence and took some apples which I would have let fall to the ground. No I wouldn't. If he started cutting off branches then I would. Same thing, not doing any harm to something that just gets in the way anyway without touching the thing that I make money from. One farmer was telling me that they saw some coursers on his stubble, running a hare. So he tried to run them down even though they were leaving the land after being seen, he couldn't tell me the reason why, I said why put yourself up against the 3 guys and put yourself in conflict. He believed they were betting on the dogs. I think it's the fact that they do believe its their land and they don't want anyone on it. As a kid we could walk over land and not get any hassle nowadays farmers are more possesive. Just listen to farmers moaning about public footpaths, if it was upto them noone would come into the countryside except the close knit group of farmers. If people didn't carry on doing the 'illegal' things like hare coursing it will be lost forever and it will be pointless trying to overturn the ban. Actually lets all fall in line and keep the dogs as pets and go to work and come home and watch TV. Keep paying taxes in a country where you can't do what you love and wait to die. I quoted you because you were the last one in the thread not because i thought anything you had said was particular outrageous. Using your example of the apple tree I accept that that would not cause a problem to most reasonable people. And in most instances in that scenario if the neighbor had knocked on my door and asked if I minded them picking the apples I would say yes. But if I woke up in the middle of the night to find that my neighbor had driven a 4X4 through my fence to get at my apples the reception would be slightly different. Same applies for the footpaths, there are of course exceptions with farmers as with anyone and some will always be c**ts.. nature of humanity. But most of the beef with footpaths will be around people leaving gates open dropping litter and causing a nuisance rather then someone walking over the land on the bits they are allowed to be on. In what I was saying I wasnt saying it was OK for anyone to shoot a dog for no reason... obviously! And if my dogs ran into stubble field with nothing in it and got shot I would be fuming but the flip side of it is if my dogs took off after a sheep or grabbed hold of one that's a different matter. No one is saying anything about falling in line and not working dogs and am sure even the most 'holier then thou' on here jump a fence or two every now and then but there are ways about going about stuff that can make hunting without permission virtually acceptable in the eyes of the land owners. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest Josy Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. What a load of f*****g bollocks!!! Quote Link to post
Guest Josy Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. What a load of f*****g bollocks!!! Whats bollocks about it? do you condone shooting dogs for running game? because if you do your also scum If a dogs is worrying stock they have a case other than that they dont. Quote Link to post
SLiP tHe DoG ! 129 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. What a load of f*****g bollocks!!! shooting dogs for no real reason but trespassing is fking bollocks Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. What a load of f*****g bollocks!!! Whats bollocks about it? do you condone shooting dogs for running game? because if you do your also scum If a dogs is worrying stock they have a case other than that they dont. No i dont think shooting a dog for running game is right but if there worrying sheep then its your f*****g fault and not the dogs. Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,784 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. What a load of f*****g bollocks!!! Whats bollocks about it? do you condone shooting dogs for running game? because if you do your also scum If a dogs is worrying stock they have a case other than that they dont. No i dont think shooting a dog for running game is right but if there worrying sheep then its your f*****g fault and not the dogs. I should re-read his post lab because he didnt say anything about livestock and infact explicitly stated game... Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. What a load of f*****g bollocks!!! Whats bollocks about it? do you condone shooting dogs for running game? because if you do your also scum If a dogs is worrying stock they have a case other than that they dont. No i dont think shooting a dog for running game is right but if there worrying sheep then its your f*****g fault and not the dogs. I should re-read his post lab because he didnt say anything about livestock and infact explicitly stated game... Chasing game through fields of pregnant ewes can be just as much damage. Quote Link to post
Guest Josy Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Lab-tastic you should read posts properly before posting. No one mentioned running dogs threw fields of ewes your trying to justify putting your foot in your mouth Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,784 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 There is good and bad in every proffesion, dogs taking game for there owners unlawfully is not a death sentance any farmer, land owner, keeper etc etc who shoots dogs for this reason is scum. What a load of f*****g bollocks!!! Whats bollocks about it? do you condone shooting dogs for running game? because if you do your also scum If a dogs is worrying stock they have a case other than that they dont. No i dont think shooting a dog for running game is right but if there worrying sheep then its your f*****g fault and not the dogs. I should re-read his post lab because he didnt say anything about livestock and infact explicitly stated game... Chasing game through fields of pregnant ewes can be just as much damage. Very true, but thats classed as stock worrying and isnt a simple case of just taking game. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Lab-tastic you should read posts properly before posting. No one mentioned running dogs threw fields of ewes your trying to justify putting your foot in your mouth No i'm not i'm giving you scenarios.....you said any farmer that shoots a dog is scum?....Feel free to correct me where i've went wrong...... Quote Link to post
Guest Josy Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Lab-tastic you should read posts properly before posting. No one mentioned running dogs threw fields of ewes your trying to justify putting your foot in your mouth No i'm not i'm giving you scenarios.....you said any farmer that shoots a dog is scum?....Feel free to correct me where i've went wrong...... I think you will find I said "shooting dogs for running game are scum" You should learn to read Quote Link to post
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