lurcher330 2,301 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I have seen it happen once while out hare coursing one day a good bitch about to make a strike and bang she drooped and then this big horse of a man came running over and was willing to do the other two dogs that were still on the slip and after a heated argument and a lot off threads we left the land 'then we only ever went back once more but not for a hunt but i will say no more on that Quote Link to post
coney clucky 93 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 i know of a farmer who walked over fields to lads who were poaching and shot their dog which by the way was a good working lakeland terrier bitch the lads in question had heated exchange and blows were given to the farmer mind he gave some good shots back later the same night the lads returned and lets just say he never had so much smoked bacon in his life or roasted corn these lads still to this day spark his hay stacks and let his cattle roam free every winter but before you feel sorry for the farmer the same c**t was dun for shooting a staffordshire bull terrier three weeks before which had got of lead while being walked bytwo kids and his reason for shooting was it was messing corn up police did nowt kids left screaming if my dog was shot Quote Link to post
B.P.R 2,798 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Not worth the risk,,, being discussed just now over on stalking Directory,, Farmers can and do shoot dogs,, so do gamekeepers,, (not all,, don`t get carried away) TBH lots of farmers I deal with are f****n mental cases,, as in "a bit not there" retarded wouldn`t trust them with a catty never mind a gun 'a bit not there' only seen you with one farmer and if he would have carried on you would have made him 'a bit not there' I.E a bit on his arse Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 If it weren't for farmers/keepers. . . . .where the f**k would we all work our dogs? Tescos carpark? Get real, we need them, a lot more than they need us. Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Dogs and trespass In civil law a dog owner is liable if he or she deliberately sends a dog on to another person's land in pursuit of game. A civil offence is also committed if a dog owner allows a dog to roam at large in the knowledge that it is likely to kill game. No entry on the land by the owner of the dog is necessary in order for the proceedings to succeed. If a dog of its own accord enters land without permission but does no more, its owner is not liable under civil law for trespass; nor is it a criminal offence unless there is a contravention of regulations made under the Control of Dogs Order. Under civil law it is likely that the dog's owner would be liable for any damage which it is in the nature of a dog to commit. It is an offence for a dog to be at large, ie not on a lead or otherwise under close control, in a field of sheep. Sheep dogs and police dogs are exempted from this provision. The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 Under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 the owner and anyone else under whose control the dog is at the time will be guilty of an offence if it worries livestock on agricultural land. The dog must have been attacking or chasing livestock in such a way that it could reasonably be expected to cause injury or suffering or, in the case of females, abortion or the loss or diminution of their produce. An offence is not committed if at the time of the worrying the livestock were trespassing, the dog belonged to the owner of the land on which the trespassing livestock were and the person in charge of the dog did not cause the dog to attack the livestock. The definition of 'livestock' includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry. Game birds are not included. The Animals Act 1971 The definition of livestock in the 1971 Act is wider than in the 1953Act. Here it includes pheasants, partridges and grouse whilst in captivity. Quote Link to post
PoshPikey 560 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Why not just ask for permission - you wouldn't want people stomping round your back garden at night would you? Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 If it weren't for farmers/keepers. . . . .where the f**k would we all work our dogs? Tescos carpark? Get real, we need them, a lot more than they need us. i know of a farmer who walked over fields to lads who were poaching and shot their dog which by the way was a good working lakeland terrier bitch the lads in question had heated exchange and blows were given to the farmer mind he gave some good shots back later the same night the lads returned and lets just say he never had so much smoked bacon in his life or roasted corn these lads still to this day spark his hay stacks and let his cattle roam free every winter but before you feel sorry for the farmer the same c**t was dun for shooting a staffordshire bull terrier three weeks before which had got of lead while being walked bytwo kids and his reason for shooting was it was messing corn up police did nowt kids left screaming if my dog was shot sounds like he got what he deserved,maybe he'll think next time. Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Why not just ask for permission - you wouldn't want people stomping round your back garden at night would you? i dont keep hares in my back garden though lol 1 Quote Link to post
PoshPikey 560 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 no mate & the farmers wont either if f****n morons keep at it. Quote Link to post
long dogs 580 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 i hardly ever get boverd when im out day or night look after the land and the land will look after you 1 Quote Link to post
alan626 305 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 got a gun pointed at me and my dog 3 times last year but wit some nice words the farmers just say dont come back Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Why not just ask for permission - you wouldn't want people stomping round your back garden at night would you? Dogs don't know where the permission starts and ends when your out coursing .A course could go a right few fields thank god my dogs only last the first two fields lol Quote Link to post
PoshPikey 560 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 no of course the dog doesn't so why run something that could put you in that position - don't blame the dog - it didn't drive itself there did it? - man up Quote Link to post
Richie10 345 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Why not just ask for permission - you wouldn't want people stomping round your back garden at night would you? I don't get this about back garden, shooting people usually bang on about it. Are you telling me that farmers bought the land like I bought my back garden? Land was taken off the commoner and split into estates and which have been then handed down the family, they work the land and live on the land which was handed down. They can also lease out the land. They get tax breaks for growing food and on their tools, car etc, susbsidies and they are owners of land which they can then sell off to build on. They even get paid not to grow food on some fields. Now I have a garden and I grow some things there but I worked and paid for it and I don't get tax breaks at all. Farmers were given the land to work and look after for everyone, not to see as their back garden. If so we can only go to country parks, which we also pay for... Farmers are in a point of power, if they didn't want people on their land they should make it hard, ditches usually work of thick hedges, sorry they ripped most of them up to make more money. You won't find a poor farmer, they are just tight. 4 Quote Link to post
PoshPikey 560 Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 The landowner has the responsibility of the land that they own (however they got it orginally) and most try to look after it. your argument is just stupid Richie - you saying that if someone doesn't secure something then it is free reign to nick it? Without farmers you wouldn't have a hobby. Don't be bitter about money - life ain't fair but show some respect. Quote Link to post
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