Cocker from pet lines

[mediatix 0]

Please help me! A friend of mine wants to give me a cocker but the the puppy is not from a working line. It is this a big problem to transform him to a good gundog?

[FightTheBan 1,147]

I wouldn't bother.

Any cocker I have seen (KC show shite) has been a fanny licker.

 

Save your money and buy a well bred pup from working lines.

 

No doubt someone will come on and tell me a story about their show bred cocker being the best dog at their shoot...but I aint interested.

 

FTB

[Lab 10,979]

What do you want it for exactly. If its just to do a bit of beating with then getting it as a puppy i'm sure it could be trained to be a steady little dog. I wouldn't expect it to be no world beater(pardon the pun).....

[tinytiger 822]

show and working cockers-different as chalk and cheese

[mediatix 0]

Thanks you all for the replies! I will search for a cocker or springer from a working line!

 

Also, please can you tell me something more about Paul French Videos?

[FightTheBan 1,147]

What do you want it for exactly. If its just to do a bit of beating with then getting it as a puppy i'm sure it could be trained to be a steady little dog. I wouldn't expect it to be no world beater(pardon the pun).....

 

 

Im not being funny mate but most of these show lines are that far removed from the real deal they have almost no hunting instinct...whatsoever.

 

FTB

[Lab 10,979]

What do you want it for exactly. If its just to do a bit of beating with then getting it as a puppy i'm sure it could be trained to be a steady little dog. I wouldn't expect it to be no world beater(pardon the pun).....

 

 

Im not being funny mate but most of these show lines are that far removed from the real deal they have almost no hunting instinct...whatsoever.

 

FTB

I dont know cockers so al leave it there but i reckon most dogs trained from a pup will stick there nose in a bush when they smell something, maybe not.....

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Aye maybe, maybe not.

 

One things for sure if I'm going to spend a year, maybe 2 putting a heap of time, effort and expense into rearing and entering a dog it has to be bred the right way to increase the odds of gettiing a decent end product.

 

But people have different ways of doing things I suppose.

FTB

[Lab 10,979]

Aye maybe, maybe not.

 

One things for sure if I'm going to spend a year, maybe 2 putting a heap of time, effort and expense into rearing and entering a dog it has to be bred the right way to increase the odds of gettiing a decent end product.

 

But people have different ways of doing things I suppose.

FTB

Agree mate could work out to be a fecking waste of time..... but so could a pup out of good stuff mind....depends who's doing the training....

If the dog is to work at any decent standard then of course look for 2 decent working parents, not just how much red is in the paperwork....

[ftm 3,357]

have to agree with lab tastic on this one that" red" stuff on papers can be a waste of ink good working lines would be my choice as thats what i did with my little cocker [sadly died]

[TRF-JRs 6]

I've seen a show cocker trained to a good standard for the beating line. It's only fault was it squeaked when cast off but as for drive you couldn't fault it. Handled out to retrieves lovely too. If I had the choice I wouldn't go for one mind, as has already been said give yourself a helping hand and look for a dog from working lines. Atb!

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Aye maybe, maybe not.

 

One things for sure if I'm going to spend a year, maybe 2 putting a heap of time, effort and expense into rearing and entering a dog it has to be bred the right way to increase the odds of gettiing a decent end product.

 

But people have different ways of doing things I suppose.

FTB

Agree mate could work out to be a fecking waste of time..... but so could a pup out of good stuff mind....depends who's doing the training....

If the dog is to work at any decent standard then of course look for 2 decent working parents, not just how much red is in the paperwork....

 

 

Couldn't agree more.

Especially in spaniels. Most of them are all style and no substance.

Burnt out after one grouse drive.

 

FTB