zx10mike 137 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 hi guys n gals i built my dream rifle , a rem .17 fireball varmint new trigger leupold scope and sat it on an accuracy international stock.looks and shoots great.my problem is i miss my light weight anschutz and my dream rifle weighs a tonne.i bought the fireball so i could home load for better accuracy and this it has achieved.in order to shed weight i'm thinking of shooting it without a mod and i have put the original stock back on to try and get the best of both worlds.i never shot the rifle with the original stock on when i got it and now i have put it on i would say that my groups are bigger.i'm getting two or three bullets touching and its the flyers opening the groups up to 1 to 2".the barrell is not floated and its a synthetic stock.i should mention that when i put the stock on my rifle changed its zero by 1.4. in my head i'm thinking of getting busy with some sand paper and floating the barrell but on the net there are mixed reviews.have any of you done this and can offer advice.mr remington has not floated thr barrell for a reason i suspect?also what about bedding a rem anyone had results good or bad . cheers guys Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) hi guys n gals i built my dream rifle , a rem .17 fireball varmint new trigger leupold scope and sat it on an accuracy international stock.looks and shoots great.my problem is i miss my light weight anschutz and my dream rifle weighs a tonne.i bought the fireball so i could home load for better accuracy and this it has achieved.in order to shed weight i'm thinking of shooting it without a mod and i have put the original stock back on to try and get the best of both worlds.i never shot the rifle with the original stock on when i got it and now i have put it on i would say that my groups are bigger.i'm getting two or three bullets touching and its the flyers opening the groups up to 1 to 2".the barrell is not floated and its a synthetic stock.i should mention that when i put the stock on my rifle changed its zero by 1.4. in my head i'm thinking of getting busy with some sand paper and floating the barrell but on the net there are mixed reviews.have any of you done this and can offer advice.mr remington has not floated thr barrell for a reason i suspect?also what about bedding a rem anyone had results good or bad . cheers guys assuming its a sps Remington don't float the barrel cause the plastic stock dosent have enough strength in the area around the action to support the weight of the barrel properly especially if it has a mod fitted, think I would be looking at the jackson rifles website for a better stock one that can be bedded properly. Edited September 4, 2011 by danw Quote Link to post
coldweld 65 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Hi Mike What powder/bullets inc weights are you shooting ? i have a fireball in remington model 7 preditor with standard stock , and am getting better groups so might be able to help with my load. i also have a remington with a HS Precision stock that did not need bedding ( ali block) and shoots less than 1" groups with a weedy thin barrel. What length barrel are you useing as a cut might help lose som weight ? As 700's are a lot more common than the 7 a used stock should be easy to find that is very light like the HS ones with an ali frame and carbon/Kev mix, Quote Link to post
zx10mike 137 Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 cheers for the info chaps it is the sps and because i'm a wally and the stock is just sat there i had a play and free floated the barrel.sure enough the weight of the barrel ment it took a few attempts but its floated with the mod on.i'll keep you posted on how it shoots this week as soon as i can get out.i have lost nothing if it doesn't work it will go back on the ai stock.it has been giving great groups on the ai stock well under .50 using h322 and 25 v max.it also was doing well on 10x and 20 v max i wouldn't shorten the barrel as i was told a longer barrel is better for accuracy at longer ranges when i had a custom barrel fitted to the .204. Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 If you are shooting of a bipod it'll be worth checking you have removed enough material that the stock isn't bearing on the barrel once supported Quote Link to post
zx10mike 137 Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 have done i think i got away with it perhaps because its a smaller calibre with less recoil, i might be lucky and it might shoot well.i can still slide a tenner up to the breach mod on sat on a bi pod.thankyou for your help though i only tried it as i had nothing to lose .i would have thought twice if it was my only stock.you were correct though i had to check and remove more material. Quote Link to post
coldweld 65 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 The longer the barrel for better acccuracy works to a point, as with bullet speed it gets to a certain speed, and then it won't go any faster as max pressure has been acheived. Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 The sps stock is pure rubbish, and flex is always going to be an issue as is the action sitting level on the stock... my advice is to contact PSE composites and get them to build you a carbon fibre stock, really really lightweight and strong, Best of luck. Quote Link to post
zx10mike 137 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 The sps stock is pure rubbish, and flex is always going to be an issue as is the action sitting level on the stock... my advice is to contact PSE composites and get them to build you a carbon fibre stock, really really lightweight and strong, Best of luck. cheers pal will see how it shoots first if no good will do Quote Link to post
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