Doe kid & frame for apollo

[v-max 2]

Hello got a doe kid on monday night 112m saw 4 took the smallish kid.

 

Apollo here is pic of our frame in our chiller hope it help's you just ask if any question's.

 

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[martin 332]

Hi,is that the set up that you have in your cola fridge?very smart.I have just been given permission on a farm near me where there is a decent head of roe and muntjac,so I would like to get myself a deer calibre rifle with a view to taking a few deer per season.I understand that I would have to take a DSC1 weekend course in order to have deer put on my FAC.I really don't have any experience,although I do know a stalker and he is willing to take me out when he is next out.Can you tell me how involved is the course and should every person that goes on the course pass,if not,do you have to pay for another course in order to pass?I have found a course near me at Cirencester,and it is about £300.00. I also heard that you can have a recognised stalker put on your cert. to supervise you while you learn skills needed.I also was told by someone at Avalon Guns that a good rifle for deer/fox would be a 25.06 as this has a very flat trajectory,do you concur with this.I hope to hear from you soon......................Martin.

[scotrat 2]

Its always good to have someone take you under their wing whilst learning the skills of deer stalking.They will give you all the safety pointers thats involved in the practical part of the course.

The DSC 1 course CD is a must before going on the DSC course it gives you all the questions you might be asked for the exam.

Conditions on your FAC like only going out with a recognised stalker I have never heard that one before but in England its different from up here, I have heard of some silly conditions being placed on a FAC down there.

In Scotland it is not an essential part of the firearm application process to have your DSC prior to you applying for a deer calibre rifle.

As for the 25.06 each to their own when it comes to rifles you will always get people saying that one calibre is better than another.Personally for my first rifle I would go for the tried and trusted .243 and once you have gained your spurs start experimenting with different calibres.

Sorry for putting my tuppence worth in

[Boghossian 0]

I would vehemently oppose any attempts at putting conditions on your FAC. This is something the police just invented to make life difficult. If you have previous firearms experience (shotguns?) that should be underlined in a covering letter to your application.

Calibre - any legal deer round should be fine for roe and munties, but the .243 is one of the most popular rounds in the UK and the ammo is cheaper than most.

Best of luck!

[Sako.243 1]

Hi,is that the set up that you have in your cola fridge?very smart.I have just been given permission on a farm near me where there is a decent head of roe and muntjac,so I would like to get myself a deer calibre rifle with a view to taking a few deer per season.I understand that I would have to take a DSC1 weekend course in order to have deer put on my FAC.I really don't have any experience,although I do know a stalker and he is willing to take me out when he is next out.Can you tell me how involved is the course and should every person that goes on the course pass,if not,do you have to pay for another course in order to pass?I have found a course near me at Cirencester,and it is about £300.00. I also heard that you can have a recognised stalker put on your cert. to supervise you while you learn skills needed.I also was told by someone at Avalon Guns that a good rifle for deer/fox would be a 25.06 as this has a very flat trajectory,do you concur with this.I hope to hear from you soon......................Martin.

 

 

Martin, 25.06 is a great calibre as V-Max and his brother will tell you. But IMO I started with a 22.250 then jumped to a .308 and now have a .243 which i prefer as an all-rounder great calibre as the other guys said aswel.

 

Good luck and happy hunting

[martin 332]

Thanks for all your advice,and I apologise in advance if you think I hijacked your post V-Max.Which calibre rifle do you use?

[v-max 2]

Hello Martin i work a 25/06 & 22.250 which is in the 1 in the pic.I had a 243 for year's but wanted a change i would go with 243 for a start it's a great cal even on red's it's plenty punch & great homeloaded.As scotrat said the deer quest cd is a must i done my level1/2 for a bout £300 dont know much on cost's now.I have had 1 or 2 people under my wing & would help you if closer but glad to here someone will help you & i have a couple friend's that on a condition they must be accumpanyed till they have gained experiance to new FAC holder's.

[rifleshooter 0]

Martyn i have deer on my ticket and dont have dsc1 so where that came from i dont know i can use my 223 for roe deer in scotland and i have a 243 for roe and other deer in england and scotland , i also beleive that if you fail dsc1 you only need to retake the catagories that you fail on ,hopefuly will be takeing dsc1 myself this year in eskdalemuir

[martin 332]

Martyn i have deer on my ticket and dont have dsc1 so where that came from i dont know i can use my 223 for roe deer in scotland and i have a 243 for roe and other deer in england and scotland , i also beleive that if you fail dsc1 you only need to retake the catagories that you fail on ,hopefuly will be takeing dsc1 myself this year in eskdalemuir

 

Is it not law then,or is it one of those things the local old bill throw into the mix?

[mole trapper 1,693]

Martin are you under avon and somerset, just if you are i have heard they are trying it on at the moment, as said already if you have good reason and written permission etc they should give you a ticket, although you will almost deffinetly have to be taken on by someone experienced who will have to sign you off when they consider you profficient, which luckily you seem to have sorted. The only question remaining is calibre, well down here i think they are still saying new fac holders can only have .243, but to be honest i think if you had a good argument for a heavier calibre then you should probably be granted, but obviously no two cases are the same.

[rifleshooter 0]

Martyn i have deer on my ticket and dont have dsc1 so where that came from i dont know i can use my 223 for roe deer in scotland and i have a 243 for roe and other deer in england and scotland , i also beleive that if you fail dsc1 you only need to retake the catagories that you fail on ,hopefuly will be takeing dsc1 myself this year in eskdalemuir

 

Is it not law then,or is it one of those things the local old bill throw into the mix?

Martyn the only thing i had to do was get permision from one farmer to shoot deer and that was it deer were placed on my licence

[martin 332]

That's very interesting,I think I will get a letter from the farmer on my new permission,and see what the old bill say.

[J Darcy 5,871]

personally i would not specicfy what quarry you were to shoot. Leave your ticket as open as possible and they cannot refuse you "because" you havent the DSC1. that is not compulsory. it is simply a money making scheme for the BDS IMHO> good luck.

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

I also had deer stalking on my ticket before gaining level 1 & 2 .As long as you have permission to shoot deer it should be sufficient ...................... but I have thought for some time now that the police will start on insisting on level 1 before putting deer stalking on your ticket.

 

I strongly recommend you take the course as being a newcomer to stalking you will learn quite a lot.

 

You cant have enough knowledge.

 

Good luck with your choice of calibre but I recommend the .243 , great calibre with which I have taken all 6 species of deer.

 

Let us know how you get on ..................

[martin 332]

Thanks for everyones replies,I have had a chat with a chap on the BDS stand at the Westcountry Game fair,and he confirmed that it is not a legal requirement to do the dsc1.But,I did agree with him and yourself Foxhunter,that it would be a good idea (safety wise and overall knowledge wise)to take the dsc1.

I suppose I was loathe to cowtow to the police and their bully boy tactics,you know.....a slow erosion of our rights,and all that.

I do however take my shooting very seriously,and will take the dsc1,probably in September at Cirencester.Thanks again all of you.