scent 509 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 If they truly are show bred then yeah, shoot those turds in the head im on it right now pal ,i have the .22 loaded ,i never realised it til now but a man that digs coons must know what a proper terrier is .Advise taken pal Quote Link to post
mudd dog 128 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I know and have heard off lads over the years that have got terriers from the dog pound. after they were run on they worked like f..k. Far from nice looking dogs ! One was even called ''scruff''. Either way they worked so they didn't mind. Big deal Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I know and have heard off lads over the years that have got terriers from the dog pound. after they were run on they worked like f..k. Far from nice looking dogs ! One was even called ''scruff''. Either way they worked so they didn't mind. Big deal iv known the same pal ,lads that have terriers thrun together that work and how bad i say .But to make a satement that breed is for showing ,come on now Quote Link to post
mudd dog 128 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Im using my phone so i can't see any pics ! ......ATB.....MUDD Quote Link to post
Poacher Paul 11 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) your no fool scent most on here know that, But come on its the uk at some point the pat,lakey,boarder,beddy,bull to some degree, russle fells ect, its only the last 100 or so yr that type ment evenything cause a few bred too type for the fancy show ring, Come on most are after one thing a boy that will stay till dug and not move doing what he has to down there till we breck throw no matter what he is hes a TERRIER and doone his job he can look like a pooddle for all i care, your one of the last i thought would care about certain breeds breed the best to the best and you cant go far wrong with a alot of culls here and there, come on mate the liittle uns with big hearts Edited September 4, 2011 by Poacher Paul Quote Link to post
danny300 2,240 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 (edited) If they truly are show bred then yeah, shoot those turds in the head muppet ive a pure bred border and she works every time she is taken to a earth come over here and learn how to work a terrier before putting silly comments up Edited September 4, 2011 by danny300 2 Quote Link to post
Buch 145 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Im no expert but id argue the opposite. Breeds (especialy the hunting breeds) were bred for a reason. The reason jack russels look and act the way they do is because Reverend John Russell bred a line of dogs that suited his hunting needs. There named after him because he bred the line him self from his own dogs. Its he same with all dog breeds there bred to the specifications of the person who oridginaly bred the breed. The terrier men in the fells didnt breed the border terrier to be a show pony. they bred it to run with the hounds have a good coat and a good strong head ect. What ever you think of certain breeds or how they are bred these days doesnt mean the breed was not oridginaly bred for a certain purpose and that is why the breed is distinct from its other "types". Jack Russels are white so they could easly been seen in undergrowth by the hunts in the south. This wasnt needed up north so borders, pats ect arent white. If you dont want pups of a certain breed then you breed worker to worker, if you do want pups of a certain breed you breed within that breed, if you want a terrier to match your "specification" you breed from dogs which match that spec wether its worker to worker, or within the same breed. Doing any of those things doesnt make your terrier any less of a decent worker. That made sense in my head i hoe it makes sense on the internet. Quote Link to post
foxing machine 144 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 could you please put a picture of your pup up mate atb Quote Link to post
Mosby 355 Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Why I call it a white dog and not a jack russell is cause I'm sick and tired of people thinking every white working terrier is a jack russell. Jack Russell was how many years ago? How many strains of white dog have been before and after him? The pup looks like a jack russell but there are questions as to whether there is bull blood or ebt or rat or feist. I don't know what "breeds" are in the pup. I know there are working "types" as Kaw said in the blood. I've got black dogs here and some red ones and some black and tans. Most of mine aren't any "breed" they are types. Last I heard fells/patts were not a breed. Breeding a terrier a certain color so they can be "seen" is kind of funny in my opinion - unless you've got x-ray vision ha ha. Just messin. I know that it's nice to know where the tykes are when working. I work alot of above ground stuff and it can help when breaking through and telling the difference between the game and the dog. I think as working terrier enthusiasts we might want to start realizing what Kaw is talking about. I don't think the white dogs I've seen work can be attributed to Reverend Jack Russel. I've got a buddy who brought over a little white bitch that was 12 pounds with a border terrier head and short little legs. Wasn't a jack russell if you ask me. But she was one hell of a worker. That's what matters. I think the different types have different things to offer and it would be nice to have them segregated and named - especially white dogs. Reverend Russell wanted bayers for the hunt last I heard - so is a hard/mixer a russell? it ain't to the standard Russell was going for. Quote Link to post
Buch 145 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Buch, have copied most of your post as iv read that before off the net Pardon? If your saying i copied that of somewere then im happy and upset in equal measures. Happy because i must have written is so elequently, upset because you think i would so heniously plaugurise some one elses work. Ive got a confession to make i did plagurise one bit i forgot what the right Rvrd first name was so i looked on wikipedia and copied his name. If on the other hand your saying the words are my own but the content is "off the net" then you might possably be right there. Im 26 and unfortunatly i was no were near conception when these breeds were in there infancy. So other than reading books, listening to people who know and looknig "on the net" how else is one to garner enough infomation to come to a reasonable opinion? Mosby im not saying that breeding worker to working is bad, im saying you cant critisise some one for doin it. If that breed has every thing you want from a terrier then whats the problem. A jack russel can still be a jack russel with having the papaers to prove it ... cant it? Quote Link to post
just jack 998 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Buch, have copied most of your post as iv read that before off the net Pardon? If your saying i copied that of somewere then im happy and upset in equal measures. Happy because i must have written is so elequently, upset because you think i would so heniously plaugurise some one elses work. Ive got a confession to make i did plagurise one bit i forgot what the right Rvrd first name was so i looked on wikipedia and copied his name. If on the other hand your saying the words are my own but the content is "off the net" then you might possably be right there. Im 26 and unfortunatly i was no were near conception when these breeds were in there infancy. So other than reading books, listening to people who know and looknig "on the net" how else is one to garner enough infomation to come to a reasonable opinion? Mosby im not saying that breeding worker to working is bad, im saying you cant critisise some one for doin it. If that breed has every thing you want from a terrier then whats the problem. A jack russel can still be a jack russel with having the papaers to prove it ... cant it? Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 your no fool scent most on here know that, But come on its the uk at some point the pat,lakey,boarder,beddy,bull to some degree, russle fells ect, its only the last 100 or so yr that type ment evenything cause a few bred too type for the fancy show ring, Come on most are after one thing a boy that will stay till dug and not move doing what he has to down there till we breck throw no matter what he is hes a TERRIER and doone his job he can look like a pooddle for all i care, your one of the last i thought would care about certain breeds breed the best to the best and you cant go far wrong with a alot of culls here and there, come on mate the liittle uns with big hearts thats a fair post i suppose pal Quote Link to post
long dogs 580 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 "Breeds" are for showing- he got a hunting "type" wtf Quote Link to post
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