lanesra 3,994 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 your not reading it wrong Im GOB~SMACKED ..................... THE WELSH RFU what the F2CK WHERE YOU LOT PLAYING AT ALLOWING THIS TOO HAPPEN , SURELY THEY COULD OFF STOPPED THIS ON MORAL GROUND'S .... SUBCONSIOUSLY THIS REFEREE MADE A DESICION FAVOURIN HIS OWN COUNTRY , well who can PROVE THIS WASNT THE CASE ???????????????????? Where as a neutral ref in charge it could off been put down to GENUINE HUMAN ERROR ............. NOT NOW :censored: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ossie n Arch 1,682 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 your not reading it wrong Im GOB~SMACKED ..................... THE WELSH RFU what the F2CK WHERE YOU LOT PLAYING AT ALLOWING THIS TOO HAPPEN , SURELY THEY COULD OFF STOPPED THIS ON MORAL GROUND'S .... SUBCONSIOUSLY THIS REFEREE MADE A DESICION FAVOURIN HIS OWN COUNTRY , well who can PROVE THIS WASNT THE CASE ???????????????????? Where as a neutral ref in charge it could off been put down to GENUINE HUMAN ERROR ............. NOT NOW :censored: The ref wasn't French, his father is though. Alain Rolland is Irish, he's even played for Ireland, Scrum half i think. He can speak fluent French too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heart of wales 19 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Fact the referee Alan Rolaund was born to a French Father and is a fluent French speaker How the F"""""k did this come about Ask any player former or current should he have been sent off for making that tackle As for the team and the missed kicks nad chances well I am proud to say I am Welsh after playing Three Quarters of the game a man down and outplaying the other team,,brilliant,missed kicks one hit the post and one from the half way line,lets face it we wasnt meant to win it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ossie n Arch 1,682 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Iv'e just been reading about the same thing on another forum, according to them the ref didn't have a choice. The IRB told the refs to be strict on the spear/tip tackle before the World Cup began. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keeper 51 78 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) yes i agree something need to be done about the ref's not being allowed to ref a game where they may because of there nationality favor one team over another weather subconsciously or not this would also take away any suspicion from any WRONG decisions they made either in favor or by being to harsh against there own by trying to show how fair they were to the opposition team not rocket science and would benefit all the players the game and the refs allain rowland is paid by the french the fru Edited October 15, 2011 by keeper 51 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Iv'e just been reading about the same thing on another forum, according to them the ref didn't have a choice. The IRB told the refs to be strict on the spear/tip tackle before the World Cup began. but he didnt spear him .he picked him up yes .but he didnt spear him .the momentum took him of the floor and he was dumped but this happens in every game .to have speared him he had to drive him headfirst inthe ground .this never happened there was no intent in the tackle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keeper 51 78 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) this Irish ref ALAIN COLM PIERRE ROLLAND should have been used for the wales ireland game that way we would not have made it through to the french match but what would have happened then god only knows and whilst i accept that the refs had a directive to enforce the law on tip tackles severely they were also directed to make an objective assessment of the overall circumstances of the tackle hey even though i am welsh and bound to be bias i can honestly say that in my opinion there was not malice or intent by sam to do this player damage if you ever need to see this horrific type of tackle check out Brian o'driscoll being spear tackled in the 2005 lions tour of new zeland yellow card yes no problem the man was not injured had he have been injured even though it was in my opinion it was a genuine mistake had he then been red carded i would have no axe to grind to cover himself the ref could have used the t.m.o this would show no malice was intended he could also called in the two assistant refs the ref was a total fu*king gutless wan*er Edited October 15, 2011 by keeper 51 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heart of wales 19 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 He was that badly injured he was up on his feet in minutes,considering the time that had gone and without any incidents,in My opinion and Yes I am biast because Iam Welsh The referee should have taken that into account,a yellow card would have been harsh. Yellow card for Fabrice Estebanez for a dangerous tackle. France down to 14 men, but as the time slips away Tonga's World Cup hopes dwindle Says it all dont it talk about consistency Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ossie n Arch 1,682 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Here's the link, some guy on there seems to know the rule about Spear/Tip tackle really well. According to him, the IRB informed Referees to work from a Red card down for tackles when the legs of the tackled player go above his head during the tackle. Thats what happened when Warburton made the tackle. Didn't it ?? I think he was unlucky to be sent off, but the sending off wasn't the reasom Wales lost, it didn't help, but not the reason. Any one of the missed kicks going over and they would be in the final. You'll need to scroll down a bit to find it. http://www.ukhillwal.../t.php?n=478761 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Our missed kicks cost us, there's no doubt about that. I was confident when Hook was named at 10, but looking back the loss of Preistland in the form he was in was a big one. Never mind, a bronze placed play off against the Aussies to look forward too next friday morning, so it's not quite over. I just hope Wales can carry their momentum over into next years Six Nations, should make for an exiting tournament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Listening to a discussion on the radio about the sending off. Apparently, if a player get's another player into the air, it is that players responsibility to get him safely to the ground without dropping him or driving him into the ground. He was clearly dropped. The shit kicking by Wales is what lost them the game, not the sending off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Listening to a discussion on the radio about the sending off. Apparently, if a player get's another player into the air, it is that players responsibility to get him safely to the ground without dropping him or driving him into the ground. He was clearly dropped. The shit kicking by Wales is what lost them the game, not the sending off. John you are right, but if they went about applying the letter of the law to every tackle made in a game of rugby you'd be playing rugby 7's by the end of the first half! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 They should Malt! I think he's an excellent ref, it's the rest of them that f**k it up by not applying the rules of the game consistently so then here we are with a situation where people bitch about the ref giving the player at fault his medicine. I've no problem with any player getting the shove if he's doing what he shouldn't be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keeper 51 78 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Listening to a discussion on the radio about the sending off. Apparently, if a player get's another player into the air, it is that players responsibility to get him safely to the ground without dropping him or driving him into the ground. He was clearly dropped. The shit kicking by Wales is what lost them the game, not the sending off. that's very interesting it will be good to see this so from now on any player that takes another of his feet in a tackle and fails to lower him to the ground in a safe manner will be sent off well hears to a world cup of touch rugby :rofl: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keeper 51 78 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 irish my arse if his old man is french then he's french Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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