having trouble with zeroing my browning 223 x bolt

[arfon 0]

please can you give me some info whitch amo should i use to zero my 223 browning x bolt salker

[HUnter_zero 58]

When you say " Having trouble" what sort of trouble? It might not be an ammunition issue, more likely to be a scope or scope mounting issue (presuming the rifle is in good condition and the crown is undamaged).

 

John

[arfon 0]

thanks john for reply the gun i bought is brand new i have got a leupold vx3 on it i cant get a decent grouping on it the ano i have been using are reminghton 55 grms and whinchesters 55 grs

[HUnter_zero 58]

I am sure your rifle has a 1 in 9 twist rate, as such the 55 grain bullets should stabilise.

 

Have you gone back to basics?

 

Are the stock screws tight, mounts tight, scope mounted correctly and not touching the barrel?

(not trying to teach you to suck eggs).

 

Have you tried another scope?

 

Have you let anyone else try and get a grouping?

 

How big are the groups? I'd hazard a guess that factory fodder will produce 1" c-c at best.

 

John

[andyf 144]

Zeroing needs a set of 'rules' to be observed.

Your Rifle and Scope are very good top end stuff, so I doubt any issues lie there, assuming your mounts are decent and tightened properly, you should be ok.

Try to pick a nice level wind free 'range to set your rifle up, you really MUST rest your rifle on a sand bag or on a Harris swivel bipod, and ideally off a table (or 4x4 bonnet

as a second choice).

I bet if this your first centrefire and you've fired off £30.00 of ammo and hardly got on the paper this has been a bit of a shock?

You must stick with one make and one bullet weight only until you are getting to a decent zero, also (as you have no doubt noticed) the barrel get very hot very quickly, with

the .223 5 shots are enough then let the barrel cool until it is only 'warm' to touch, otherwise it will shoot all over the place.

I suggest you start to zero at 50 yards, use a big piece of paper (i.e. 4 sheets of A3 on a back board), that way you should get a 'hole' first time. Adjust the scope 2>3 clicks at

a time only, make sure you note the way the shot moves in relation to the drum clicks.

Whatever else if you have a hole somewhere near the aimpoint fire 2 more at the same spot, they should be very close to each other.

Try the above and let us know?

[tanktfb 2]

try using american eagle 50g jacketed hollow point they are amazing in my howa 223 it has a 1 in 12 twist rate

[upperlane2 4]

£30 Pounds took me a season to get hang off mine. First mistake was thinking its just a matter of getting a centre fire and ill kill everything out 2 300yards.

First dont be worrying relax breath properly get used to the trigger weight and the grouping will take care off themselfs . thats after trying as much different ammo as possible till ur confident with a bullet (mightn,t allways be the recommend one ur mates have). and most off all ENJOY

[markha 99]

You say you cant get a decent group, what are you getting then and at what range? I use Remington 55gr accutip and Winchester 55gr silvertips in my remmy 700 and they group just fine, i have 1/9 twist and get easy 1/2" group at 100yds often with a couple of shots touching and 1 shot that lets the group out to 1/2 to 3/4".

If your getting 1.5" to 2" etc at 100yds I wouldnt worry to much, it could just be your trigger technique and follow through letting you down.

 

If your groups are bigger than 3-4" at 100yds then your shooting technique could need a little bit of work, Or there is something not quiet right with the rifle and as its all new? take it back to where you purchased it from.

 

Im in Bangor N Wales and happy to take you to my zero range and see whats going on.

[HUnter_zero 58]

If your getting 1.5" to 2" etc at 100yds I wouldnt worry to much, it could just be your trigger technique and follow through letting you down.

If your groups are bigger than 3-4" at 100yds then your shooting technique could need a little bit of work, Or there is something not quiet right with the rifle and as its all new? take it back to where you purchased it from.

 

I think that's the sum of the situation. If it's factory standard then a 1" group is very good going with 1-2" groups being fair. (proper groups, everyone gets .3" now and then )

 

John

[kernow oli 28]

Sorry to hijack the thread,

I'm having trouble zeroing my 17 hwr at the

mo, if aiming dead centre and three shots land say 2" high 1"left, do you then go up and left on your scopes ???

I'm getting well confused with it???

Cheers

[HUnter_zero 58]

three shots land say 2" high 1"left, do you then go up and left on your scopes ???

 

1) depends on the range you are zeroing.

2) depends on the scope you are using.

 

Presuming you are zeroing at 100 yards and your scope has 1/4" adjustment turrets.

You would click 8 down / 4 right

 

John

[zx10mike 137]

You say you cant get a decent group, what are you getting then and at what range? I use Remington 55gr accutip and Winchester 55gr silvertips in my remmy 700 and they group just fine, i have 1/9 twist and get easy 1/2" group at 100yds often with a couple of shots touching and 1 shot that lets the group out to 1/2 to 3/4".

If your getting 1.5" to 2" etc at 100yds I wouldnt worry to much, it could just be your trigger technique and follow through letting you down.

 

If your groups are bigger than 3-4" at 100yds then your shooting technique could need a little bit of work, Or there is something not quiet right with the rifle and as its all new? take it back to where you purchased it from.

 

Im in Bangor N Wales and happy to take you to my zero range and see whats going on.

 

 

i will disagree there i can shoot one rifle .25 and anouther 1" matching ammo to rifle is everything home loading is the answer .my t3 .204 shot 2" with factory ammo .once you find the right ammo primer powder seating depth trim length neck thickness most barrels will give sub .50"

still working on my 1" group but i will get there

[dogvixen01 34]

if you are shooting and group is way off you may be better bore sighting first before you start actually firing .this should get you close before fine tuning when firing.,there are good videos on you tube about zeroing .another benefit may be to buy a bore sighter/laser.they are not to dear to buy and will save you time and money by not wasting so many bullets.there are reviews of various bore sighters / lasers and how to use them also on you tube.good luck .atb hope this helps.

[HUnter_zero 58]

You say you cant get a decent group, what are you getting then and at what range? I use Remington 55gr accutip and Winchester 55gr silvertips in my remmy 700 and they group just fine, i have 1/9 twist and get easy 1/2" group at 100yds often with a couple of shots touching and 1 shot that lets the group out to 1/2 to 3/4".

If your getting 1.5" to 2" etc at 100yds I wouldnt worry to much, it could just be your trigger technique and follow through letting you down.

 

If your groups are bigger than 3-4" at 100yds then your shooting technique could need a little bit of work, Or there is something not quiet right with the rifle and as its all new? take it back to where you purchased it from.

 

Im in Bangor N Wales and happy to take you to my zero range and see whats going on.

 

 

i will disagree there i can shoot one rifle .25 and anouther 1" matching ammo to rifle is everything home loading is the answer .my t3 .204 shot 2" with factory ammo .once you find the right ammo primer powder seating depth trim length neck thickness most barrels will give sub .50"

still working on my 1" group but i will get there

 

I am sure Mark doesn't need my input, but I think you will find that Mark was talking about factory ammunition. Totally agree the only way to squeeze the last drop of accuracy out of a rifle is to reload and work up a load for that specific rifle. My .243 with 58 grain V-max (pet load) will produce one tiny holed groups at 100 yards, my .308 1/2" groups at 100 yards shooting a pet load. Now with factory fodder, my .243" gives 2" groups at 100 yards and my .308 just over 1".

 

John

Edited September 3, 2011 by HUnter_zero

[upperlane2 4]

did u try zeroing at about 40 yards ull be a lot accurater. and still be spot on at 200yds