Breaking stick's

[windyhill 30]

moll i presume your a female?

please tell me how you would of got the bull x of a red stag please,

 

 

I can honestly say, that is the first time I've ever been asked that question :laugh:

 

Windy, i would not even try to run a red stag alone with a dog, a girl has to know her limitations

 

@ Windy:

 

Never having to carry a dead red stag but assuming they're very heavy, why the hell would anybody want go out by themselves with a dog and kill one, female or not?

 

ACCIDENTS HAPPEN MALT,SUPPOSE YOURS THAT TRAINED YOU CAN CALL THEM OF

[Moll. 1,770]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

Been there, done that, but worse, never needed a stick.

[long dogs 580]

bugger ya sticks finger up starfish does the trick lol

[Guest sam]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

in all my years of keeping running dogs,i have only ever had one major kennel fight,and that was caused by strange dogs.all the other time they were all happy and content.maybe im just lucky.and if ever i had expierenced a fight like you just described.i wouldnt be f*****g about with a bit stick.but then again thats just me.you young lads seem to knw it all maybe we older lads should just give it up ,we obviously have been doing it wrong for years.

 

 

what makes you think we are all young lads

[Malt 379]

ACCIDENTS HAPPEN MALT,SUPPOSE YOURS THAT TRAINED YOU CAN CALL THEM OF

 

Yep...

[scothunter 12,609]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

in all my years of keeping running dogs,i have only ever had one major kennel fight,and that was caused by strange dogs.all the other time they were all happy and content.maybe im just lucky.and if ever i had expierenced a fight like you just described.i wouldnt be f*****g about with a bit stick.but then again thats just me.you young lads seem to knw it all maybe we older lads should just give it up ,we obviously have been doing it wrong for years.

 

 

what makes you think we are all young lads

 

just the impression i get.

[scothunter 12,609]

moll i presume your a female?

please tell me how you would of got the bull x of a red stag please,

 

 

I can honestly say, that is the first time I've ever been asked that question :laugh:

 

Windy, i would not even try to run a red stag alone with a dog, a girl has to know her limitations

 

@ Windy:

 

Never having to carry a dead red stag but assuming they're very heavy, why the hell would anybody want go out by themselves with a dog and kill one, female or not?

 

ACCIDENTS HAPPEN MALT,SUPPOSE YOURS THAT TRAINED YOU CAN CALL THEM OF

 

see no plausible reason why you would keep a dog that wont be called off.i will go further and say its a liability if you are somewhere you shouldnt be.i got no time to be prizing quarry from a dog in a field.and wouldnt go with someone whos dog did.

[brigg 54]

if you need a stick then the dog is thick...or in most cases badly trained...i have ran two bull x's of my own over the past 10yr's ..i have also used and been out with several other strong dog's over the year's and not once has a stick ever been needed..if i ever did need to use a stick i would be very disappointed with myself and give up running dogs.

millet there not bull xs you'r running there culls. get your self a proper bull cross and then you will see what the guy's are on about

 

So in your opinion a dog well drilled in the 'leave it' command is a cull?

the right bullx it wouldent matter what command you teach it. if the dogs lached on and kinked up.. do you think if you shout a command drilled in or not it will just let go just like that i dont think so.

[blan89 159]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

Been there, done that, but worse, never needed a stick.

 

what did you do then?

 

the terrier will not let go,even if you threw him into water he'd just drown (and take the other dog with him) I know this because he's nearly drowned himself trying to drag a sheep carcass out of a river before (i used a stick then aswell)

 

im not saying i have all the answers but in some situations i know of no better way than using a break stick.

[chimp 299]

rather have a dog i have break off then some half hearted piece of shit that will let go because it doesnt want to be there in the first place. and when the f**k do people think sticks are a new thing , i tell you what is new to me tho ..... keeping a mxyi rabbit to see if it can be cured and sticking it on your sofa for pics . wtf !!

[hedz31 1,308]

I always keep a breaking stick about there handy tools sometimes if ye running dogs into large herds or theres plenty game about its the quickest option,i aint keen on letting a dog rag the feck outta edible large quarry i want it off and dealt with quickly and as queitly as possible, i aint into kicking a dog of or shouting at it to let go while i am out, i dont usualy use them when a dog is on a fox but i have had other foxes coming in while one is being dealt with so a breaking stick was handy and quick and it aint just bull cross dogs they can be used on i wonder how some of ye dogs would come of other quarry,and the only time ive left a dog on deer is to see what its made of in a fallow rut thats simply to test the fecker the rest i break off

[Malt 379]

if you need a stick then the dog is thick...or in most cases badly trained...i have ran two bull x's of my own over the past 10yr's ..i have also used and been out with several other strong dog's over the year's and not once has a stick ever been needed..if i ever did need to use a stick i would be very disappointed with myself and give up running dogs.

millet there not bull xs you'r running there culls. get your self a proper bull cross and then you will see what the guy's are on about

 

So in your opinion a dog well drilled in the 'leave it' command is a cull?

the right bullx it wouldent matter what command you teach it. if the dogs lached on and kinked up.. do you think if you shout a command drilled in or not it will just let go just like that i dont think so.

 

Whatever.. Maybe our definitions of the right dog are different.. If I had two dogs which could do exactly the same job but one couldn't be called off without breaking, there's only one place that dog would end up...

[hedz31 1,308]

if you need a stick then the dog is thick...or in most cases badly trained...i have ran two bull x's of my own over the past 10yr's ..i have also used and been out with several other strong dog's over the year's and not once has a stick ever been needed..if i ever did need to use a stick i would be very disappointed with myself and give up running dogs.

millet there not bull xs you'r running there culls. get your self a proper bull cross and then you will see what the guy's are on about

 

So in your opinion a dog well drilled in the 'leave it' command is a cull?

the right bullx it wouldent matter what command you teach it. if the dogs lached on and kinked up.. do you think if you shout a command drilled in or not it will just let go just like that i dont think so.

 

Whatever.. Maybe our definitions of the right dog are different.. If I had two dogs which could do exactly the same job but one couldn't be called off without breaking, there's only one place that dog would end up...

So ye would cull a dog for not coming of something malt and folks call me harsh i thought ye were wiser than that fella

[Moll. 1,770]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

Been there, done that, but worse, never needed a stick.

 

what did you do then?

 

the terrier will not let go,even if you threw him into water he'd just drown (and take the other dog with him) I know this because he's nearly drowned himself trying to drag a sheep carcass out of a river before (i used a stick then aswell)

 

im not saying i have all the answers but in some situations i know of no better way than using a break stick.

 

I am not saying you are wrong blan everyone has to make their own choices with their own dogs, and if something works then do it. But all this talk of a dog has no heart because it can be made to leave by the owner without the need for a breaking stick is absolute poo.

 

Two terriers attached face to face, bull x chewing one of the terriers rear legs. Made the bull x leave, cos that is what she had been trained all her life to do when told, then dealt with the terriers in the same manner.

I wont have a dog here with me dictating what i can and cannot have around the place, so i instill from an early age if i say no, it means no, quite simple really, much easier than prising jaws apart with a stick.

 

PS....I've never used the pond yet, but it is always at the back of my mind just incase, as like i say, you can never trust a dog 100%

[j1985 1,984]

I have a few, not because I think my bulldogs "well hard" it's because I know he is and accidents can and do happen!! If keeping a few handy makes me a so called macho moron then so be it, like I'm bothered by what a few jumped up internet muppets on here think, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Never used one on a lurcher but then I'm only on my 1st and I'm actually teaching her to out, easier said than done though when dealing with insane prey drive.

 

Also I believe if your hitting/kicking/screaming at your dog to get it off then you either need to sell up or maybe purchase a stick.