Millet 4,497 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 thats a f*****g belter comming from you :rofl: Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,182 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) This was a good thread, l'm all for less of the name calling and more of a constructive debate. :thumbs: This is obviously a subject whhich brings up strong emotion. My take and experience is this, in 1986 i got an after school job walking a kennel of imported bulls, i was shown this strange piece of equipment and shown how to use it, not for any dark or seedy purposes but in case an accident happened on exercise. When i first got a very well bred and drivey bull cross i realised the breakstick was a usefull piece of equipment, i am not and wasn't an inexperienced dog trainer and im used to drivey dogs BUT when dealing with fox and deer (all way before the ban) i found a breakstick much more humane and usefull than choking the dog off, i never had the same problem with rabbits and hares, these were delivered easily to hand BUT imo quarry which produced raised levels of drive/agitation/fight gives a dog with very high drive tunnel vision and extreme focus on the task in hand its not a case of disobediance but the mere fact the dog is in his own world, pretty much the same as when dogs fight, ive never owned or seen one that can be told leave and stops scrapping. I think this could be a great debate without the need for falling out, im certainly no chav or moron worried about owning a dog for any sort of image and im quite happily with my bunny bashers nowdays I can understand it if they are not you dogs but It shouldn't take long if the dogs are reared and trained by yourself. I know and understand about "raised levels of drive/agitation/fight gives a dog with high drive tunnel vision and extreme focus" but if it was my dog that I had reared and trained? I would be able to make it release and I have had extremely switched on dogs. And if it is stressful they will eventually learn . Don't know what happened there. Edited August 30, 2011 by leegreen Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I stay straddled hedz Now there's a good girl. Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I stay straddled hedz Now there's a good girl. Stop spreading yourself about on the forum..but then again that will sound quite kinky to some hillbillies Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 last season i was out bushing for keepers and the young first season dog had its foot in a fox's mouth things like this happen and carnt be helped , well i had nothing to hand to open its mouth so i had to dispatch the fox which in the situation wasnt easy, i wish i had known of these breaking sticks sooner would of saved the young dog some suffering. An open mind is always looking for ways to improve Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Fook me this conversation has ruined my day..i have got nothing done through laughing..off out with the dog's for now with my pinch bar in tow.. Quote Link to post
artic 595 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I stay straddled hedz Now there's a good girl. Typical blood hound! Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I stay straddled hedz Now there's a good girl. Stop spreading yourself about on the forum..but then again that will sound quite kinky to some hillbillies You gay homey? Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I stay straddled hedz Now there's a good girl. Stop spreading yourself about on the forum..but then again that will sound quite kinky to some hillbillies You gay homey? I could be turned if that babe in your Avatar had bollock's.. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 after twenty five years of chasing all sorts never nneded a breaking stick or any thing to get dog of qaury used my body weight and mates if it was to heavy and dealt with it humanely as poss ,wouldnt like a dog that i cant get off the minute i get in on the act etc 1 Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 breaking sticks ,brill tool used by the pro bull terrier men ,has for the use in lurchers they are also brill for those who have not been in the presence of atop bull crossworking his quarry , Obviously dont know whaty his been got over here ,theres bull crosses and theres bull crosses .its got nothing to do with the training tequnices,and has for the bunny dogs wel this type come in on the bottom end of the scale has far has bull xs are concerned.windy hill was well informed by his daa,and informed with knowledge of running the type on the heavy stuff bred right.whin comentedbut he runs saluki collie greys with a dash of grew ,totally different type of animal.heard of a 4guys neede to choke a bull cross of his first fallow once took a hell of a while ,2secs with even a quickie nock uo stick end of a broom stale interesting thread ya seethe wheat and the chaff in this thread atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 4guys neede to choke a bull cross of his first fallow once took a hell of a while sounds like a f*****g nitemare to me. Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I don't think there's anything more necessary in your kit then a medical bag. Like joball said for a start it can be used to break quarry from dogs. As far as bullxs go, it don't look like yours have seen a bramble let alone a tooth moll Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I don't think there's anything more necessary in your kit then a medical bag. Like joball said for a start it can be used to break quarry from dogs. As far as bullxs go, it don't look like yours have seen a bramble let alone a tooth moll I never said he had Dances Quote Link to post
Guest Josy Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 As far as bullxs go, it don't look like yours have seen a bramble let alone a tooth moll Thats a belter Quote Link to post
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