Guest Josy Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) I bet the idiot Millet still wishs he was a mod so he could give us all a ban for uncovering his idiocy No i would not want to miss this for the world..i find it very amusing the way the chav's are showing them self's up. Chavs not one person who has disagreed with your ludicrus statements about break sticks is a chav. ETA... nor young for that matter Edited August 30, 2011 by Josy Quote Link to post
chimp 299 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 ok ive got to put my hands up here and say im a bit lost , maybe it's a thl thing. if a dog is bred for certain prey in which a stick is needed would you be having that dog in your house sleeping on your furniture? a non biased poll should be put up, it would be intresting to see the results right or wrong atb Hang on i thought you said you weren't going to say any more on the subject, just couldn't help yourself could you sorry , i meant with someone so f*****g clueless as you , my typo sorry atb Aww your starting to get nasty, no need Takes all the fun out of it sorry if it's coming over like that , i just think we are not talking about the same sort of thing regarding this .... oh and millet , im no chav and i have a stick . my dogs only gets walked at night and exercised during the day well away from people and i carry a 'STICK' , shock horror ..... who am i trying to impress? . did you know the police dog handlers round this way are now carrying sticks aswell the god damn dirty chavs lol Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 last season i was out bushing for keepers and the young first season dog had its foot in a fox's mouth things like this happen and carnt be helped , well i had nothing to hand to open its mouth so i had to dispatch the fox which in the situation wasnt easy, i wish i had known of these breaking sticks sooner would of saved the young dog some suffering. Quote Link to post
Guest Josy Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 last season i was out bushing for keepers and the young first season dog had its foot in a fox's mouth things like this happen and carnt be helped , well i had nothing to hand to open its mouth so i had to dispatch the fox which in the situation wasnt easy, i wish i had known of these breaking sticks sooner would of saved the young dog some suffering. An open mind is always looking for ways to improve Quote Link to post
artic 595 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 This was a good thread, l'm all for less of the name calling and more of a constructive debate. 2 Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 ok ive got to put my hands up here and say im a bit lost , maybe it's a thl thing. if a dog is bred for certain prey in which a stick is needed would you be having that dog in your house sleeping on your furniture? a non biased poll should be put up, it would be intresting to see the results right or wrong atb Hang on i thought you said you weren't going to say any more on the subject, just couldn't help yourself could you sorry , i meant with someone so f*****g clueless as you , my typo sorry atb Aww your starting to get nasty, no need Takes all the fun out of it sorry if it's coming over like that , i just think we are not talking about the same sort of thing regarding this . Said the same thing on a similar thread recently Chimp http://www.thehuntin...ost__p__2215322 Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 @scothunter what about between your own dogs? ive got a very strong little patterdale I have a very strong big Pat X Border that has had quite a few rumbles with my 26in 70lb bullX the bull X will leave on command and the Pat X is simply choked of within second's..you cannot get much easier than that.. tbh this little patterdale is a bullx and 1 intense little f****r,like i said he smashed up my adult 50 pound lurcher when he was still a 10 month pup not the other way round,it would take him passing out to get him off and you cant choke a dog out within a few seconds. im not saying your lying but if your dog let go that fast it did so willingly assuming the dogs actually committed a stick is a lot faster. Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 you cant choke a dog out within a few seconds. Oh yes you can.. ..and if you dont have the strength to do then i suggest 3 shredded wheat a day for your breakfast.. i was in my garden about a month ago and i could here all this screaming and shouting outside..when i went out they was two chav hoody tracksuit and trainer types outside trying to break two staff's up..one of the staff's had hold of the other dog's face..they where punching/kicking and twisting the ball's on it and it would not let go..i said you are wasting your time hitting it..i went back in the house and picked a rope dog lead up..placed it round the dog's neck and give some tight twisting..i told them to keep there dog's taught so they could not latch onto each other again..after roughly 5 second's the offending dog released it's grip and the two clown's walked there separate way's shaking with fright. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 This was a good thread, l'm all for less of the name calling and more of a constructive debate. :thumbs: This is obviously a subject whhich brings up strong emotion. My take and experience is this, in 1986 i got an after school job walking a kennel of imported bulls, i was shown this strange piece of equipment and shown how to use it, not for any dark or seedy purposes but in case an accident happened on exercise. When i first got a very well bred and drivey bull cross i realised the breakstick was a usefull piece of equipment, i am not and wasn't an inexperienced dog trainer and im used to drivey dogs BUT when dealing with fox and deer (all way before the ban) i found a breakstick much more humane and usefull than choking the dog off, i never had the same problem with rabbits and hares, these were delivered easily to hand BUT imo quarry which produced raised levels of drive/agitation/fight gives a dog with very high drive tunnel vision and extreme focus on the task in hand its not a case of disobediance but the mere fact the dog is in his own world, pretty much the same as when dogs fight, ive never owned or seen one that can be told leave and stops scrapping. I think this could be a great debate without the need for falling out, im certainly no chav or moron worried about owning a dog for any sort of image and im quite happily with my bunny bashers nowdays Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 yes the dogs let go,if they didnt want to let go they wouldn't of,it did it voluntarily like most dogs will if you choke them for a second or 2. by choking out i mean choking it until its passed out. Quote Link to post
windyhill 30 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 12 pages of 2 idiots trying to say breaking sticks are no good,Well just shows how clueless some are its comon sence really and joball hit the nail on the head with the fox holding the leg and the comment better to have it if needed then not have it Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 12 pages of 2 idiots trying to say breaking sticks are no good,Well just shows how clueless some are its comon sence really and joball hit the nail on the head with the fox holding the leg and the comment better to have it if needed then not have it thats a f*****g belter comming from you Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 ] :thumbs: This is obviously a subject whhich brings up strong emotion. My take and experience is this, in 1986 i got an after school job walking a kennel of imported bulls, i was shown this strange piece of equipment and shown how to use it, not for any dark or seedy purposes but in case an accident happened on exercise. When i first got a very well bred and drivey bull cross i realised the breakstick was a usefull piece of equipment, i am not and wasn't an inexperienced dog trainer and im used to drivey dogs BUT when dealing with fox and deer (all way before the ban) i found a breakstick much more humane and usefull than choking the dog off, i never had the same problem with rabbits and hares, these were delivered easily to hand BUT imo quarry which produced raised levels of drive/agitation/fight gives a dog with very high drive tunnel vision and extreme focus on the task in hand its not a case of disobediance but the mere fact the dog is in his own world, pretty much the same as when dogs fight, ive never owned or seen one that can be told leave and stops scrapping. I think this could be a great debate without the need for falling out, im certainly no chav or moron worried about owning a dog for any sort of image and im quite happily with my bunny bashers nowdays Simo.. pure old bull breed's are a totally different kettle of fish as far as working lurcher's are concerned..if the pure american pit had not been banned and i owned several i would consider a stick then.. BUT not with a fooking lurcher.. Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,210 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) This was a good thread, l'm all for less of the name calling and more of a constructive debate. :thumbs: This is obviously a subject whhich brings up strong emotion. My take and experience is this, in 1986 i got an after school job walking a kennel of imported bulls, i was shown this strange piece of equipment and shown how to use it, not for any dark or seedy purposes but in case an accident happened on exercise. When i first got a very well bred and drivey bull cross i realised the breakstick was a usefull piece of equipment, i am not and wasn't an inexperienced dog trainer and im used to drivey dogs BUT when dealing with fox and deer (all way before the ban) i found a breakstick much more humane and usefull than choking the dog off, i never had the same problem with rabbits and hares, these were delivered easily to hand BUT imo quarry which produced raised levels of drive/agitation/fight gives a dog with very high drive tunnel vision and extreme focus on the task in hand its not a case of disobediance but the mere fact the dog is in his own world, pretty much the same as when dogs fight, ive never owned or seen one that can be told leave and stops scrapping. I think this could be a great debate without the need for falling out, im certainly no chav or moron worried about owning a dog for any sort of image and im quite happily with my bunny bashers nowdays I can understand it if they are not you dogs but It shouldn't take long if the dogs are reared and trained by yourself. I know and understand about "raised levels of drive/agitation/fight gives a dog with high drive tunnel vision and extreme focus" but if it was my dog that I had reared and trained? And if it caused stress, it would soon learn . Edited August 30, 2011 by leegreen 1 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 12 pages of 2 idiots trying to say breaking sticks are no good,Well just shows how clueless some are its comon sence really and joball hit the nail on the head with the fox holding the leg and the comment better to have it if needed then not have it Only 2 idiot's..i must be reading a different thread Quote Link to post
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