Breaking stick's

[Mooching Celt 659]

The only time you should ever need a stick is to drive the woman back into the kitchen

[Moll. 1,770]

 

tbh i still dont think a dog could be conditioned to let go on command when fired up one minute but then be willing to hold on through hell or high water the next.

 

2 different types of personalities imo.

 

You will have to trust me when i say they can blan, people can train dogs to do all sorts of things, just look at police dogs for example?

 

Different personalities may well come into it, in so many ways

[Guest sam]

seen a lot of bullcrosses in my time,but never seen one that could be called off quarry.or let go of stuff on comand,i think those that can do it are not better dog trainers,they just have shitty hearted culls imho

[Malt 379]

Well lass i only say it as i have seen it myself i aint gonna lie and say my dogs come of at the flick of my fingers or a down shep like some on here,the only dogs ive seen come of where the ones that jacked with there tails between there legs,

 

So would you call a dog who killed it's quarry then let go without the aid of a breaking stick on command a jacker then Hedz? I'm no hardcore lurcher man either, but I've seen plenty enough to know what I like to have in a dog. I've seen dogs who will not leave dead quarry alone for love nor money & I've also seen dogs with enough sense to leave whatever it is they've killed once it's dead with no need for any indication. Is it wrong to prefer one type over the other?

 

Maybe it's the way things are going now. Killing power & insane prey drive seems to be the ultimate goal for some on here over all other traits like intelligence & general trainability. Maybe I am talking shit, I'm just a bloke who enjoys watching a dog work. For me it's as much about the anticipation about what might be over the next gate as it is about watching a dog finish it's quarry off.

[The Happy Ferret 6]

Great topic.....

[Moll. 1,770]

seen a lot of bullcrosses in my time,but never seen one that could be called off quarry.or let go of stuff on comand,i think those that can do it are not better dog trainers,they just have shitty hearted culls imho

 

Or shitty trainers

There is a huge difference between a dog being called off quarry and one trained to let go btw

[Millet 4,497]

so how do you get a dog off a 100lb fallow to release,if the police or keeper pulls into the field looking for you millet

If for some strange reason i lost my voice..i would just stick my thumb up the dog's arse..

[chimp 299]

you know what .... lol

Edited August 30, 2011 by chimp

[Guest Josy]

Lots of different views and opinions, funny how people form opinions about things they have no experience or knowledge of. Ignorance is the word that springs to mind.

 

Millet my apollogies for getting it wrong about you being Moll's boyfriend, Ive just been informed by pm she has sacked you.

Edited August 30, 2011 by Josy

[Millet 4,497]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale

I have a very strong big Pat X Border that has had quite a few rumbles with my 26in 70lb bullX the bull X will leave on command and the Pat X is simply choked of within second's..you cannot get much easier than that..

[hedz31 1,308]

Well lass i only say it as i have seen it myself i aint gonna lie and say my dogs come of at the flick of my fingers or a down shep like some on here,the only dogs ive seen come of where the ones that jacked with there tails between there legs,

 

So would you call a dog who killed it's quarry then let go without the aid of a breaking stick on command a jacker then Hedz? I'm no hardcore lurcher man either, but I've seen plenty enough to know what I like to have in a dog. I've seen dogs who will not leave dead quarry alone for love nor money & I've also seen dogs with enough sense to leave whatever it is they've killed once it's dead with no need for any indication. Is it wrong to prefer one type over the other?

 

Maybe it's the way things are going now. Killing power & insane prey drive seems to be the ultimate goal for some on here and all other traits like intelligence & general trainability. Maybe I am talking shit, I'm just a bloke who enjoys watching a dog work. For me it's as much about the anticipation about what might be over the next gate as it is about watching a dog finish it's quarry off.

what so ye leave a dog to kill a deer pardon me if am wrong pal but killing a deer aint a quick quiet thing ye must be standing there for some time watching the thrashing about and noise are ye helping the dog out by cutting there throat or sticking it ??? i deal with it y way fella ye deal with it yours i like it done quick and as quietly as possible each to there own

[Guest sam]

so how do you get a dog off a 100lb fallow to release,if the police or keeper pulls into the field looking for you millet

If for some strange reason i lost my voice..i would just stick my thumb up the dog's arse..

 

your a strange cull of a man millet.who hides behind moll man up you tool

[Millet 4,497]

Millet my apollogies for getting it wrong about you being Moll's boyfriend, Ive just been informed by pm she has sacked you.

Thankyou for that.. you have made me all emotional now..

[chimp 299]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale

I have a very strong big Pat X Border that has had quite a few rumbles with my 26in 70lb bullX the bull X will leave on command and the Pat X is simply choked of within second's..you cannot get much easier than that..

 

 

arhhh the old ' choke the dog off routine '

[Malt 379]

Well lass i only say it as i have seen it myself i aint gonna lie and say my dogs come of at the flick of my fingers or a down shep like some on here,the only dogs ive seen come of where the ones that jacked with there tails between there legs,

 

So would you call a dog who killed it's quarry then let go without the aid of a breaking stick on command a jacker then Hedz? I'm no hardcore lurcher man either, but I've seen plenty enough to know what I like to have in a dog. I've seen dogs who will not leave dead quarry alone for love nor money & I've also seen dogs with enough sense to leave whatever it is they've killed once it's dead with no need for any indication. Is it wrong to prefer one type over the other?

 

Maybe it's the way things are going now. Killing power & insane prey drive seems to be the ultimate goal for some on here and all other traits like intelligence & general trainability. Maybe I am talking shit, I'm just a bloke who enjoys watching a dog work. For me it's as much about the anticipation about what might be over the next gate as it is about watching a dog finish it's quarry off.

what so ye leave a dog to kill a deer pardon me if am wrong pal but killing a deer aint a quick quiet thing ye must be standing there for some time watching the thrashing about and noise are ye helping the dog out by cutting there throat or sticking it ??? i deal with it y way fella ye deal with it yours i like it done quick and as quietly as possible each to there own

 

Well that's where my inexperience shows mate, I've never been lucky enough to hunt deer with dogs. If this thread was purely about hunting deer, I'll hold my hands up and bow out.