Ratreeper 441 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 It's weird to think you all seem to call yourself 'dogmen'. If you knew the first thing about dogs then you would know it's down to the owner and the owners responsibility to socialise it. I am of the opinion nurture trumps nature with domestic dogs and can't see why one of these could turn out to be a good pet. Pretty f*****g useless for anything else, but so are 99.9% of dogs in this country. £3000 is a joke I agree and they will probably get bought by wankers. But let's stop blaming dogs for human error. Rotties have a terrible rep but I think they are 100% trustworthy in the right hands. The one I had came from a rescue and had been kept unsocialised as a guard, beaten and not really looked after. He turned out to be the perfect dog, it took patience but he was almost entirely changed after 6 months and after a year you wouldn't have recognised him! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 It's weird to think you all seem to call yourself 'dogmen'. If you knew the first thing about dogs then you would know it's down to the owner and the owners responsibility to socialise it. I am of the opinion nurture trumps nature with domestic dogs and can't see why one of these could turn out to be a good pet. Pretty f*****g useless for anything else, but so are 99.9% of dogs in this country. £3000 is a joke I agree and they will probably get bought by wankers. But let's stop blaming dogs for human error. Rotties have a terrible rep but I think they are 100% trustworthy in the right hands. The one I had came from a rescue and had been kept unsocialised as a guard, beaten and not really looked after. He turned out to be the perfect dog, it took patience but he was almost entirely changed after 6 months and after a year you wouldn't have recognised him! dont dispute that,but unfortunaeatly the maj of people who have these dogs are arseholes and cant kep thier kids under control never mind a dog.so on that basis i dont trust them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,256 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) It's weird to think you all seem to call yourself 'dogmen'. If you knew the first thing about dogs then you would know it's down to the owner and the owners responsibility to socialise it. I am of the opinion nurture trumps nature with domestic dogs and can't see why one of these could turn out to be a good pet. Pretty f*****g useless for anything else, but so are 99.9% of dogs in this country. £3000 is a joke I agree and they will probably get bought by wankers. But let's stop blaming dogs for human error. The thing is though mate......the nature of the type of people who buy into this sort of bollocks are certainly not dogmen,they are not even men !.....most are likely to be soppy little kids with their jeans hanging halfway down their legs who dont have the foggiest clue how to handle the type of dog thats definately not for beginners..... Ok so you go with nurture over nature....personally i dont as i believe in the age old saying of " you cant put in what nature left out ".......these are poorly bred dogs,bred for no real reason or purpose hence they have no direction in the breeding selection process apart from " big and aggressive "........big and aggressive is not a potential breeding quality within any breed,yet the type of dickhead who will breed these dogs will make big and aggressive the top of the list of priorities.... Theres only so much an owner can do.....a poor owner can easily make a good dog bad but will never make a bad dog good if that dog is bad from within.....and unscrupulous breeding always has and always will cause dogs to be born that are bad from within......its just the laws of nature im afraid........ok a bad dog with a good responsible owner may be controlable,but like i said,breeds like these dont attract good responsible owners they attract little dickheads with egos.......a recipe for disaster ! Edited September 16, 2011 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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