B.P.R 2,798 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Had the pup back and forth to the vets for weeks with stomach problems. They diagnosed gastroenteritis and then colitis. Went today and they said to give her hypo allergenic dog food. Working so nipped into pets at home ad got the cheapest one. Wainwrights. £7.50 for 2kg. Moneys tight so does anybody know where I can get hypo-allergenic dog biscuits from? Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zx12edge 1,001 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Try this place £16 for 15kg http://shop.mymaddog...g-food-41-p.asp or Pro- and Prebiotic supplement for £12 for a 350g tub http://shop.mymaddog...ments-128-c.asp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barry lurcher 27 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 my girlfriends old dog had this 4 years [bANNED TEXT] i met her,now her old dog eats wat mine eat and guess wat problem solved ! mine eat cooked up minced chicken carcass and veg along with a bit of complete mix , it cost her a small fortune [bANNED TEXT] and still didnt solve it but by having the correct food in take it was solved dogs just cannot prosess all the crap they put in tinned and complete food its just fills there stomachs up and then they just shit it all back out , another plus about feeding mostly meat and bone is you hardly get any shit out of them and wat you get is like bullets plus they dont fart [unlike tinned or complete food , all the best paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 If it was an infection, which is the most likely cause then you may not need a special food in the long term. I’d start with a home made chicken and rice type diet till things have settled, then perhaps skinners duck and rice, around £22 for 15kg. Another method would be to make up your own feed with meat and cereal, ie oats or rice, plus some cooked veg, I’d stick to human quality meat to begin with. Either of the two may work and once all is settled try adding small amounts of normal completes, if no problems then you can increase. Occasionally there are real reactions to diet that are nothing to do with infection, thankfully these are few and far between and I’ve stuck a piece I did on this below . Regards s First let me say I am not a vet and this is a layman’s prospective. Colitis means inflammation of the colon, the colons role is the absorption of water and salt, the production of various hormones and the fermentation of dietary fibre which produces short chain fatty acids (SCFA). It contains a large population of bacteria to carry out the fermentation process and protect against harmful bacteria. After this process the muscular colon moves the residual waste to the rectum for storage prior to emptying. Colitis is not uncommon in dogs and the reasons are not entirely known but it is thought to be generally an immune mediated reaction to such things as bacteria or parasites with dietary factors often being involved. If there is a found causative factor then treatment will be based around the diagnosis but in many cases no definitive cause can be found. Some dog have functional diarrhoea often associated with stressors without physical changes to the gastric tract in line with IBS in humans. Canine IBS is most commonly found in working dogs but any highly strung animal can be at risk and removing the stress can often bring a cessation of symptoms but as this is only part of the problem a multi action treatment is often needed. Drugs are often required to bring about remission and the vet is where one needs to go as the first point of contact, as the underlying cause cannot always be found treatment is aimed a managing symptoms rather than cure and diet is also thought to play a major part. One method is the use of novel protein diets along with fermentable fibre and polyunsaturated fatty acids to give long term management. Elimination diets, prepared at home, provide a new protein with an appropriate carbohydrate, usually rice fed exclusively for at least 4 weeks. Once symptoms settle other foods can be added and response noted to identify any hypersensitivity. No extras in the form of supplements should be used during this period. Over the counter hypoallergenic diets follow the novel protein route with a variety of sources available such as rabbit, fish, duck etc and come with the option of added fibre. A second novel protein can be substituted for the first after a few weeks and maintained in the longer term. There is evidence to suggest that appropriate fibre has a role to play and that the fermentability of fibre is important in aiding nutrient absorption, colonic health and formation of the SCFA. Moderately fermentable fibre is suggested as best in producing adequate SCFA to maintain health and reduce incidence of colorectal tumours, commercial feeds use beet pulp to fulfil this role. In home prepared meals whole grain rice or the use of oats may be appropriate once symptoms are in remission. Another area with some evidence is the use of polyunsaturated fatty acids with studies showing a reduction in symptoms of some animals when fish oils is added to the diet. Dietary intervention is not a cure but it may help but please bare in mind it is not an easy option. One of the biggest problems faced by vets in treating this type of illness is poor owner compliance in that treats, table scraps, supplements etc being introduced whilst still in the elimination phase which makes the exercise fail so if an owner is considering a dietary approach to management then I would recommend a discussion with the vet, proper plan and very very strict adherence to that plan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarryWatson 99 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 hi there i did not know they did it in dog biscuits i just like to say a few words to all these suposed to be dog men telling people that it be aright to feed puppies on any old crap like mince chicken or mince meat go for agood dry puppy food like beta puppy it got all you need in it i paid 45 pound for 2 15 kj bags instead of 35 pound a bag that s why a lot of pups end up with gastro i not trying to get at you but you see werer i coming frome good luck 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midlands_moocher 3 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Give Harringtons a try, you get it from ASDA, Tescos and Morrisons and it wont cost you a small fortune http://www.harringtonsdogfood.co.uk/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.P.R 2,798 Posted August 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Found two, has anybody used either of these? Harringtons lamb and rice Skinners field and trial? Both similar price. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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