gnasher16 30,242 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) The best thing that could happen to this site would surely be the removal of the dogs for sale section. Many young lads buy their first dog from the likes of this site. Without that they would find it very hard to get into the game and make the contacts that allow you the privelige of being gifted well bred pups. There are some genuine pups/dogs advertised on this site as well as the dealers shite. The way forward is to stay vigilant and not feel like a c**t asking the obvious questions on all for sale threads. Perhaps also a pinned thread giving advice to newbies when buying their first pup/dog on what to ask and best practice when a worker/pup is being rehomed. That said.....are we to believe that just because a young lad is looking for a dog on a hunting website he is any more genuine than a young lad who flicks through a free ads newspaper ?.......If i suddenly had an urge to buy a racing car then joined a racing car website would that entitle me to buy a ferrari just because i have the money ? Buying a dog for work off the internet is just that,it dont matter a bit that this happens to be a working dog website.............where and how did folk manage before the days of internet,all the internet has done is create a better platform for peddlars it hasnt created better dogs or better owners...........i agree id like to see the selling of dogs taken off this site,but then ive never sold dogs so.............. Edited August 26, 2011 by gnasher16 Link to post Share on other sites
Stanleigh 135 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Selling dogs is like everything on the internet , it,s open to abuse , but shutting down the for sale section is not the answer , sites like this can be helpful , there are members on here I wouldn,t hesitate to buy from or sell to , there are others I wouldn,t go near with a barge pole , It,s not foolproof but it,s certainly helpful. ATB 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,787 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) The best thing that could happen to this site would surely be the removal of the dogs for sale section. Many young lads buy their first dog from the likes of this site. Without that they would find it very hard to get into the game and make the contacts that allow you the privelige of being gifted well bred pups. There are some genuine pups/dogs advertised on this site as well as the dealers shite. The way forward is to stay vigilant and not feel like a c**t asking the obvious questions on all for sale threads. Perhaps also a pinned thread giving advice to newbies when buying their first pup/dog on what to ask and best practice when a worker/pup is being rehomed. That said.....are we to believe that just because a young lad is looking for a dog on a hunting website he is any more genuine than a young lad who flicks through a free ads newspaper ?.......If i suddenly had an urge to buy a racing car then joined a racing car website would that entitle me to buy a ferrari just because i have the money ? Buying a dog for work off the internet is just that,it dont matter a bit that this happens to be a working dog website.............where and how did folk manage before the days of internet,all the internet has done is create a better platform for peddlars it hasnt created better dogs or better owners...........i agree id like to see the selling of dogs taken off this site,but then ive never sold dogs so.............. Of course not. But my point referred to all centers for the advertisment of working dogs. It would be a wonderfull world if a budding dogman could join a club get to know the real deals and in due course get gifted a dog when he is deemed worthy, but that world doesnt exist. Circles are tight and newbies are shunned away. Having a dog to start with opens doors, invites get handed out and whereas without a dog to run those invites would be alot more scarce. In time those tight knit circles open up and there is no need to take a chance buying dogs from complete strangers who profess to have well bred pups. I dont come from a hunting family and was never brought up with it. It was something that was just part of me from a kid and I got into it through the usual means, air rifle then beating then ferreting, eventually leading onto a bit of DIY keepering but the whole time it was lurchers I wanted to work. Not many in the shooting scene work lurchers and so I had no 'in'. Had I not bought my first dog I would never have met the lads I know now and be in the privelidged position of occasionally being offered well bred pups as a gift, as of course it should be. How many of you wanting to see all dog advertisments banned came from a hunting family or had mates that knew the real deals to sort you that first pup? I've never sold a pup and never will, I've once helped sell a litter of springers for friends that I believed genuinely had working dogs at their best interests but since I've realised a few things and would never help again. Money was their sole desire and I nievely believed they were only breeding for a couple of pups and sell the rest. Thats a mistake I wont be repeating. This is something that seems the done thing in the gun dog world, papers and pedigrees appear more desireable than top quality working parents. Edited August 26, 2011 by Born Hunter Link to post Share on other sites
black recking it 730 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 in away some of them use pic,s of there litter,s to get them sold even though they dont say they are for sale all part of the post TO GET THE ATTENTION ? so very hard to pin point them some times even more when they are not donators but i see there reason,s to adding there PIC,S OF LITTER FACT? SALE SALE SALE ? AND THERE IS PLENTY DONE IT IN THE PAST AND STILL DOING IT NOW ? Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB 1 Link to post Share on other sites
black recking it 730 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB YIP DEFO Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB YIP DEFO Why should they police it? Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB YIP DEFO Why should they police it? So the place doesnt become the breeding ground for arsewipes who give us all a bad name that it has in recent times. Lining the pockets of flash in the pan hunters who will be onto the next thing in a month or so. I realise that you are female and the mention of puppies gets you all light headed, but pull your head out your arse. And as the title 'moderator' suggests they are there to moderate. So it is in fact their job. FTB Edited August 26, 2011 by FightTheBan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB YIP DEFO Why should they police it? erm, cos of the peddlars! Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB YIP DEFO Why should they police it? So the place doesnt become the breeding ground for arsewipes who give us all a bad name that it has in recent times. Lining the pockets of flash in the pan hunters who will be onto the next thing in a month or so. I realise that you are female and the mention of puppies gets you all light headed, but pull your head out your arse. And as the title 'moderator' suggests they are there to moderate. So it is in fact their job. FTB lolol Link to post Share on other sites
black recking it 730 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB YIP DEFO Why should they police it? So the place doesnt become the breeding ground for arsewipes who give us all a bad name that it has in recent times. Lining the pockets of flash in the pan hunters who will be onto the next thing in a month or so. I realise that you are female and the mention of puppies gets you all light headed, but pull your head out your arse. And as the title 'moderator' suggests they are there to moderate. So it is in fact their job. FTB GLAD YOU replied TO THAT LOL Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't see how the Mods need to be responsible for every idiot that posts or sells. That isn't their job. Too many peeps seeing dogs as a commodity to be abused. Well if it's too hard to police it shouldn't be there in the first place. FTB YIP DEFO Why should they police it? So the place doesnt become the breeding ground for arsewipes who give us all a bad name that it has in recent times. Lining the pockets of flash in the pan hunters who will be onto the next thing in a month or so. I realise that you are female and the mention of puppies gets you all light headed, but pull your head out your arse. And as the title 'moderator' suggests they are there to moderate. So it is in fact their job. FTB Hopefully! Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 For sale. 17 year old male, should make good breeding stock, already proven, good strong and agile, can be a bit gobby but can easily be slapped out of him. Reason for sale, not house trained and it's now just p!ssing me off, can't be doing with it. 17 year old female. Cracking all rounder, especially on stuff that bites back. Hasn't worked a day in her life but should be good for popping puppies till late in age, from well known lines, good chest and nice and leggy. Would keep but she growled at one of the dogs and now I just don't trust her. 14 year old male. Lousy recall and seem allergic to daylight hours, should be good to run at night. Reason for sale - wasn't what I was hoping for and just no good to me. 9 year old male. Has behavioural issues, strong willed, good at destroying everything it comes across. Reason for sale - too high a drive for me, keeps going to ground. Good with others, but now trying to eat the cat so has to go. 4 month old male, pup from 17 year old. Good lines and should make a good all rounder. Move forces sale and it never crossed my mind to take it with me or that it may take up so much space and I just don't have the time for it. . Need to move all of them because my dogs have decided they don't get on with and one of them has begun to show allergies. All work day and night and will make brilliant workers in the right hands. No trials. £500 the lot.It's not the cash you understand, but do need to get some of my cash back as a huge outlay and I've just lost my job, and with the recession and all... Genuine reason for sale so no smart comments or piss takers, genuine offers only please. Selling for a mate, but you can PM for more details. No photos cos I don't need them, I sound good and reasonable in text and others will say how cracking they are without even seeing or knowing me. Link to post Share on other sites
fcuktheban 140 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 I think we should start a poll. There are plenty of other sites that people can sell dogs on that are very stringent if someone is reported. Giving a dog away in the free section sounds alright but having dogs wanted would open the flood gates for the pedlars since all that's done would be in pm. We should make it harder for the pedlars to churn out the puppies. I have and will report pedalers on freeads if they are posting litter after litter and have seen them banned. Eventually it will become too difficult to pedal puppies and they will have to get a new hobby. Link to post Share on other sites
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