fcuktheban 140 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 The pup holding on and not just a quick snap sounds more like she's telling the other dog you are hers. My pup did try to do the same with other dogs but I corrected her and she is over it. When you are around other dogs give them attention and don't allow the pup to break in. She should know you are the boss and she doesn't own you. I'm sure if you perservere it will just be a phase. Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 The pup holding on and not just a quick snap sounds more like she's telling the other dog you are hers. My pup did try to do the same with other dogs but I corrected her and she is over it. When you are around other dogs give them attention and don't allow the pup to break in. She should know you are the boss and she doesn't own you. I'm sure if you perservere it will just be a phase. i feel like a little bitch now, im the puppies bitch, no i will sort it, and i do always give even attention to other dogs, let u no how it goes Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 ps if you want to take bunnies from her mouth as i expect you do later ,dont correct her using your hand bud,,think about it, What do you suggest instead of the hand? As far as i read Patrick pinned the dog down, something i also do with pups, and scruffing them. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 ps if you want to take bunnies from her mouth as i expect you do later ,dont correct her using your hand bud,,think about it, What do you suggest instead of the hand? As far as i read Patrick pinned the dog down, something i also do with pups, and scruffing them. everyone on here will have their own way of dealing with situations like this,,case's like this ,with this young man are avoidable i feel, i dont let them up on things and i dont allow play in the house, its about how the mutt see's his environment , as far as hitting the dog and pining it go ,,i dont,,i have in the past but i think it was a case where its the first and fastest reaction, a dog is the most social animal on earth,,if a mutt is in tune with you, you dont need to raise your voice most times, to be honest i dont do the dominance theory,i dont believe if a dog does this or that he's trying to take over the house,but if you believe in the dominance thinking you will see it in your mutts behavior, slapping and pining the mutt just dont work in a working relationship,and thats what i want to establish with the dog,at no stage in time together would i ever feel it would help,,im not trying to convert anyone but its not the way i feel you'll get the most out of the dog,,because the only time i really need him to respond is when hes offlead and distracted,and you call him and he turns round and gives you that look , ,all the previous history is locked up inside him ,the positive and negative ,what he does next is all down to you and the strength of the bond,,ive tried it the other way and didn't like what i saw,, Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 ps if you want to take bunnies from her mouth as i expect you do later ,dont correct her using your hand bud,,think about it, What do you suggest instead of the hand? As far as i read Patrick pinned the dog down, something i also do with pups, and scruffing them. everyone on here will have their own way of dealing with situations like this,,case's like this ,with this young man are avoidable i feel, i dont let them up on things and i dont allow play in the house, its about how the mutt see's his environment , as far as hitting the dog and pining it go ,,i dont,,i have in the past but i think it was a case where its the first and fastest reaction, a dog is the most social animal on earth,,if a mutt is in tune with you, you dont need to raise your voice most times, to be honest i dont do the dominance theory,i dont believe if a dog does this or that he's trying to take over the house,but if you believe in the dominance thinking you will see it in your mutts behavior, slapping and pining the mutt just dont work in a working relationship,and thats what i want to establish with the dog,at no stage in time together would i ever feel it would help,,im not trying to convert anyone but its not the way i feel you'll get the most out of the dog,,because the only time i really need him to respond is when hes offlead and distracted,and you call him and he turns round and gives you that look , ,all the previous history is locked up inside him ,the positive and negative ,what he does next is all down to you and the strength of the bond,,ive tried it the other way and didn't like what i saw,, understand you mate, but ive been out today with distractions and she come back to me 8/10 re-calls, and still listens to my re calls etc, one event over lots of fun and play, alot of dogs live in the moment i belive and tbh i think its in the past but shes learnt Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 ps if you want to take bunnies from her mouth as i expect you do later ,dont correct her using your hand bud,,think about it, What do you suggest instead of the hand? As far as i read Patrick pinned the dog down, something i also do with pups, and scruffing them. everyone on here will have their own way of dealing with situations like this,,case's like this ,with this young man are avoidable i feel, i dont let them up on things and i dont allow play in the house, its about how the mutt see's his environment , as far as hitting the dog and pining it go ,,i dont,,i have in the past but i think it was a case where its the first and fastest reaction, a dog is the most social animal on earth,,if a mutt is in tune with you, you dont need to raise your voice most times, to be honest i dont do the dominance theory,i dont believe if a dog does this or that he's trying to take over the house,but if you believe in the dominance thinking you will see it in your mutts behavior, slapping and pining the mutt just dont work in a working relationship,and thats what i want to establish with the dog,at no stage in time together would i ever feel it would help,,im not trying to convert anyone but its not the way i feel you'll get the most out of the dog,,because the only time i really need him to respond is when hes offlead and distracted,and you call him and he turns round and gives you that look , ,all the previous history is locked up inside him ,the positive and negative ,what he does next is all down to you and the strength of the bond,,ive tried it the other way and didn't like what i saw,, understand you mate, but ive been out today with distractions and she come back to me 8/10 re-calls, and still listens to my re calls etc, one event over lots of fun and play, alot of dogs live in the moment i belive and tbh i think its in the past but shes learnt good for you bud,and long may it last,dont overdo the recalls, the effectiveness wears on a dog ,keep it for when you need it most, the toughest tests all lie ahead,but if a good understanding develops between you,you shouldn't have many problems you cant overcome,, 1 Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 ps if you want to take bunnies from her mouth as i expect you do later ,dont correct her using your hand bud,,think about it, What do you suggest instead of the hand? As far as i read Patrick pinned the dog down, something i also do with pups, and scruffing them. everyone on here will have their own way of dealing with situations like this,,case's like this ,with this young man are avoidable i feel, i dont let them up on things and i dont allow play in the house, its about how the mutt see's his environment , as far as hitting the dog and pining it go ,,i dont,,i have in the past but i think it was a case where its the first and fastest reaction, a dog is the most social animal on earth,,if a mutt is in tune with you, you dont need to raise your voice most times, to be honest i dont do the dominance theory,i dont believe if a dog does this or that he's trying to take over the house,but if you believe in the dominance thinking you will see it in your mutts behavior, slapping and pining the mutt just dont work in a working relationship,and thats what i want to establish with the dog,at no stage in time together would i ever feel it would help,,im not trying to convert anyone but its not the way i feel you'll get the most out of the dog,,because the only time i really need him to respond is when hes offlead and distracted,and you call him and he turns round and gives you that look , ,all the previous history is locked up inside him ,the positive and negative ,what he does next is all down to you and the strength of the bond,,ive tried it the other way and didn't like what i saw,, Prevention is definitely better than cure, and an understanding of your dog, but there are times when situations will arise, and one did for Patrick and his pup. I think under the circumstances detailed Patrick did an ok job, he did not slap the dog, he simply showed it who was boss in the house and prevented an escalation at the time. For me punishment of unwanted behaviour does work, whether it be a scruff or a sharp 'NO', but it must be coupled with loads of praise for wanted behaviours. Hard to give advice or make assumptions unless you are actually there and see the daily interactions and behaviour 1 Quote Link to post
fcuktheban 140 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 As far as recall you can do it for quite some time when you offer treats and mix it with other training. Pups love the attention and praise. If you make it a game you get the bond and the training down without effort. My dog will now look at me and hope for me to give it a command. Quote Link to post
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