WILF 47,522 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Its just a young dog thing imho........it thinks it can find more than you can show it. Keep showing it stuff on the lamp, make sure the runs are as easy as you can make them, dont be giving it silly impossible slips............pick and chose, if you dont get the right slip then dont slip at all, just go home. Its just my very uneducated opinion, but the dog needs to learn that it only "wins" with you, so keep the stuff easy while he is young........a young dog is just that, young! Thats my 2 penneth, others will know much better than me. Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 If you have never seriously had this problem with your dog you will know its very hard to cure, my first lurcher was bad for it, tried everything but no luck. Just gave her to a pet home in the end. Quote Link to post
WILF 47,522 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I think in this case the dog is still young enough to learn better habits, but in older dogs I agree, its very hard to put right. Quote Link to post
wrighty17 36 Posted August 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 This is also my first lurcher and I'm not sure as how to go about training her certain things Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Soon as any dog starts using its nose on the lamp i think its game over mate my bitch was 12 months old when she started doing it broke my heart the little b*****d lol Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dont beat yourself up over it if you carnt cure it mate looking back it was.the best thing i did getting rid as my dog after her i have had for 10 plus years and was the best dog i have had. Quote Link to post
bird 9,970 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Its just a young dog thing imho........it thinks it can find more than you can show it. Keep showing it stuff on the lamp, make sure the runs are as easy as you can make them, dont be giving it silly impossible slips............pick and chose, if you dont get the right slip then dont slip at all, just go home. Its just my very uneducated opinion, but the dog needs to learn that it only "wins" with you, so keep the stuff easy while he is young........a young dog is just that, young! Thats my 2 penneth, others will know much better than me. spot on . if you give them success (catching) they wont keep looking for there next rabbit or the one that keeps pissing off, because thats what the dog is doing in the lamp looking for the missed rabbit. PICK your rabbits ones right in the mid of the field walkt it right up to it. I did that tonight with my pup and bingo 1 from 1 nice and easy Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,146 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 the dogs still young and the problem can be cured it will be a little bit difficult as its your first lurcher and you are learning the ropes yourself. dogs aint stupid and she/he will soon realise that theres a better chance of catching the one in the beem. just keep at it and the penny should eventally drop. Quote Link to post
reavo2k9 20 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Typical puppy by the sounds of things , patience is a virtue pal Quote Link to post
ulverston moocher 60 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 like been said mate keep at it nice easy slips make sure every thing is in the dogs favour and it will soon click. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 The thing is not to let the dog think it is allowed to behave in the same way at night as it does by day. I sacrifice rabbits for the sake of teaching the dog a new way to operate. Your recall has to be spot on in the day time to begin with, so when I slip the dog at night, of course I expect it to want to do what it does in the day, but I call it back to me. If you are clever, you will have taught your dog what I call the 'urgent' call: a tone of voice which means 'get here quickly because I've found something'. Some people use a hiss between their teeth, which the dog learns you've found something. Some people wed the dog to a toy which they can throw immediately the dog comes to call, so distracting it on to the retrieve toy: you don't throw it far, just a few yards, and the dog gets to retrieve it. A lot depends on the type of dog too: a Saluki type is less likely to want to retrieve a ball when its out hunting than a bull or collie cross for example. I've also bollocked into the dog in a really loud, cross voice if it is the right sort of dog to respond to that attitude: sod spooking the rabbits: they'll be there for next time, and if I have to scream at the dog for a couple of nights, so be it. BUT this doesn't work unless you have a good relationship with the dog in the first place and it needs to respond to you shouting at it otherwise there's no point. It's a difficult one, and without knowing exactly how you and the dog are together, not easy to offer advice on the net. Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,819 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Asd above, what Skycat says is true but it's down to basic reacall training. If you can do that, you're most of the way there. I train mine to come straight back when the lamp goes off, which works most of the time LOL Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 The easiest way if your dog hunts up after a missed rabbit, is to call the dog and if he does not return lamp off and go back to the car and when the dog eventually comes back go home. once the dog realises the game(night) ends when he hunts up( feck off) he will soon come back. But like other have said get the recall as best as you can and get him so easy success. Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Soon as any dog starts using its nose on the lamp i think its game over mate A dog has to use it nose on the lamp, how many times do you send your dog out to a unseen squatter and expect the dog to find it and catch it???!! What you don't want is a dog with it's stern up and it's nose down like a fox hound, but a good lamp dog should use its nose, there is no doubt of that. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 How to stop dogs hunting up any advice will be great thanks you need to get the dog to see you as instrumental to its drive process, that means that the dog must equate coming back to you as a way of getting to chase rabbits again ,as some lads have already said and rightly so ,the more you work the dog the more it will figure it out, that is because a dog in drive , is a dog whose senses are making connections at a super canine rate ,much faster than when its at ease,, it also works because its the best rate of expenditure of energy,and to the mutt thats right up there in its portfolio for survival, inherited from its wild ancestors, recall if not trained in drive in this case is not going to overrule his drive while out ,folk think because the dog comes in the house or in the garden to his name he's trained ,he's not, because there are no distractions,no bunnies running round in the back garden, ,,the method you use for training recall is going to be the deciding factor whether the mutt listens or continues hunting ,,praise and treats are a complete waste of time with that dog ,,you need to get a handle on him ,something that appeals to his prey drive,because thats his strongest pull ,not you not treats none off that stuff , start getting drive from him through tug items,,he needs to be able to express drive in close proximity to you, in your space,,think about it for a minute everytime he's in drive he's going away from you,chasing something, if he can equate the mood of being in drive with you beside him ,you will start making progress ,, there are other posts on here about getting a dog to play tug and letting him win ,, it will start focusing the mutt on you and making that association between him in that mood/ frame of mind/feeling and you,, 1 Quote Link to post
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