Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 As a pig dog,there`s a lot better than the APBT.The Argentinians bred the dogos to make the ultimate BIG GAME hunting dog.Bull terriers were around for them at that time,but were deemed inadequate(too small).The Australians NQ Bullhound was bred from EBT,American bulldog and Great Dane,again APBT deemed as inadequate.The Texans use American Bulldogs and Dogos for pig hunting.Fact.....the APBT is a small(but game dog) that is not as a lot on here believe a jack of all trades. How many "Texans" do you know? I know quite a few of them who catch quite a few hogs and I aint never heard them tell of a dogo nor an "American" bulldog, whatever the f**k that's supposed to be. Well here's a Texan that just hunted with dogos last week. 4 dogos were wrecked and my male jagdterrier killed on different nights. So believe me there are plenty of dogos and different dogs down here. Plenty of American ulldogs too. Come down and have a hunt with us sometime. See for yourself. You'll see pits, dogos, American bulldogs, and a sh*t ton of crosses. Catahoula x dogo and AB x dogo crosses are becoming popular. Some guys in the plains and out further west are starting to use stags. See some ridgeback and ridgeback crosses here and there. Guys use different dogs to suit their terrain and style. The pigs are always evolving and becoming tougher prey. So people are continually trying to adapt their hunting methods and dogs to them. Back here in East Texas the pit is still king though. A good pit lead in catch dog is easier and cheaper to find then anything else. You must be lying,Dan Edwards says that nobody hunts with Dogos in Texas.Ha Ha Ha Is that what I said? Link to post
Guest sam Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 As a pig dog,there`s a lot better than the APBT.The Argentinians bred the dogos to make the ultimate BIG GAME hunting dog.Bull terriers were around for them at that time,but were deemed inadequate(too small).The Australians NQ Bullhound was bred from EBT,American bulldog and Great Dane,again APBT deemed as inadequate.The Texans use American Bulldogs and Dogos for pig hunting.Fact.....the APBT is a small(but game dog) that is not as a lot on here believe a jack of all trades. How many "Texans" do you know? I know quite a few of them who catch quite a few hogs and I aint never heard them tell of a dogo nor an "American" bulldog, whatever the f**k that's supposed to be. Well here's a Texan that just hunted with dogos last week. 4 dogos were wrecked and my male jagdterrier killed on different nights. So believe me there are plenty of dogos and different dogs down here. Plenty of American ulldogs too. Come down and have a hunt with us sometime. See for yourself. You'll see pits, dogos, American bulldogs, and a sh*t ton of crosses. Catahoula x dogo and AB x dogo crosses are becoming popular. Some guys in the plains and out further west are starting to use stags. See some ridgeback and ridgeback crosses here and there. Guys use different dogs to suit their terrain and style. The pigs are always evolving and becoming tougher prey. So people are continually trying to adapt their hunting methods and dogs to them. Back here in East Texas the pit is still king though. A good pit lead in catch dog is easier and cheaper to find then anything else. You must be lying,Dan Edwards says that nobody hunts with Dogos in Texas.Ha Ha Ha Is that what I said? so for you lads dan its the pitbull,rather then the dogo or american bulldog Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 I am not a hog hunter but most of the for real deal hog hunters will agree with that statement and so would machine up above. Link to post
machine73 9 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) I am not a hog hunter but most of the for real deal hog hunters will agree with that statement and so would machine up above. Yes I would agree that statement is pretty much true. At least where I live. In other countires and locales in the US people may prefer other dogs for catch dogs. But the most common type of catch dog here is a pit. And those that hunt with a pit use them as a lead in catch dog. Other types of catch dogs ARE used but it comes down to what's effective for that person's style of hunting, habits of the pigs in the area, terrain, and really what that person likes. My hunting buddy uses only dogos. Because that's what he LIKES. He used to have a jam up pit as well... just decided he wanted to concentrate on dogos and sold the pit. He uses the dogos as running catch dogs. Suits his style. Suits his terrain. Curs are generally used for strike and bay dogs. Though some people here and in different parts of the country use hounds. An even smaller number use jagdterriers. Edited August 26, 2011 by machine73 Link to post
machine73 9 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 On the original topic, what would anyone hope to gain by crossing in dogo? GOOD working dogos aren't all that easy to find here where a lot of people are actively hunting them and trying to breed good dogs. Wouldn't it be next to impossible to find proven stock where ya'll are? I'm not trying to be an @ss. I'm really asking because I am totally ignorant of your situation. Sean Link to post
skinner 348 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 They managed! Exactly, the bull means you can do it. Tbh I think all lurchers that aint got bull in em shud be put sleep what a nob 1 Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 On the original topic, what would anyone hope to gain by crossing in dogo? GOOD working dogos aren't all that easy to find here where a lot of people are actively hunting them and trying to breed good dogs. Wouldn't it be next to impossible to find proven stock where ya'll are? I'm not trying to be an @ss. I'm really asking because I am totally ignorant of your situation. Sean You aint all that ignorant. Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Fire one over a 34" deerhound bitch and BOSH! ........ Single handed red stag dogs! Yeah right You wouldnt appreciate a dog of this caliber . They use fox brushes and bog role and stag antlers as toothpicks. Bull crosses will be forgotten about inside a fortnight. dogos are known jackers good game dogo blood over here is rocking horse shit as is good pit blood an i know a few dogo owners over here so have more of an idea what there made of Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Sooner be bummed in a broom cupboard than own a dogo lurcher........... sounds like summat yad enjoy lol Link to post
turk 09 28 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 put a pic ov the dogo up if u can pal Link to post
lietome 138 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 (edited) dont see how a dogo x greyhound wouldnt be usefull, how game does a 80lb+ dog have to be to handle 15lb fox Edited August 27, 2011 by lietome Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 dont see how a dogo x greyhound wouldnt be usefull, how game does a 80lb+ dog have to be to handle 15lb fox gamer than you think pal some hard foxes out there pal an some poor dogos that arent worthy of the title Link to post
red pit boar dog 13 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Quite simply ...the bull was/is used purely for its do or die attitude...not for its holding power as is the Dogo,s job..Proper bulls have been bred for hundreds of years solely for the die trying attitude that imo would not be in the dogo...There are way more show type Dogo,s than there are pure workers..and thats a fact not a half assed guess..to put it bluntly..the dogo x would produce way more quitters/jackers than a well bred half x bull would produce...why do you think not many pure bulls (apbt) are worked on hogs or big cats...because the little critters try to kill everything they come across..not just hold it...atb stabba i seen a video of a dogo killing a mountain lion couldnt see a fox causeing it 2 much trouble.think they prefer the dogo over the pit cause the pit dont have the weight 2 hold the boars. mate my pits hold masive boars 1 out no worrys i would love to give a dogo a run and would love to see how the x goes. it comes down to good dogman have you ever seen a pit work or are you just a media sheep and i could not ask for beter pig dogs or i would own it they are smart as colies and highly tranable hard as nails and do the job just fine all my dogs are 100% stoke prof and great famly pets not the killing machines people make out. Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Quite simply ...the bull was/is used purely for its do or die attitude...not for its holding power as is the Dogo,s job..Proper bulls have been bred for hundreds of years solely for the die trying attitude that imo would not be in the dogo...There are way more show type Dogo,s than there are pure workers..and thats a fact not a half assed guess..to put it bluntly..the dogo x would produce way more quitters/jackers than a well bred half x bull would produce...why do you think not many pure bulls (apbt) are worked on hogs or big cats...because the little critters try to kill everything they come across..not just hold it...atb stabba i seen a video of a dogo killing a mountain lion couldnt see a fox causeing it 2 much trouble.think they prefer the dogo over the pit cause the pit dont have the weight 2 hold the boars. mate my pits hold masive boars 1 out no worrys i would love to give a dogo a run and would love to see how the x goes. it comes down to good dogman have you ever seen a pit work or are you just a media sheep and i could not ask for beter pig dogs or i would own it they are smart as colies and highly tranable hard as nails and do the job just fine all my dogs are 100% stoke prof and great famly pets not the killing machines people make out. yes but do your pits try to kill the boars or are they catch and hold dogs ?? Link to post
red pit boar dog 13 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 If it does the job who cares what breed it is. Iv got some pics of dogo x AB I'll put up later. i agree. i have had 100s of breeds of dogs and x i would be keen to see them thanks sean from ozz Link to post
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