stamina in bull breeds

[worldruler 58]

Ok I have seen this pop up on various occassions, and would like to have a wee say on it, I have a large staffie bout 20inches and 50lbs(kept in trim) he is a great wee dog with a super nose on him, and has caught various stuff including a few rabbits, rats, this years grouse and even a full grown goose, however his main joy in life is chasing deer (never a hope in hell of even getting near one) but he gives it his all, now the other day we were out on the hills as usual and he had 4 runs on deer each lasting about a half hour(i am not hunting deer, btw just loads around up here and miles away from anyone else so the dog has a free run) eventually on the fourth occassion he came back after 40 minutes and this time he was proper screwed, back legs shaking and a wee bit wobbly, but I was very proud of his efforts after reading all about how poor bull breeds and bull cross stamina is. Just wondering if poor stamina is a huge issue with bull cross?

[Bosun11 537]

Think the simple answer to that would be, depending on the bull blood used and the physical standard you keep your dog.

[worldruler 58]

my dog is a bit of a staffie mutt really his dad was a kc dog but a bit bigger than average, the bitch came over from ireland and was a leggy dog, so not sure about his lines, seems to want to hunt all the time though,runs beside me on the bike a couple times a week too, so I would say he is in good condidtion, only thing is he is as blind as a bat a rabbit could be 10 feet away and if he dosent sent it it dosent exist, would love to have a pup out of him cos he is a great wee dog with people to but no one else up here really interested in hunting (all sheep dogs and crofters)

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

a proper bull is an awesome athlete

[worldruler 58]

well from what I have seen I would say they are, he can easily jump a 5ft gate, suppose if I could add anything it would be a wee bit more leg and some turning ability, but then again I could just get a lurcher haha

[3 Turns 326]

ALRIGHT MATE.

IVE A SAL/BULL/GREW AND IVE PERSONNALY SEEN HIM RUN COLLIE/GREWS,AND 3Q DOGS INTO THE GROUND ON DEER.

STAMINA /GRIT .

NEVER SEEN HIM BOTTLE OR GIVE UP.

HES A KEEPER THOUGH.

[Simoman 110]

Think the simple answer to that would be, depending on the bull blood used and the physical standard you keep your dog.

 

This reply tells you everything you need to know

[JoshWalter 3]

40 minutes is a long time for any staffy to chace any thing, i bet your very proud.

i had been out in the woods and feilds near me for about 3 hours with my staffie bitch throing sticks letting her swim and what not, any way on the way home we were both pretty tired allready when all of a sudden we came across something, she took off strait after it and chased it for about 10 minutes but it got down a hole we were both pretty knackered after that one, she was only a pup (6 month) at the time, i was very proud of her.

atb josh.

[Westy76 546]

a proper bull is an awesome athlete

What he said,mine will go all day and night given half a chance

[rocky1 942]

my young bullx deerhound,grey has bundles of stamina when i take him out on the bike he their with wheel ,i could 10/15 mile ride i would never leave side ,then after i,ve stop for a rest he still bounceing he hardly never drink when out of breath for some reason,i,ve seen him tire once and was on the bike in the heat doing abit circuit training and push the dogs abit much ,he did,nt stop he slowed behind the bike but then he came again with a second wind ,so like someone said the right blood and yes

[Stabs 3]

There are different types of stamina though and people can often lose sight of that. A good collie will work a hill all day long and shows phenominal stamina. A good bull could go over two hours in the square and show astounding stamina. The resultant hybrid when you breed these types to sighthounds and stick them behind a hare is often a different proposition though. Different types of stamina. The thing with a lot of bull breeds is that some people do a lot of resistance training with them, thereby building up the wrong type of muscle - oxygen sapping muscle when it comes to longevity in the working arena.

[skycat 6,173]

Agree with Stabs: and also you have to consider what the dog was originally created for. Bull breeds weren't bred to gallop for miles, unlike sighthounds. They are a different shape altogether. Compare a human marathon runner with a shot putter for example. the bones, muscles and joints have all been developed for completely different jobs. In lurchers, when crossing two very opposite breeds together you are bound to get some litter wastage: dogs which are neither one thing nor the other. If you are lucky you'll get a dog which can gallop a bit and be strong as well. I saw a very nice little Bull cross bitch coursing a hare a while back: she ran the hare well, intelligently and with masses of drive and commitment, but had that hare not balled up badly on sticky ground she'd have never had a chance of catching it. She did catch it, but as the owner would agree, she wasn't the correct type of dog for that job and got lucky on the day.

[bird 9,898]

There are different types of stamina though and people can often lose sight of that. A good collie will work a hill all day long and shows phenominal stamina. A good bull could go over two hours in the square and show astounding stamina. The resultant hybrid when you breed these types to sighthounds and stick them behind a hare is often a different proposition though. Different types of stamina. The thing with a lot of bull breeds is that some people do a lot of resistance training with them, thereby building up the wrong type of muscle - oxygen sapping muscle when it comes to longevity in the working arena.

 

spot on, when ever you hybrid the breeds to a greyhound, you never get the same stamina from the original breeds. !

[KevO 42]

4 runs , 3 of them lasting 30 min each and forth 40 minutes what do you want from your dog?

[worldruler 58]

dont want any more from him mate, just saying thats what he did, what the post was intended to suggest was that he seems to buck any trend that bull breeds have towards a lack of stamina, will post a couple of videos of him when I can