Guest born to run1083 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 bit of a question hypothetical scenario in hight of season a dog crashes cover recklessly but catches say 3 or 4 more a night or day but gets heavy injured so has to be layed up for a month will he catch more in total through the season then the careful dog who doesn't get injured and puts consistent rates night and day with no lay up? pros and cons to both but I like a dog to run to the hedge but not crash it out right like a grey would. suppose each to our own Quote Link to post
jf1970 328 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 bit of a question hypothetical scenario in hight of season a dog crashes cover recklessly but catches say 3 or 4 more a night or day but gets heavy injured so has to be layed up for a month will he catch more in total through the season then the careful dog who doesn't get injured and puts consistent rates night and day with no lay up? pros and cons to both but I like a dog to run to the hedge but not crash it out right like a grey would. suppose each to our own good question, i would say at best both dogs would even out on there catches, but i would still prefer one that isn't as reckless and uses their brain. Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 bit of a question hypothetical scenario in hight of season a dog crashes cover recklessly but catches say 3 or 4 more a night or day but gets heavy injured so has to be layed up for a month will he catch more in total through the season then the careful dog who doesn't get injured and puts consistent rates night and day with no lay up? pros and cons to both but I like a dog to run to the hedge but not crash it out right like a grey would. suppose each to our own good question, i would say at best both dogs would even out on there catches, but i would still prefer one that isn't as reckless and uses their brain. yeah same here like tiny said to have a hunting brain Quote Link to post
jf1970 328 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 bit of a question hypothetical scenario in hight of season a dog crashes cover recklessly but catches say 3 or 4 more a night or day but gets heavy injured so has to be layed up for a month will he catch more in total through the season then the careful dog who doesn't get injured and puts consistent rates night and day with no lay up? pros and cons to both but I like a dog to run to the hedge but not crash it out right like a grey would. suppose each to our own good question, i would say at best both dogs would even out on there catches, but i would still prefer one that isn't as reckless and uses their brain. yeah same here like tiny said to have a hunting brain would be interesting to hear if anyone had/has or knows someone that has a dog thats stopped crashing cover due to it being injured regularly? Quote Link to post
mighty celt 996 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 my bitch hits them in a sencieble manner and i wouldnt have it any other way had a collie cross years ago used 2 hit them like a train but did pick up alot of injuries.if im honest i wouldnt keep a dog that slowed right up comeing 2 a ditch.a clever dog with a good heart will hit them just not that hard.a dog that slows right up might be clever 2 but lackeing in heart. Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,821 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 My elder dog (4YO) hits it hard sometimes, sometimes not. Depends on whether he feels he's "on" or not. You guys only have one trick ponies? Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 I like my dog with the sense to know not to hit cover, i spent too much money last season getting both of them stitched up. she has learned this summer to lay off what she wont catch. if you want your dog to do or die its up to you but i would like a few seasons out of my dog before its knackered Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,821 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Like I said, sometimes he hits, sometimes he doesn't. 11 Month old bitch, hits it every time. She'll learrn. Thats the difference between LURCHERS and lurchers. Cheers again, D. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 ALl this, it's up to you if you want this or that, etc etc, makes it sound like the dogman has any bearing on the hedge crashing? I'd love to know how that comes about. As far as i was aware, it was very much down to the dog and there is f**k all you can do to stop your hedge crashing dog, crashing hedges, other than not working it? I'd love a dog that got it just right and never got injured, wouldn't we all? But it's not my choice. D - what do you mean, that's the difference between LURCHERS and lurchers, does it make the dog better or more sensible when you put it's type in bold print? Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,333 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 most kills are at fence and cover 1 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,821 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 ALl this, it's up to you if you want this or that, etc etc, makes it sound like the dogman has any bearing on the hedge crashing? I'd love to know how that comes about. As far as i was aware, it was very much down to the dog and there is f**k all you can do to stop your hedge crashing dog, crashing hedges, other than not working it? I'd love a dog that got it just right and never got injured, wouldn't we all? But it's not my choice. D - what do you mean, that's the difference between LURCHERS and lurchers, does it make the dog better or more sensible when you put it's type in bold print? Not sayin' I've got anything special but there's lurchers and LURCHERS, I was of the opinion that you'd been in " the game" long enough to know the difference. Oh well, never mind Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 ALl this, it's up to you if you want this or that, etc etc, makes it sound like the dogman has any bearing on the hedge crashing? I'd love to know how that comes about. As far as i was aware, it was very much down to the dog and there is f**k all you can do to stop your hedge crashing dog, crashing hedges, other than not working it? I'd love a dog that got it just right and never got injured, wouldn't we all? But it's not my choice. D - what do you mean, that's the difference between LURCHERS and lurchers, does it make the dog better or more sensible when you put it's type in bold print? your right mate they either do it or not each dog is different, I don't think less of a dog either way round. all dogs have different running styles 1 Quote Link to post
nitestalker 28 209 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 bit of a question hypothetical scenario in hight of season a dog crashes cover recklessly but catches say 3 or 4 more a night or day but gets heavy injured so has to be layed up for a month will he catch more in total through the season then the careful dog who doesn't get injured and puts consistent rates night and day with no lay up? pros and cons to both but I like a dog to run to the hedge but not crash it out right like a grey would. suppose each to our own good question, i would say at best both dogs would even out on there catches, but i would still prefer one that isn't as reckless and uses their brain. yeah same here like tiny said to have a hunting brain would be interesting to hear if anyone had/has or knows someone that has a dog thats stopped crashing cover due to it being injured regularly? had a whippet xcollie xhound very good rabbit dog day an nite always hit cover an had a very gud catch rate after 3 seasons he stopped hittin completly wud not touch cover had his fair share of stiches but nt a real bad injury his catch rate got f****d i had enough and let him on to a young lad starting out jus got sick of missing so much at cover hav me weaton x hound goin well now he misses very little let it be fox or rabbit u no he wont be stoppin up Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Saw a dog try and follow a fox through a fence ....the fence was one of those metal spar jobs with the spars about 5" between them. The fox passed through without breaking stride the Dog was killed outright. Just a thought for all those owners with the injured dogs.... Catch rate was mentioned but a dog that's laid up won't catch jack. Sooner or later a dog that's took a few knocks will learn to run canny near hedges or fences...the ones that don't learn end up dead or crippled. 1 Quote Link to post
jf1970 328 Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 bit of a question hypothetical scenario in hight of season a dog crashes cover recklessly but catches say 3 or 4 more a night or day but gets heavy injured so has to be layed up for a month will he catch more in total through the season then the careful dog who doesn't get injured and puts consistent rates night and day with no lay up? pros and cons to both but I like a dog to run to the hedge but not crash it out right like a grey would. suppose each to our own good question, i would say at best both dogs would even out on there catches, but i would still prefer one that isn't as reckless and uses their brain. yeah same here like tiny said to have a hunting brain would be interesting to hear if anyone had/has or knows someone that has a dog thats stopped crashing cover due to it being injured regularly? had a whippet xcollie xhound very good rabbit dog day an nite always hit cover an had a very gud catch rate after 3 seasons he stopped hittin completly wud not touch cover had his fair share of stiches but nt a real bad injury his catch rate got f****d i had enough and let him on to a young lad starting out jus got sick of missing so much at cover hav me weaton x hound goin well now he misses very little let it be fox or rabbit u no he wont be stoppin up how old was the dog when it started to not crash into cover.? Quote Link to post
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