mushroom 13,491 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 i would imagine it dont matter what server,or how much you cover your tracks.if the goverment wanted to see what you were looking,talking about.it would be a piece of piss to them.they have some of the best hackers on thier payroll.and a cpl of obscure hunters aint gonna stop them thats for sure.yes chimp there are certain words if said or typed will flag up somewhere. Am afraid your wrong on this mate, obviously anything written on here can be accessed however in relation to your IP address being tracked the TOR network that I mentioned before these are not under any one persons or governments control (some of them may be accessible to them but not all), any internet active system can participate in this giant network of anonymous systems (some more anonymous then others) for example you or I or ahmed in afgan could install this software on our/their own PCs and also participate in this network of anonymous systems. As the order in which internet traffic passes changes all the time. Even if the gov could access logs on some of these systems this would only be a very small part of the picture and significantly less then they would need to locate you. In relation to the gov having the best hackers on their payroll there may be some isolated instances where very capable people end up there but on the whole the salaries offered by MI5 and other security services are pitiful compared to market value of these people and as such they tend to choose to work elsewhere. If it was that easy to track /locate all people doing illegal stuff then cyber crime could be stopped in its entirety virtually over night and Cyber crime overtook international drug smuggling in terms of revenue for the past few years despite governments best efforts and initiatives etc. What happens in reality is the internet savy people/fraudsters/hackers avoid getting caught on the whole and others posting picture of dead foxes and dont know how to protect their identity get a knock on the door. I use tor quite a lot but not on here as I only participate in the legal torture and murder of defenceless foxy woxys so have nothing to hide But I will ask this question how do I set up tor so that it exits (ie gives me a final ip as a uk one) in the uk so I can watch Iplayer, 4od etc???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Well if you guys think you can hide think again ...The internet is used to track paedophiles around the world and if you put up the defenses like the TOR add on i'm sure stuff like this would be flagged ..you not think they would track mozilla to see who is downloading this stuff. Personally my experience of the net and who's brother is a military sysyems advisor will tell you this. I let him hack my computer through a hardware firewalled router and my computer using norton 2009 security suite at the time and it took him all 5 mins if that .. The internet is used to track peodophiles some of them even successfully. Often when they are tracked its through other stuff on the peripheral such credit card payments or through being raided for other stuff and having equipment confiscated which then allows them access to more information then they would have by just having internet based logs. If you mess around long enough with the law you are likely to leave a trail that can eventually be followed... Of course if this is for something like peodophila then law enforcement are going to be slightly more motivated to find you. The numbers of people downloading the tor plug in will be vast and a large amount of these will be people who never enable it or know it is there. Regardless of the anti virus or firewalls used some systems are easily hackable depending on the specifics of the systems such as configuration, patches, open services, inappropriate user rights etc often with very accessible and simple to use systems or software. Other systems however are not atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Also to add to this I have not advocated using this in order to post illegal stuff on here or anywhere else, just stated that when it comes to simple 'web browsing' it can be mabe anonymous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 i would imagine it dont matter what server,or how much you cover your tracks.if the goverment wanted to see what you were looking,talking about.it would be a piece of piss to them.they have some of the best hackers on thier payroll.and a cpl of obscure hunters aint gonna stop them thats for sure.yes chimp there are certain words if said or typed will flag up somewhere. Am afraid your wrong on this mate, obviously anything written on here can be accessed however in relation to your IP address being tracked the TOR network that I mentioned before these are not under any one persons or governments control (some of them may be accessible to them but not all), any internet active system can participate in this giant network of anonymous systems (some more anonymous then others) for example you or I or ahmed in afgan could install this software on our/their own PCs and also participate in this network of anonymous systems. As the order in which internet traffic passes changes all the time. Even if the gov could access logs on some of these systems this would only be a very small part of the picture and significantly less then they would need to locate you. In relation to the gov having the best hackers on their payroll there may be some isolated instances where very capable people end up there but on the whole the salaries offered by MI5 and other security services are pitiful compared to market value of these people and as such they tend to choose to work elsewhere. If it was that easy to track /locate all people doing illegal stuff then cyber crime could be stopped in its entirety virtually over night and Cyber crime overtook international drug smuggling in terms of revenue for the past few years despite governments best efforts and initiatives etc. What happens in reality is the internet savy people/fraudsters/hackers avoid getting caught on the whole and others posting picture of dead foxes and dont know how to protect their identity get a knock on the door. I use tor quite a lot but not on here as I only participate in the legal torture and murder of defenceless foxy woxys so have nothing to hide But I will ask this question how do I set up tor so that it exits (ie gives me a final ip as a uk one) in the uk so I can watch Iplayer, 4od etc???? I dont know how without looking into it mate, or even if its even possible, what I would do as a work round is set up an additional proxy within firefox which is UK based then switch to it using the options at the bottom right of the screen to the UK proxy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,013 Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Well if you guys think you can hide think again ...The internet is used to track paedophiles around the world and if you put up the defenses like the TOR add on i'm sure stuff like this would be flagged ..you not think they would track mozilla to see who is downloading this stuff. Personally my experience of the net and who's brother is a military sysyems advisor will tell you this. I let him hack my computer through a hardware firewalled router and my computer using norton 2009 security suite at the time and it took him all 5 mins if that .. thats what i thought , the Government+ Police could find what ever you put on net+site. Nobody safe i would have thought,? Regards any hunting site, i suppose its what there priorities are (that) day, either chase up a few illegal hunting pics +post, or catch a paedophiles or stop riots in the UK, I think most know the answer to that.? But the post was about what we put on the net , me included Bog roll and its 26 years in the game this year .!! and just goes to show you still meet wankers after 26 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,491 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 i would imagine it dont matter what server,or how much you cover your tracks.if the goverment wanted to see what you were looking,talking about.it would be a piece of piss to them.they have some of the best hackers on thier payroll.and a cpl of obscure hunters aint gonna stop them thats for sure.yes chimp there are certain words if said or typed will flag up somewhere. Am afraid your wrong on this mate, obviously anything written on here can be accessed however in relation to your IP address being tracked the TOR network that I mentioned before these are not under any one persons or governments control (some of them may be accessible to them but not all), any internet active system can participate in this giant network of anonymous systems (some more anonymous then others) for example you or I or ahmed in afgan could install this software on our/their own PCs and also participate in this network of anonymous systems. As the order in which internet traffic passes changes all the time. Even if the gov could access logs on some of these systems this would only be a very small part of the picture and significantly less then they would need to locate you. In relation to the gov having the best hackers on their payroll there may be some isolated instances where very capable people end up there but on the whole the salaries offered by MI5 and other security services are pitiful compared to market value of these people and as such they tend to choose to work elsewhere. If it was that easy to track /locate all people doing illegal stuff then cyber crime could be stopped in its entirety virtually over night and Cyber crime overtook international drug smuggling in terms of revenue for the past few years despite governments best efforts and initiatives etc. What happens in reality is the internet savy people/fraudsters/hackers avoid getting caught on the whole and others posting picture of dead foxes and dont know how to protect their identity get a knock on the door. I use tor quite a lot but not on here as I only participate in the legal torture and murder of defenceless foxy woxys so have nothing to hide But I will ask this question how do I set up tor so that it exits (ie gives me a final ip as a uk one) in the uk so I can watch Iplayer, 4od etc???? I dont know how without looking into it mate, or even if its even possible, what I would do as a work round is set up an additional proxy within firefox which is UK based then switch to it using the options at the bottom right of the screen to the UK proxy Any chance of you walking me through it mate?? Pm if you prefer Kie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chimp 299 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 bloody hell , dont tell my firm that you can hide in cyberspace otherwise im out of a job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bogger 243 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 :laugh: theres worse out there than me birdy, i might be a wanker, your not the first person to say that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 bloody hell , dont tell my firm that you can hide in cyberspace otherwise im out of a job as said previously in terms of anonymous web browsing yes you can anonymise your source IP address. Example if you are hell bent on uploading a picture of a dead fox, this could be done anonymously In terms of performing ongoing illegal activities online using various different methods, communicating with numerous different people/systems using different methods then eventually it will create a paper trail which can then be tracked. Example Running an international fraud using different groups of different people (with different levels of technical skill sets) and different approaches to keeping stuff secure, using different methods of communication such as email, web, text etc... with different amounts of stupidity in terms of bragging to friends then they will eventually be caught through the ensuing paper trail all this involves, providing the authorities have sufficient motivation to catch them of course. mushroom I will send you a pm later in the day, have to crack on with work now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LUMPHAMMER 324 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 :ninja: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bogger 243 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 wed prob get on well in person bird aslong as you dont repeat your self like you do on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyfr1968 772 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 id say iphones were even easier mate as they all have there own identity number That makes sense. It's just that someone told me that smart phone's are popular with scammers because they are hard to trace. Some toad tried to scam me not so long ago on ebay and all comunication from them was via an iPhone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Or stay within the law and dont say anything daft!!!!! Always amazes me why folk boast about what they get upto and why would they care what somebody sat on a laptop they have never met thinks of them or there dogs....................... Because 9 times out of 10 there will be a litter of pups for sale at the end of it... Edited August 17, 2011 by AKA-BRINDLE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Ray was a redcoat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I'm sure the police have dedicated officers that only deal day in day out with internet crime only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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