shotgun help!!!!

[peter osborne 1]

hi guys and girls, i am looking at purchasing my first shotgun to shoot the odd clay but manly game, i have own air rifles but that was a few year ago now, so this is me just getting back into field sports again so was looking for some advice on the best way to go about getting licence, what would be a decent gun to buy, i would rather get something that is decent rather than saying in 2 years time this gun shit need a new one lol . also if any one knows the best way to get some land to shoot on up in the north east, i had thought about a syndicate but i know that can be expensive and i would prefer to do some wild, rough shooting so can take the dog with me.

peter

[HUnter_zero 58]

First step would be to visit a clay pigeon shooting club.

 

 

John

[peter osborne 1]

yeah john shot clays a good few times now never asked any advice from them though, just asked a bit about the guns thats all.

cheers.

[Alycidon 2]

Agreed, you need to be able to hit anything you shoot at, waste of time, effort and money otherwise. Game shooting then joining a syndicate is the best way forward, if you cant run to that then working as a beater should get you an end of season day and after a year or two maybe access to pigeons etc on the shoot.

 

Gun wise buy a used Beretta, Miroku or Browning, if you are of average size and build then 28 inch barrels. All those makes will if looked after outlast you, for what you want a game gun will be fine, 12 bore would initially be best but of you are approching 60 then look at a 20 bore. If you do go 20 bore then a another inch or two on the barrels wont do any harm.

 

A

[The Duncan 802]

12 bores kick less than 20's

[peter osborne 1]

cheers guys well under 60 so 12 bore should be fine lol have already set the motion running to becoming a beater at the local shoots so starting to get the foot in to the door as they say.

[Ratsmasher 36]

12 bores kick less than 20's

you might want to double check that one mate

[Alycidon 2]

Felt recoil depends on two things, one the weight of the gun and two the weight ( and speed) of shot that is being fired. Put 30gr loads through a light 20 and its going to be unpleasant for most people if they are going through a few.

 

For general shooting using a light or medium weight o/u 12 bore then 30gr of shot is ideal, I have used most loads down to 24gr on driven partridges one day. All kill well given good placement. With a 20 then 24/26gr loads would be better suited.

 

Do not make the common novices mistake of thinking the more lead I can put up there the more likely that something will fall down. Most of us go down that road only to find that it makes no difference if we used 26gr or 36gr, it still needs accurate placement which is where the need for a series of lessons come in.

 

A

[gadge 2]

I was always told to buy sporter because they are an alrounder,price is all down to you if you live in the norteast there is plenty of places to go and have alook at guns get afeel of them and take advise off the staff,Also there was a guy on here who had places for a syndicate.But for land to shoot its the same old storey for everyone we are all looking for some.

[The Duncan 802]

12 bores kick less than 20's

you might want to double check that one mate

I've used both and find the kick less pronounced on a 12 than on a 20. Probably because 12's tend to be a tad heavier.

[Elmer Fudd 2011 39]

yeah keep away from hatsan escorts sime auto they are crap and scrap only good for holding the shed door open

[HUnter_zero 58]

yeah keep away from hatsan escorts sime auto they are crap and scrap only good for holding the shed door open

 

 

Would have to disagree with this. I have owned many shotguns, and currently own an original Escort. I can not fault the gun at all.

 

John

[Ratsmasher 36]

12 bores kick less than 20's

you might want to double check that one mate

I've used both and find the kick less pronounced on a 12 than on a 20. Probably because 12's tend to be a tad heavier.

yeah sorry I was a bit quick off te blocks there

what I meant is that the 12b cart kicks more but obviously if you are using a heavy gun or a semi it would feel less then a side by side 20 or something

[jackinbox99 41]

First id workout what i want to use the gun for the most. If your doing clays the most, game shooting or pigeon shooting. For clays / pigeon id go for a semi auto, they are ideal for that. If your going to be doing game shooting, then some shoots frown upon a semi. Brand wise, something like beretta or benelli or browning etc... will all hold their value well. Thats not to say they are any better than a cheaper brand, but price wise, they just hold their value better.

 

If you buy 2nd hand, then you`ll have a wider choice and a lot of that depreciation will have happened. If you need a semi, id look at the beretta 391 or a similar benelli. For an o/u lanber is a cracking gun for the money. They are cheap now too. Again, beretta and browning etc... offer nice o/u`s but for a premium. Id also get multichoke if you can as you can then use it for nearly anything.

 

The comments on the Hatsan Escort made me laugh. They really are a marmite gun. Ive not seen another gun on here have so many people either hate it or love it. They are cheap, so in theory you could buy one for clays / pigeons and still have change for an o/u.