shootingmadgeorge 6 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 my favourite method of carp fishing is by far surface fishing, but recently i have had about six big carp take my bait but the hook aint setting??/ what am i doing wrong?!?! Quote Link to post
andyp 9 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 How are you hooking the bait, hair rig, bait band, or direct into it, are you using a controller or just freelining? Quote Link to post
shootingmadgeorge 6 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 How are you hooking the bait, hair rig, bait band, or direct into it, are you using a controller or just freelining? im bait banding it and im just using a normal float?!? Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I used fox bolt bubbles with a short greased leader and never really had that problem since. Crumpets hooked directly are tough and you can have multiple missed takes with them, only striking when you see the bubble move. A tight line between rod tip and float also speeds up the strike hope that helps atb tom. Quote Link to post
andyp 9 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 When i surface fish for Carp i try and use a controller when ever possible, the bubble floats are really good as you can put water in them for casting weight and they don't seem to spook the fish as much as the normal type of controller, I use about 4-6ft of line between the hook and bubble float, and normally when you get a bite the fish pulls against the bubble float and sets the hook almost like a bolt rig. If I freeline a bait to a carp when stalking them i wait for the line to move before setting the hook. What bait are you using for them? Quote Link to post
shootingmadgeorge 6 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 When i surface fish for Carp i try and use a controller when ever possible, the bubble floats are really good as you can put water in them for casting weight and they don't seem to spook the fish as much as the normal type of controller, I use about 4-6ft of line between the hook and bubble float, and normally when you get a bite the fish pulls against the bubble float and sets the hook almost like a bolt rig. If I freeline a bait to a carp when stalking them i wait for the line to move before setting the hook. What bait are you using for them? dog biscuit not really sure what else to use??? Quote Link to post
andyp 9 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 If i use dog biscuits i put them into a measuring jug, top them up with hot water and let them soak for 5 mins, pour the hot water away and place the dog biscuits in a plastic bag, add any falvouringd or colours at this stage if required, then squeeze as much air out as possible then put them in the fridge and leave them overnight, when you come to use them you will find they have a spongy- rubberry texture and you can hook them direct either as singles, or if using a larger hook use pairs, if done this way they don't seem to absorb water either. Other surface baits you can use are Crusty bread, either the crust itself or the white centre, Dog biscuits, Marshmallows -- they go nuts for these and they stay on the hook really well, Crumpets, Naan bread, Pitta bread I have even used the artificial dog biscuits and taken good fish on these. One of the biggest mistakes people make when surface fishing is casting out to far, all my biggest carp to date have been taken less than 2ft from the bank, normally at my feet, or ambushing them when they are eating freebies in the margins, get em feeding confidently and then just lower your hook bait on their nose and be prepared to hang on. http://www.carp-fishing-tactics.com/rigs-floating-bait.html Have a look on here, they have some good tips for floater fishing Hope it helps Quote Link to post
frankie 2010 1 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) not much more to say nice one lads , maybe one thing hey missed is be , PATIENT , a lone curious carp can nudge and piss what seems ages before it takes the bait , if your hook is presented right , you will hit most fish !! but still frustratuing , good luck , ps BAKERS COMPLTETE MEATY BALLS (BEEF) SSSSSSHHHHHH !!!!!!!! ALSO try to gain confidence of the carp before you put a bait out , if they are competing , your chances will improve they will be more confident and easier o catch !!! Edited August 14, 2011 by frankie 2010 Quote Link to post
david brightmore 13 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 try using wide gape paste hooks mate i find them a lot better catch rate when surface fishing Quote Link to post
mrcaniplaywithmadness 6 Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 feed your swim for about a half hour then fish it, when you catch one feed it WITHOUT fishing it for another half hour. you may get board and also tempted but gaining confidence is the main thing Quote Link to post
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