when u break trough

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

From what I've seen with dogs I've entered, I think it's best to just get them out, showing them earths, showing them quarry, showing them digs etc. etc. and just getting used to general things like being close to the dig and near the spade, IMO putting them back in the kennel to ''think about it'' for a couple of months would be a totally backward step and not something I would do, if a pup wasn't interested I'd just keep persevering until he decides he's ready.

[dev 226]

I dissagree, if I had a pup that I kept taking out and trying it week after week when the pup clearly wasn't ready, I would soon get fed up. Then I'd be more likely to make a harsh decission. Due to the amount of "chances" it has had. If mine are not ready then I leave them at home for a month or 6 weeks then try them again. When they are mature enough it will be much easier to enter them. Just my opinion

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

I don't mean trying them to ground everytime out Dev, I mean just having them out on digs, and when they 'click' they're usually doing cartwheels on the lead, then I'll try them at an earth...

[dev 226]

Ok mate, everyone has their own way, no set rules in this game.

 

[THE DEALER! 77]

alan626, some times there are steping stones in entering terriers which a lot of us use to bring on our terriers, we all differ in our ways of entering terriers,if i had a dog that was 2 years old i would be thinking he should be doing a little bit more than working on the sod, so perhaps i may bring him out each week and see if he makes more progress, but you have a young dog 16 months old, that did not do what you taught was your next steping stone in entering your terrier, dogs mature at different ages, perhaps the next time you take him out he might not go on the sod again, ( not saying you would try him on the sod again ) its not always forward with these young terriers, i myself would leave him till he matures another few months, walk him daily with your working terrier let him get fit and mature,then introduce him to your next steping stone you have in your mind. all the best with him, and have a good season.

[stop.end 4,079]

I dissagree, if I had a pup that I kept taking out and trying it week after week when the pup clearly wasn't ready, I would soon get fed up. Then I'd be more likely to make a harsh decission. Due to the amount of "chances" it has had. If mine are not ready then I leave them at home for a month or 6 weeks then try them again. When they are mature enough it will be much easier to enter them. Just my opinion

thats all i meant dev..... listen if i take a pup out week in week out and it not ready or mature enuff then not only am i taking up room of a worker.... its also another lead to hold or dog to walk down a field and if you have already done this a few times and it not showing great signs, then what the f**k is the point??? and as any terriermen... well the ones that i know usually just take lurcher and terrier to the hole..... granted a pup can be brought to a secluded area to give it a look but if it not showing really good signs then the pup will be left in the van most of the day...... and beleive me thats worse than leaving it at home in its wee snug bed...... now as for leaving it in the kennell my theory behind that is if it been out a few times and not showing great promise it will soon realise what its missing when the other dogs are got from the kennells to go hunting.... and yea fatman they can tell the difference from going a walk or going hunting.... it will give the wee bitch time to get used to the smells of the other dogs when they come back and how excited they be going.... then try her maybe the wee time in the box will give her that wee bit of time instead of showing and showing and sickening the BITCH and YOURSELF lol .......... oh and this has been tried and tested atb........

[alan626 305]

the dig the other day was a once of just to see was my old bitch getting fitter so the pup will have another few weeks to think about wat she wants to do but when i start back at the digging the pups will be coming every time im in no rush to get these pups to ground so they will be on the chains for a few weeks and by the time i take them of the chains they should be rearing to go

[slips 114]

i was out for a quick walk today and my bitch went to ground got a mark at 1.2 so start digging after a vary hard hour of digging we broke trough she had it well bottled up in a pot , so i took the bitch out and let my pup have a look this pup is 16 months she just stood back and every couple of mins she would give a couple of yaps but no way would she stick her head in my question is wat do u expect from a pup the first time at a hole

so what as this 16 month ole been doing or is this the first time out in the field. if its is her first time out what as she been doing sittin in a pen growin numb as she been out huntin rattin brushin cos at 16 month i want a bit more than a couple of yaps come on be fair there terriers you want'nt expect a shepherd to go runnin around a field to do a job is collie gene pool add for hunderds of years jmo

[alan626 305]

ye slips i keep her in a black dark shed covered in her own sh1t i was surprised when she barked cause her teeth are so over grown i taught it would hurt her mouth when she barked .. slips dont be stupit u tosser if u have notting sensible to say keep ur trap shut and say notting .. i stoped digging in janurary because i dug cubs the pup was only 7 months then so no she didnt see much if u look trough other post u will see this bitch killing rats and generl mooching ,, i like to hang my wellies up to dry in the summer thanks for ur pennys worth slips but i didnt need it

[slips 114]

ye slips i keep her in a black dark shed covered in her own sh1t i was surprised when she barked cause her teeth are so over grown i taught it would hurt her mouth when she barked .. slips dont be stupit u tosser if u have notting sensible to say keep ur trap shut and say notting .. i stoped digging in janurary because i dug cubs the pup was only 7 months then so no she didnt see much if u look trough other post u will see this bitch killing rats and generl mooching ,, i like to hang my wellies up to dry in the summer thanks for ur pennys worth slips but i didnt need it

may be if you didnt treat her like a mushroom you wouldnt be starting a post about a 16 month ole dog tosser so why didnt you keep ya stinky wellies on in january tosser and add ya pup out on cubs may be then tosser you wouldnt be wonderin what shit you keep tosser i dont care if cubs are crawlin out there mothers c**t when a puppy there to learn and yes i didnt read the start cos i fought what a tosser 16 months and it yap and i hope you dont expect a chritmas card etheir tosser

[FightTheBan 1,147]

ye slips i keep her in a black dark shed covered in her own sh1t i was surprised when she barked cause her teeth are so over grown i taught it would hurt her mouth when she barked .. slips dont be stupit u tosser if u have notting sensible to say keep ur trap shut and say notting .. i stoped digging in janurary because i dug cubs the pup was only 7 months then so no she didnt see much if u look trough other post u will see this bitch killing rats and generl mooching ,, i like to hang my wellies up to dry in the summer thanks for ur pennys worth slips but i didnt need it

may be if you didnt treat her like a mushroom you wouldnt be starting a post about a 16 month ole dog tosser so why didnt you keep ya stinky wellies on in january tosser and add ya pup out on cubs may be then tosser you wouldnt be wonderin what shit you keep tosser i dont care if cubs are crawlin out there mothers c**t when a puppy there to learn and yes i didnt read the start cos i fought what a tosser 16 months and it yap and i hope you dont expect a chritmas card etheir tosser

 

I take it you think he is a tosser?

 

FTB

[slips 114]

ye slips i keep her in a black dark shed covered in her own sh1t i was surprised when she barked cause her teeth are so over grown i taught it would hurt her mouth when she barked .. slips dont be stupit u tosser if u have notting sensible to say keep ur trap shut and say notting .. i stoped digging in janurary because i dug cubs the pup was only 7 months then so no she didnt see much if u look trough other post u will see this bitch killing rats and generl mooching ,, i like to hang my wellies up to dry in the summer thanks for ur pennys worth slips but i didnt need it

may be if you didnt treat her like a mushroom you wouldnt be starting a post about a 16 month ole dog tosser so why didnt you keep ya stinky wellies on in january tosser and add ya pup out on cubs may be then tosser you wouldnt be wonderin what shit you keep tosser i dont care if cubs are crawlin out there mothers c**t when a puppy there to learn and yes i didnt read the start cos i fought what a tosser 16 months and it yap and i hope you dont expect a chritmas card etheir tosser

 

I take it you think he is a tosser?

 

FTB

not rearly ftb not my fought he didnt do nowt with hes dog now hes gettin all touchy yap yap yap

[Guest dee mac]

as said before everyman too his own but we like too get them out early last saeason we had 5 young dogs each one of them was taken out from about 6 months old too let them see a dig travel in jeep get used too lead livestock etc some of them were mad too get too ground once they seen what was going on but they were kept on lead and most important kept interested and keen last sunday we took one of these pups now 16 months and dug him first time we asked him also had his sister she was not as forward but still was looking into action her time will come then on the wednesday we took another one out dug him as well first time of asking then friday night we dug one with an older dog and another of them was keen too get in but was held out as not really a puppy earth had same dog pup out again sunday and he was travelling searching earths but we just never got an earth suitable for him on the day that was holding but hes going in right direction .now only these pups were taken out from young age and schooled a little bit theres no way they have made the progress they have in the last week or so now its early days and a good start for them but its a log way too go yet.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

i was out for a quick walk today and my bitch went to ground got a mark at 1.2 so start digging after a vary hard hour of digging we broke trough she had it well bottled up in a pot , so i took the bitch out and let my pup have a look this pup is 16 months she just stood back and every couple of mins she would give a couple of yaps but no way would she stick her head in my question is wat do u expect from a pup the first time at a hole

Patience is the answer they are all different.

These few words say it all .

[digger. 615]

wots up alan is dat the pup at the show.nice dog.if we cud dig [bANNED TEXT] true im sure it wud be started by now i hav a bitch dats the same entered her saturday after 1 look in [bANNED TEXT] dat she was flying.my other bitch was flying at 9 months but was just out of season its poxy [bANNED TEXT] der just starting 2 go and u need 2 stop