when u break trough

[fat man 4,741]

GD that to me is good advice.

To those that mentioned letting terriers in at the end of digs, it's illegal.

Im going to have to get that rule book that you have neil,lol

[THE DEALER! 77]

Ive had pups get stuck in from the off and more that would not entertain it for a second.I think,and this is only my opinion,if you also let the worker go with the pup in the pocket if there's room it gives a nervous pup more confidence,then when the pup is goin in at it lift the worker.Its a long time till next march,im sure your pup will get plenty of chances in between,best of luck with it and have a good season.

 

have done this lots of times over the years and have been happy with how the dogs have progressed.

[steveS.Yorks 161]

i was out for a quick walk today and my bitch went to ground got a mark at 1.2 so start digging after a vary hard hour of digging we broke trough she had it well bottled up in a pot , so i took the bitch out and let my pup have a look this pup is 16 months she just stood back and every couple of mins she would give a couple of yaps but no way would she stick her head in my question is wat do u expect from a pup the first time at a hole

 

Digging to another dog and dropping a pup in? And worse no other poster even mentions it? Biggest shortcut to failure i can think of.

well wats ur way of introduction the dog has been at digs has seen action on the sod u tell us wats the next step

 

First Alan i had acess to very good dogs,well bred and well tested for a long time,thats halfway there at least,very few failures ever came out of the lines i was involved with,although obviously some dogs will allways be better than others.

 

Then theres the entering,when i was young i made mistakes,to eager and keen to get results,anyone who's honest about it will admit the same,nobody is born with the knowledge its learned,sometimes by hard lessons.

 

If you want to make a good single handed terrier its counter productive to start it by dropping it straight on a fox when another dog has done the work,if you keep doing it some terriers will expect to be dropped in instead of pushing and working to get to the fox off their own back,even well bred dogs from well tested lines.

 

My method would be to tie a pup up near the dig,enter an experianced dog and let the pup watch the goings on,its easy to tell when a pup is showing the right kind of interest to give it a try at an easy shallow earth,if the pup gips and wont enter or wont stay,tie the f****r up and dig with a reliable dog,never let the pup in at the end,keep repeating the process until the pup realises it wont get to vent its frustration until it works the fox itself,i think its a good idea to let a pup worry a dead fox if its willing at the end of a dig,but the fox must be stone dead,just to show it the smally b*****d at the end of the tube isnt a 6oz rat.

 

The best terrier man ive ever known,a bloke who took things to the extreme to put it mildly,once said to me "i like a pup to be a bit wary on its first encounters" i didnt really understand that until some years later,but i suppose it depends on what you want a serviceble single handed dog that will work week in week out through the season,or a nut job to stupid for its own good.

 

Thats just some very basic thoughts and explanations,only scratching the surface,like i said it depends what you want to acheive.

[mouse 282]

I like to chain a youngster near an entrance where the dog that is to ground working can be heard. Kind of gauge their reaction to events from afar, almost as if you can see the instinct in them being bought out.

the pup is the white dog.totally agree with you mate.

[fat man 4,741]

Everyone has a different way of doing things.When you take out a young terrier for its 1st outing you are hoping for the best but you should also be prepared for the worst.Some will tie them beside the dig other's including myself will give them a look at the end of a dig if they dont travel before hand.I personally dont think its does them any harm as long as its only done once or twice,after that i would expect them to travel themselves.Then other's let them rag a dead one on top which is something i would not do,everyone has there own idea of doing things.

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

keep it going fellas this is valuable info that some youngsters would like to hear but dont want to ask

[THE DEALER! 77]

if i got a penny for every time i read a post " tied him up near the dig" i be a rich man, can someone please tell me were else would you tie up a young dog, two fields away

[liamdelaney 2,586]

GD that to me is good advice.

To those that mentioned letting terriers in at the end of digs, it's illegal.

Im going to have to get that rule book that you have neil,lol

when you read it send it on to me.

[alan626 305]

the bitch has being on the chains for a few digs and had a rattle on the sod i think i was just expecting more from her ah well we will know in a few weeks when the digging is up and running good luck wit the season lads

[stop.end 4,079]

IF YOU HAVE SHOWED HER A FEW BEFORE AND SHE NOT THAT INTERESTED YET........ PERSONALLY ID LEAVE HER IN THA KENNELS FOR A FEW MONTHS YET AND CONCENTRATE ON YOUR OTHER PUP THAT YOU HAVE ...... TAKE HER MAYBE OCTOBER AGAIN.... IF SHE GOT A RATTLE YEST SHE BE IN THE KENNELL THINKING ABOUT IT AND IF IT IN HER SHE WILL LET YOU KNOW JUST BY THE CHANGE IN HER DEMEOUR THAT SHE MIGHT BE A BIT MORE READY....... BUT THATS JUST MY 10 CENTS WORTH EACH TO THEIR OWN I GUESS AND ALL THE BEST WITH HER

[CWN-HELA 228]

keep tacking her out, show her an entrance of an earth with a working dog when he marking going let him go and leave her pegged there...dont show her the stop end oh she will be expecting that every time..and dont let her have a rag...im sure she will come good

[alan626 305]

some good advice lads cheers

[fat man 4,741]

IF YOU HAVE SHOWED HER A FEW BEFORE AND SHE NOT THAT INTERESTED YET........ PERSONALLY ID LEAVE HER IN THA KENNELS FOR A FEW MONTHS YET AND CONCENTRATE ON YOUR OTHER PUP THAT YOU HAVE ...... TAKE HER MAYBE OCTOBER AGAIN.... IF SHE GOT A RATTLE YEST SHE BE IN THE KENNELL THINKING ABOUT IT AND IF IT IN HER SHE WILL LET YOU KNOW JUST BY THE CHANGE IN HER DEMEOUR THAT SHE MIGHT BE A BIT MORE READY....... BUT THATS JUST MY 10 CENTS WORTH EACH TO THEIR OWN I GUESS AND ALL THE BEST WITH HER

She wont learn much stuck in a kennell,ffs,lol..

[downsouth 7,228]

Ive found that most of the terriers ive had that have made the grade have entered themselves.No blockends or carcasses i just get them out and about every day letting them hunt up and learn to use their nose Then when i think the youngster is physically and mentally mature i will start letting it check earths without encouraging it and if it says no i will check each earth behind it with an older dog.Ive had a few youngsters enter in the first ocupied earth they have been to and ive had a couple self enter even earlier when they have found stuff on their own whilst just out on exercise.If i had to resort to showing a dog a blockent then its not the dog for me.

[mouse 282]

if i got a penny for every time i read a post " tied him up near the dig" i be a rich man, can someone please tell me were else would you tie up a young dog, two fields away

the lad asked a question and people gave there replys.

Edited August 14, 2011 by mouse