blacknight 111 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 hi all, brought a 12 month old dog about two week ago was told hes only been on the lamp a couple of times and has had two rabbits. been out a few time my self with him but hes hunting the field in the dark, how can i stop this? Quote Link to post
rapidjenky 97 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 is his recall ok at other times? 2 weeks isnt a massive amount of time to build up a good bond with a dog. get his recall sorted first then when you go out with the lamp dont worrie about scaring the bunnys away. if you give him a slip recall him when the run is over. it will spoil the first few nights lamping you do with him with all the noise but it will be better in the end. once he knows he had to return when the lamp goes out then you can start to lamp properly. 1 Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Mine learned to come back when the light went out after a few runs alongside his sire. Quote Link to post
carp man 1 219 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 just keep takein him out in the day every time he comes bk give him a treat to me thats y they sold him then Quote Link to post
blacknight 111 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 i no two weeks is no a lot of bonding time but his recall not bad in the day its just when hes out on the lamp, he just go deaf, lol unless hes at arms length then thinks twic about runing the field. so your saying a bit more bonding time he should come good Quote Link to post
pernod 466 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 hi all, brought a 12 month old dog about two week ago was told hes only been on the lamp a couple of times and has had two rabbits. been out a few time my self with him but hes hunting the field in the dark, how can i stop this? Hi mate, I think you have just discovered why the dog was passed on at 12 months. There are some good young dogs moved on for 'justifiable' reasons, but by reading some of the posts on here, it seems the owner discovers the fault, then offloads it to a naive purchaser. Just my observations. Yours in sport Pernod Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 hi all, brought a 12 month old dog about two week ago was told hes only been on the lamp a couple of times and has had two rabbits. been out a few time my self with him but hes hunting the field in the dark, how can i stop this? Hi mate, I think you have just discovered why the dog was passed on at 12 months. There are some good young dogs moved on for 'justifiable' reasons, but by reading some of the posts on here, it seems the owner discovers the fault, then offloads it to a naive purchaser. Just my observations. Yours in sport Pernod That's why I'd never pay money for any dog other than a pup. You might be buying a dog that's almost ready to work, but you're also buying any ingrained faults and bad habits. Dogs do most of their learning as pups, not saying you can't train older dogs but I reckon you stand a much better chance starting with a pup. Quote Link to post
blacknight 111 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 just keep takein him out in the day every time he comes bk give him a treat to me thats y they sold him then was thinking the same mate, would like to put it right rather than pass the dog on again, will give it ago cheers Quote Link to post
blacknight 111 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 hi all, brought a 12 month old dog about two week ago was told hes only been on the lamp a couple of times and has had two rabbits. been out a few time my self with him but hes hunting the field in the dark, how can i stop this? Hi mate, I think you have just discovered why the dog was passed on at 12 months. There are some good young dogs moved on for 'justifiable' reasons, but by reading some of the posts on here, it seems the owner discovers the fault, then offloads it to a naive purchaser. Just my observations. Yours in sport Pernod That's why I'd never pay money for any dog other than a pup. You might be buying a dog that's almost ready to work, but you're also buying any ingrained faults and bad habits. Dogs do most of their learning as pups, not saying you can't train older dogs but I reckon you stand a much better chance starting with a pup. would not usually get a dog at this age unless seeing it run first unless it was pup like you said but had dealings with the lad before and has been ginuwine, Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 hi all, brought a 12 month old dog about two week ago was told hes only been on the lamp a couple of times and has had two rabbits. been out a few time my self with him but hes hunting the field in the dark, how can i stop this? Hi mate, I think you have just discovered why the dog was passed on at 12 months. There are some good young dogs moved on for 'justifiable' reasons, but by reading some of the posts on here, it seems the owner discovers the fault, then offloads it to a naive purchaser. Just my observations. Yours in sport Pernod That's why I'd never pay money for any dog other than a pup. You might be buying a dog that's almost ready to work, but you're also buying any ingrained faults and bad habits. Dogs do most of their learning as pups, not saying you can't train older dogs but I reckon you stand a much better chance starting with a pup. would not usually get a dog at this age unless seeing it run first unless it was pup like you said but had dealings with the lad before and has been ginuwine, I wasn't knocking you mate. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Work on the recall by day, and by night in a non lamping situation. 12 months is not too old to correct a fault, though I'd be more inclined to think that the dog probably hasn't been properly trained in the first place. 12 months of age is also the stage where the dog is still working out who is boss, and to have changed hands only a couple of weeks ago will have confused it a wee bit: maybe a lot! If it were my dog I wouldn't be out lamping it yet. I'd be working on that bond, working on things like recall, retrieving games, sit, stay: all things which will cement your position as both figure of authority and best mate. Lots of people have this sort of problem with young dogs first starting out on the lamp even when they've had the dogs since pups: myself included Keep working on the recall in all sorts of different situations, and then work on the recall with distractions: by day. Like entering a field where there are rabbits running about in the distance: walk the hedge but only let the dog get so far in front of you before calling it back to heel. Walk a bit further, send the dog on, let it run a few rabbits, then call it back. This way you are constantly reminding the dog that you are in charge, but that at the same time, you're not out to ruin its fun. 2 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 hi all, brought a 12 month old dog about two week ago was told hes only been on the lamp a couple of times and has had two rabbits. been out a few time my self with him but hes hunting the field in the dark, how can i stop this? you havn't given him much time to bed in with you,,does he come back at all on the lamp,,or come near and run off again,,or does he just get the head down as soon as he gets off,, Quote Link to post
blacknight 111 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Work on the recall by day, and by night in a non lamping situation. 12 months is not too old to correct a fault, though I'd be more inclined to think that the dog probably hasn't been properly trained in the first place. 12 months of age is also the stage where the dog is still working out who is boss, and to have changed hands only a couple of weeks ago will have confused it a wee bit: maybe a lot! If it were my dog I wouldn't be out lamping it yet. I'd be working on that bond, working on things like recall, retrieving games, sit, stay: all things which will cement your position as both figure of authority and best mate. Lots of people have this sort of problem with young dogs first starting out on the lamp even when they've had the dogs since pups: myself included Keep working on the recall in all sorts of different situations, and then work on the recall with distractions: by day. Like entering a field where there are rabbits running about in the distance: walk the hedge but only let the dog get so far in front of you before calling it back to heel. Walk a bit further, send the dog on, let it run a few rabbits, then call it back. This way you are constantly reminding the dog that you are in charge, but that at the same time, you're not out to ruin its fun. just come back from a good long walk putting some of what was said it to practice i think it went very well and feeling positive, i no there's still a lot of work to do, thanks Quote Link to post
carp man 1 219 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 just keep takein him out in the day every time he comes bk give him a treat to me thats y they sold him then was thinking the same mate, would like to put it right rather than pass the dog on again, will give it ago cheers i would mate it might make a good dog with time put in to it all the best Quote Link to post
blacknight 111 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 hi all, brought a 12 month old dog about two week ago was told hes only been on the lamp a couple of times and has had two rabbits. been out a few time my self with him but hes hunting the field in the dark, how can i stop this? you havn't given him much time to bed in with you,,does he come back at all on the lamp,,or come near and run off again,,or does he just get the head down as soon as he gets off,, it a bit of everything you you have mentioned and can be a bit nervous at time, i will have to work on bonding with him and gain his trust, the misses will not be happy sleeping on the couch. Quote Link to post
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