gnasher16 30,280 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Got some plans for my gaff which involves a small conifer tree needing moving.......is this possible ?....... We have an old boy been coming round for years who does the gardening he reckons moving it will kill it,my ol womans driving me mad because she loves it .....Now i wouldnt normally stand for this shit but its knocking on a bit now and ive grown quite fond of it over the years ( the wife that is not the tree ) .......so dont really want to chop the f****r down if i can help it......so thought id try and get a second opinion just incase the old boy simply cant be arsed doing it ! I have no idea what type of conifer it is its only about 6 foot high but one of those perfectly trimmed things has to be at least 20 years old. Anyone got any experience in this game ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiebop 125 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 wait till the autumn,dig enough round an save a big enough rootball,a mini digger should do the job,should be o.k.,but I,m no expert just done it with a small Apple tree,moved from the back to my front. this season crop is crap ,but I think it will recover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christian71 3,187 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Theres bob hope and no hope sorry will never move Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steveS.Yorks 161 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Most trees belonging to the pine family are surface rooting,the roots spread out instead of going deep with a tap root,so it shouldnt be to difficult to dig it out,you will have to follow the main roots and get as much of the roots as possible. It should be an evergreen so its allways going to have sap in the needles at any time of year,but i think the back end is a better bet to shift it,theyre tough trees,i lit a fire a bit to close to my conifer hedge and boiled the sap in 2 of them,they came back ok,but it took ages. I rekon its more than possible if you get a good bit of root and water it regularly until it regenerates itself properly,the Isrealis pinch well established olive trees from the Palistinians all the time and re-site them. Im no gardener,but ive moved trees,at work and while digging dogs out and they have come back ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 As long as you take as big a root ball as you can when you dig it up, it should be ok, give it a good soaking when you replant it, and water frequently until Autumn How tall is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,503 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 'stealthy1' timestamp='1312497411' post='2179292'] As long as you take as big a root ball as you can when you dig it up, it should be ok, give it a good soaking when you replant it, and water frequently until Autumn Thats what id do but at 6 foot and twenty years old theres no guarentee ,But the main thing is not to let it dry out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 while we on the subject of trees,i have two apple trees in my garden,they are getting a big big.So my question is when do i prune the branches back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 while we on the subject of trees,i have two apple trees in my garden,they are getting a big big.So my question is when do i prune the branches back? If it was my apple tree I would leave it until next spring, its been a funny old season, and if you do it now you may wind up with a lot of canker, sorry I cant be more accurate with out seeing the tree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 thanks stealthy.i have 2 trees.one is eating apples,other is cooking apples.both produce lots of fruit,but there getting rather tall and bushy.ok mate ill wait till the spring before giving them a good prune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christian71 3,187 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I will say it again a 6ft conifer 20 years old will never live. And i am a gardener. Move it and within a week it will be going brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I will say it again a 6ft conifer 20 years old will never live. And i am a gardener. Move it and within a week it will be going brown Is there a difference between moving a 20 year old conifer and a 40 year old apple tree then as i was talking to my neighbour(fencer/landscaper) about moving the apple tree in my front garden. He said it could be done as long as i staked the tree underground so it didnt move with wind until the roots took a hold.....?... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 You can move any tree, as long as you do it right. Trench round it now, then back fill, then actually move the thing late autumn. Then use something called a platerpus root ball holder, instead of a steak water it untold in dry periods the following year, and you should be fine. If the old boy isn't up for the job, and you ain't, with your mullered back, pay some one who can do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 p.s, christian is sorta right, there is a chance it will die, but its not a certainty. As long as done correctly, the chance is minimised Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,523 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) You can move any tree, as long as you do it right. Trench round it now, then back fill, then actually move the thing late autumn. Then use something called a platerpus root ball holder, instead of a steak water it untold in dry periods the following year, and you should be fine. If the old boy isn't up for the job, and you ain't, with your mullered back, pay some one who can do it. Its a Platipus underground guying kit your on about I think mate. This big acer had one on it that we'd had to do for a demonstration and then some tw@ ordered the tree and it was a nightmare to dig. I dig root balled trees (not conifers admittedly) for a living and if it was mine i'd give it a go but not until the winter, how thick is the trunk on it? When we buy in root balled conifers from abroad they have tiny root balls on them. There is a chance it will die but if its that or cutting it down its worth the risk. I had to do it with a big monkey puzzle this spring and its still aliveand that was without a proper root ball on it, stuck it in a pot and kept it well watered, if it survives till next spring i'll be able to sell it for £900 ish Edited August 5, 2011 by gnipper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christian71 3,187 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) You can move any tree, as long as you do it right. Trench round it now, then back fill, then actually move the thing late autumn. Then use something called a platerpus root ball holder, instead of a steak water it untold in dry periods the following year, and you should be fine. If the old boy isn't up for the job, and you ain't, with your mullered back, pay some one who can do it. Its a Platipus underground guying kit your on about I think mate. This big acer had one on it that we'd had to do for a demonstration and then some tw@ ordered the tree and it was a nightmare to dig. I dig root balled trees (not conifers admittedly) for a living and if it was mine i'd give it a go but not until the winter, how thick is the trunk on it? When we buy in root balled conifers from abroad they have tiny root balls on them. There is a chance it will die but if its that or cutting it down its worth the risk. I had to do it with a big monkey puzzle this spring and its still aliveand that was without a proper root ball on it, stuck it in a pot and kept it well watered, if it survives till next spring i'll be able to sell it for £900 ish If i think where you work Dont be bending over while richard is around Edited August 5, 2011 by christian71 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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