dogger 100 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 do you think this trait can be bred out?e.g breeding a bitch with undershot to a good mouthed dog whats the chances of the pups having the same trait? does it miss generations etc? would you chance breeding an undershot dog in the hope that the pups would be good if the parents were good workers? lot of questions but im bored Quote Link to post
The one 8,467 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I was always lead to believe both parents had to carrier the gene?. so if you breed to a dog with a good mouth the pups might be fine but will carry the problem??. Quote Link to post
lurcher2020 285 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Its a bad idea once it's in the line it stays there might not pop out in every pup but why flood the soot world with dogs with major faults but that's my opinion Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I know of a litter of black pups on the ground at the minute.The sire was perfect in the mouth but the dam was very badly overshot on the bottom jaw,hog mouthed as i would call her,but the pups are all perfect even jaw lines. Quote Link to post
snizle06 202 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Its a bad idea once it's in the line it stays there might not pop out in every pup but why flood the soot world with dogs with major faults but that's my opinion an under shot jaw while not being desireable is not a serious fault IMO. there are far worse traits being carried by terrier strains such as spewing. i think breeding for apperance has messed up alot of strains 3 Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 I would have no problem breeding out of an undershot dog or bitch,if they were good enough . An undershot dog can still work as well as one with a good mouth 1 Quote Link to post
danny300 2,240 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 i bred my bitch last year to a dog i had that was undershot and the 3 pups were perfect. Quote Link to post
subaru dogs 2 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 My old bitch was under shot had 2 litters off her and in both litters some come out under shot and some were normal, the sires jaws were perfect !! Quote Link to post
johnnie deep dig 36 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Undershot overshot imo not aproblem for the dog work wise, had undershot dog work as good as any other some times better. Only a problem in the show ring mate and in the show ring it doesn't matter how much heart or how good a dog works. It wouldn't bother me mate Quote Link to post
subaru dogs 2 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Undershot overshot imo not aproblem for the dog work wise, had undershot dog work as good as any other some times better. Only a problem in the show ring mate and in the show ring it doesn't matter how much heart or how good a dog works. It wouldn't bother me mate Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Undershot overshot imo not aproblem for the dog work wise, had undershot dog work as good as any other some times better. Only a problem in the show ring mate and in the show ring it doesn't matter how much heart or how good a dog works. It wouldn't bother me mate The only problem i seen with my mates bitch was her bottom jaw stuck out like a sore prick and after only a handfull of digs she had lost nearly all her bottom teeth. Quote Link to post
lowry 48 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 lads what planet are some of you on.. undershot or overshot is a fault and cant be bred out.. dont breed of the bitch or the dog with the problem.. basic genetics and stockmanship.. go and ask any good sensible vet.. i give you my vets number if you want to talk to him.. Quote Link to post
black stuff 129 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Its a bad idea once it's in the line it stays there might not pop out in every pup but why flood the soot world with dogs with major faults but that's my opinion an under shot jaw while not being desireable is not a serious fault IMO. there are far worse traits being carried by terrier strains such as spewing. i think breeding for apperance has messed up alot of strains Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 lads what planet are some of you on.. undershot or overshot is a fault and cant be bred out.. dont breed of the bitch or the dog with the problem.. basic genetics and stockmanship.. go and ask any good sensible vet.. i give you my vets number if you want to talk to him.. I think by using an outcross,eventually the problem gets less and less,different if you kept breedind from your own stock,as for vets they only tell you what you want to hear and take your cash for telling you.lol. 2 Quote Link to post
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