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I couldnt answer about the other breeds but regards the apbt there seems to be this strange theory in recent years that game bred apbt,s are/were in some way great temperament trustworthy reliable dog

Couldnt agree more....i have always maintained the one thing that killed the apbt breed in this country was they became popular as pet dogs........i believe in an old saying with this breed which is..

that post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever....you can trust an aggressive dog???? trust it how exactly? that's like saying you can trust a yob who is going to stab you as long as you can see by

Wether or not she showed her tits on the internet or not has nothing to do with her being badly bitten does it?Gos to show some of the f*****g knob kockeys we have on here get a f*****g grip

 

classy lauguage for a lady lol

 

If i told you once ive told a dozen times im not a lady Ladies dont go hunting with huge bull xs and fix cars etc

 

Some do.

But you are right - you are no lady :hmm: You can make a sailor blush!

 

I dont like sailors

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Wether or not she showed her tits on the internet or not has nothing to do with her being badly bitten does it?Gos to show some of the f*****g knob kockeys we have on here get a f*****g grip

 

classy lauguage for a lady lol

 

If i told you once ive told a dozen times im not a lady Ladies dont go hunting with huge bull xs and fix cars etc

 

Some do.

But you are right - you are no lady :hmm: You can make a sailor blush!

 

I dont like sailors

i shouldn't think there would be many sailors in east kilbride.

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Glad to hear you are recovering and getting on with it.

 

have to say i find the breed specific mumbo jumbo from some members on here a little baffling thou? Male Rotts are no better or worse for Man Aggression than most other large guarding breeds...perhaps this is/was a poorly bred one where breeding selection was more about the £ than producing stable pups or perhaps the attention it was being given confused the animal about its standing in the group (there's lots of issues like this)....

 

The main point is any dog can and will bite from time to time, the only dogs i have ever come across who have never given off ANY sign of immiment attack have been game bred pits and these were not MA.

 

I dont have time for dogs like these around people but please dont stigmatise an entire breed based on one incident on here?

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well.. i am very confused.. lol!.. i just want to know when ive had my boobs out?! ANYWAY.. thanks to all for the nice comments.. my boyfriend has been helping me get used to his little westie and i feel pretty safe around that one dog now, i still cross over roads when i see big dogs but can now walk past little terriers with confidence! the other good news is i now have a job at a pet shop working with the reptiles!! whoop whoop go me :) thanks all again

 

georgia x

good luck with the reps

watch the tokay geckos evil little sods bite like a ferret.

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the only dogs i have ever come across who have never given off ANY sign of immiment attack have been game bred pits and these were not MA.

 

 

 

Maybe you have just been very lucky..........there are just as many unfortunate incidents with apbt,s bred for purpose than there is with any other breed,probably more.......the difference is the sporting apbt is usually in the hands of an owner who accepts that a dog bred for extreme high levels of aggression and tenacity can sometimes direct it in the wrong way...........hence many attacks/incidents go unknown....ie,what happens on the yard stays on the yard as it doesnt effect the purpose the dog was bred for.......an unstable dog is an unstable dog regardless of breed and has no place waking up in the morning.......but to say the apbt bred from gameness is any less likely to bite a human than any other dog is in my opinion very naive.

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the only dogs i have ever come across who have never given off ANY sign of immiment attack have been game bred pits and these were not MA.

 

 

 

Maybe you have just been very lucky..........there are just as many unfortunate incidents with apbt,s bred for purpose than there is with any other breed,probably more.......the difference is the sporting apbt is usually in the hands of an owner who accepts that a dog bred for extreme high levels of aggression and tenacity can sometimes direct it in the wrong way...........hence many attacks/incidents go unknown....ie,what happens on the yard stays on the yard as it doesnt effect the purpose the dog was bred for.......an unstable dog is an unstable dog regardless of breed and has no place waking up in the morning.......but to say the apbt bred from gameness is any less likely to bite a human than any other dog is in my opinion very naive.

the problem with the apbt is the fact that they have been scatter bred and put in general circulation. Yes they can be as MA as any other dominant breed but in the right hands these incidents are rare as they breed for gameness and not unwarranted aggression. I am not naive about them, most true apbt i have come across have been way too people friendly for me...any xbreed bull is always classed apbt so the story sounds better?

 

I agree an unstable dog has no place in society, my point is that one incident should not lead to the critisim of an entire breed....be that apbt, rott, dobermann etc.

 

in most cases (not this one in particular) the animal will give a warning that is not picked up by a handler or owner and the situation is not nipped in the bud. Inexperienced people breed nervy large dogs, sell them to even more inexperienced owners and incidents occur. The breed is not at fault the humans are!!

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the problem with the apbt is the fact that they have been scatter bred and put in general circulation. Yes they can be as MA as any other dominant breed but in the right hands these incidents are rare as they breed for gameness and not unwarranted aggression. I am not naive about them, most true apbt i have come across have been way too people friendly for me...any xbreed bull is always classed apbt so the story sounds better?

 

I agree an unstable dog has no place in society, my point is that one incident should not lead to the critisim of an entire breed....be that apbt, rott, dobermann etc.

 

in most cases (not this one in particular) the animal will give a warning that is not picked up by a handler or owner and the situation is not nipped in the bud. Inexperienced people breed nervy large dogs, sell them to even more inexperienced owners and incidents occur. The breed is not at fault the humans are!!

 

I couldnt answer about the other breeds but regards the apbt there seems to be this strange theory in recent years that game bred apbt,s are/were in some way great temperament trustworthy reliable dogs.......they wasnt and are not.......yes there are plenty that are,but theres also a fair few that are not.....i detest the idiots breeding this breed who have no place being around such dogs......but dont be fooled into thinking there were not just as many bad eggs if not more in years gone by......look at the 80,s when the breed and sport was at its height.....a fair few top performance dogs were wronguns....ch smuggler had to be pts after attacking his owners daughter,a number of Neilson offspring were very manny.......a lot of the reid dogs were the same i remember old Ed telling me years ago about his Rangitang dog who he thought was a fine example of the breed but had to stop breeding him as he was producing so many man biters.....the Nelis line were renowned for it.....

Ive been on the recieving end myself on a few occasions and id class myself as an experienced and responsible owner of this breed......the reality is a breed bred for performance at the highest level to be at a peak of fitness and aggressive ability to another one of his own.....must sacrifice other qualities,nobody ever bred a fast lane combat dog because its good with children !.......sometimes if you want top quality performance you must sacrifice quality in other areas......plenty are/were absolutely sound in temperament.....but many were not.

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exactly why the should never have been in general circulation.....i have been told that many would accept man biters if they were winning but these dogs were not generally made available to those outside the game. Once the hype started and the £ came into breeding and selling pups the millers got going and hence the issues.

 

The same happened to gsd's, dobermans, then rotts and lastly the am bull...now its presa's.

 

unfortunately whilst we have dogs attacks will happen from time to time....even experienced owners can get caught out, thats why large guarding breeds should not be sold to novices as a status symbol....

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Couldnt agree more....i have always maintained the one thing that killed the apbt breed in this country was they became popular as pet dogs........i believe in an old saying with this breed which is......." the further away from the pit they go the more trouble will come ".............if formula 1 cars ever became popular everyday transport there will be trouble on our roads....but in the hands of the people who compete with them theres no problem........high performance does not fit in with our everyday life it should be reserved for where it belongs.............like i say,this breed is as prone to attacks as any other,probably more so.................but then if you drive fast you have to accept sometimes you crash,you cant moan about it afterwards...............

As regards keeping manny dogs......the dog i was on the recieving end of many years ago lived his days out on my yard and produced some excellent dogs,but then ive never sold pups so....." play the game with the hand your dealt and do the best with the cards you have ",simple..

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Couldnt agree more....i have always maintained the one thing that killed the apbt breed in this country was they became popular as pet dogs........i believe in an old saying with this breed which is......." the further away from the pit they go the more trouble will come ".............if formula 1 cars ever became popular everyday transport there will be trouble on our roads....but in the hands of the people who compete with them theres no problem........high performance does not fit in with our everyday life it should be reserved for where it belongs.............like i say,this breed is as prone to attacks as any other,probably more so.................but then if you drive fast you have to accept sometimes you crash,you cant moan about it afterwards...............

As regards keeping manny dogs......the dog i was on the recieving end of many years ago lived his days out on my yard and produced some excellent dogs,but then ive never sold pups so....." play the game with the hand your dealt and do the best with the cards you have ",simple..

spot on mate good thread :thumbs: , a great breed in the right hands, but in the wrong hands you in the shit. Even all the big guard breeds presa,rottie,gsd abd, (dont) have tenacity+ raw power+strenght of game bred pit, and its this that makes them so dangerous :yes:

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