THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Andy just reminded me i bought a dog here a rope slip lead and it worked a treat for him without hurting his neck or making him baldy i think ive seen, just a loop, and goes around there neck about 1inch thick rope ? Quote Link to post
littlefish 588 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) If his aggression is fear based you being "dominant" will only make things worse. You need to take him out by himself and watch very closely his body language. You will soon see if he is attacking out of pure nastiness or out of fear. Either way, the way to meet new dogs is nose to arse NOT nose to nose. Nose to nose is saying "im the boss back down or im going kick your f*****g head in" in dog. Nose to arse is "i want to get to know you and be friends, shall we go and find some rabbits to chase?". If he shows no aggression when he is by himself it could be that he is acting as protector to the puppy. If this is the case he needs to be reassured by you its not needed and that if it is needed its YOUR job not his. First thing to do is get him out by himself ands see how it goes. What experience have you of really training and socialising dogs. It don't sound like you got it right with the whippet. Perhaps you should join a dog training class and take advantage of both the whippet and pup coming into contact under supervision and with an experienced trainer to help you. I don't think you giving this whippet which has been attacked seriously a few weeks ago a 'bollicking' would help much - it is probably already tramatised. Going to a training club is not just for pet owners and to be looked upon as 'gay' or something. Look upon it as giving your dogs a good start to an education that needs to be worked on throughout your dogs life. Good luck. Edited July 23, 2011 by littlefish 1 Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If his aggression is fear based you being "dominant" will only make things worse. You need to take him out by himself and watch very closely his body language. You will soon see if he is attacking out of pure nastiness or out of fear. Either way, the way to meet new dogs is nose to arse NOT nose to nose. Nose to nose is saying "im the boss back down or im going kick your f*****g head in" in dog. Nose to arse is "i want to get to know you and be friends, shall we go and find some rabbits to chase?". If he shows no aggression when he is by himself it could be that he is acting as protector to the puppy. If this is the case he needs to be reassured by you its not needed and that if it is needed its YOUR job not his. First thing to do is get him out by himself ands see how it goes. What experience have you of really training and socialising dogs. It don't sound like you got it right with the whippet. Perhaps you should join a dog training class and take advantage of both the whippet and pup coming into contact under supervision and with an experienced trainer to help you. I don't think you giving this whippet which has been attacked seriously a few weeks ago a 'bollicking' would help much - it is probably already tramatised. Going to a training club is not just for pet owners and to be looked upon as 'gay' or something. Look upon it as giving your dogs a good start to an education that needs to be worked on throughout your dogs life. Good luck. yes i do understand and dont want to knock the dog about, the whippet is not my first dog, i had a alsation x and a springer spaniel, both loved dogs and where fine, he has always had an agressive streak, was very wary of dogs [bANNED TEXT] was a pup, id go if i dont feel confident, im going with my pupy to get its jumping and retrieivng spot on, im not going to ruin a dog becaused im scared of it being gay, i want my dog to work well and behave well, either way ill do what it takes for that to happen Quote Link to post
littlefish 588 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If his aggression is fear based you being "dominant" will only make things worse. You need to take him out by himself and watch very closely his body language. You will soon see if he is attacking out of pure nastiness or out of fear. Either way, the way to meet new dogs is nose to arse NOT nose to nose. Nose to nose is saying "im the boss back down or im going kick your f*****g head in" in dog. Nose to arse is "i want to get to know you and be friends, shall we go and find some rabbits to chase?". If he shows no aggression when he is by himself it could be that he is acting as protector to the puppy. If this is the case he needs to be reassured by you its not needed and that if it is needed its YOUR job not his. First thing to do is get him out by himself ands see how it goes. What experience have you of really training and socialising dogs. It don't sound like you got it right with the whippet. Perhaps you should join a dog training class and take advantage of both the whippet and pup coming into contact under supervision and with an experienced trainer to help you. I don't think you giving this whippet which has been attacked seriously a few weeks ago a 'bollicking' would help much - it is probably already tramatised. Going to a training club is not just for pet owners and to be looked upon as 'gay' or something. Look upon it as giving your dogs a good start to an education that needs to be worked on throughout your dogs life. Good luck. yes i do understand and dont want to knock the dog about, the whippet is not my first dog, i had a alsation x and a springer spaniel, both loved dogs and where fine, he has always had an agressive streak, was very wary of dogs [bANNED TEXT] was a pup, id go if i dont feel confident, im going with my pupy to get its jumping and retrieivng spot on, im not going to ruin a dog becaused im scared of it being gay, i want my dog to work well and behave well, either way ill do what it takes for that to happen Good luck. Keep us informed of your progress. Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Ring ceaser milan if he cant help ye tap the b*****d Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If his aggression is fear based you being "dominant" will only make things worse. You need to take him out by himself and watch very closely his body language. You will soon see if he is attacking out of pure nastiness or out of fear. Either way, the way to meet new dogs is nose to arse NOT nose to nose. Nose to nose is saying "im the boss back down or im going kick your f*****g head in" in dog. Nose to arse is "i want to get to know you and be friends, shall we go and find some rabbits to chase?". If he shows no aggression when he is by himself it could be that he is acting as protector to the puppy. If this is the case he needs to be reassured by you its not needed and that if it is needed its YOUR job not his. First thing to do is get him out by himself ands see how it goes. What experience have you of really training and socialising dogs. It don't sound like you got it right with the whippet. Perhaps you should join a dog training class and take advantage of both the whippet and pup coming into contact under supervision and with an experienced trainer to help you. I don't think you giving this whippet which has been attacked seriously a few weeks ago a 'bollicking' would help much - it is probably already tramatised. Going to a training club is not just for pet owners and to be looked upon as 'gay' or something. Look upon it as giving your dogs a good start to an education that needs to be worked on throughout your dogs life. Good luck. yes i do understand and dont want to knock the dog about, the whippet is not my first dog, i had a alsation x and a springer spaniel, both loved dogs and where fine, he has always had an agressive streak, was very wary of dogs [bANNED TEXT] was a pup, id go if i dont feel confident, im going with my pupy to get its jumping and retrieivng spot on, im not going to ruin a dog becaused im scared of it being gay, i want my dog to work well and behave well, either way ill do what it takes for that to happen Good luck. Keep us informed of your progress. will do mate,thanks for the advice! Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Ring ceaser milan if he cant help ye tap the b*****d i wud if e was in my country Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Personally i think choke chains, yanking him by the neck etc will not help. The least tension possible + distraction will help more., untill he either gets his confidence back, or gets out of the arsey stage. Quote Link to post
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Andy just reminded me i bought a dog here a rope slip lead and it worked a treat for him without hurting his neck or making him baldy i think ive seen, just a loop, and goes around there neck about 1inch thick rope ? Thats the one it was only £3 and its a sturdy enough lead the dog i use it on hates it lol he wont pull or do anything on it my big bull x had one as well for when i walk him or a halti harness.Mainly cos hes got so much better lately still a bit of a tosser at times but tonight Andy had hold of him and he met several dogs one was even barking and he just ignored it.He showed me up in other way by shoving his nose up the back of my skirt and lifting it for all to see lmao Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 alright paddy pal ,i haven,t read the full tread but 1 thing i would do is concerate on the pup ,like you said you did,nt start working or thinking about working untill the whiipet was a certin age ,anyway try and spend the most time with your pup if you want it turn out the best it can be Quote Link to post
Coneytrappr 30 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Bollicking a dog that is reactive to other dogs can escalate the beahviour. Have you thought about doing a bit of clicker training with it? I was skeptical as fook about it but gave it a go and it does actually work and pretty well at that. The idea is to not wait until the dog does something wrong but to get in first and reward the dog for showing behaviours that you want, eg. reward it for paying attention to you instead of to another dog, reward it for ignoring another dog, etc. It's particularly good for sensitive breeds like whips and salukis that don't like to be rumbled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFiZkAG_1JE Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 let it know your the boss and what you say goes!!! dont let it get away with f**k all around the house if you tell it to do something, make sure it does it a dog badly behaved around the house will be badly behaved elsewhere Quote Link to post
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Patrick I'm not sure your dog is actually aggressive. I'd wager it's a fear based behaviour - get in first before they do. My black bitch is the same; a proper nightmare on the lead. Some of that is down to her breeding, her mother had a rather spicy temperament. Some of it is down to learned behaviour from a greyhound I had when she was young, and then she was attacked by a bull mastiff whilst on lead. My bitch doesn't have the best body language, and her warnings are subtle. Some dogs don't see it or respect it and she snaps. She's bossy at the best of times but when she's on lead she's miles worse. I do find she's much better when she's out alone. We're working on it, albeit slowly. My advice to you would be this: spend more time alone with the dog. Go for distraction, or try the clicker training. A bit of work and he'll probably improve dramatically. Taking into account his recent trauma, you might find things slow going. But the biggest thing you'll have to do imo is stop seeing it as aggression and responding with aggression. It'll just get worse and worse. Do some research, try a few things as suggested. Let us know how you go on Quote Link to post
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