THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Alright gang, well lately ive been trying to socialise my puppy and the whippet as he is an agressive dog. It was all going quite well with people willing to help me out and use there dogs to try introduce him, it was going well and then he got attakced quite badly and to be honest i think this set him back. Anyway the point is i try with this dog over and over, he's fine with some dogs and others he just take a disliking to, He is absoutley spot on with my puppy, my girlfriends dog and my grandads jack russel which is all good, but then when i try to go out for a mooch by my house with the pup and the whip, i see another fella with his pack real nice dogs, a saluki x whippet a patterdale and half cross bull grey, anyway my puppys bouncing around playing and the whippet is growling i tell him off, he takes it on boards, baring in mind i pysically tell him off so itsd not half hearted , he's fine with the patterdale bitch yet when the saluki x whip runs up and bam straight goes for it, absoutle joke, bollock him and a firm hand he seems calm for abit and then goes for it again, he stays on the lead at this point because i couldnt be arsed with him going at the bull grey and getting filled in ( i kno dogs shud be introduced of the lead in a neatural area both muzzles or non, but you cant always provide that), but i dont no what to do, ive tried and sucseesed with some dogs but who wants to stand there with my dog which isnt 100% it ruins it for me and the pup, i kno its something we did with the dog when we first got him but i really want him sound with other dogs and i think its guna av to be one big big bollocking feels the only way now, driving me mad. any advice? needed a rant cus the little shit does my head in sometimes, nice one lads Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 myself find its all ways best not to meet on the lead but of it out and about,just did this with a mates dog it wanted to kill my pup on the lead we took it for a mooch took both of leads and they was great,i find some times the lead and the pullin at eash other can wind them up more,just let them of and if it kicks of get in there and sort it Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 You can scream at him till your blue in the face and if he feels threatened by them it aint gonna make a bit of difference. Hopefully with time he will come round. Might just always be funny with new males until he gets used to them though. Bit of advice with a whippet, don't knock it about too much, they are funny wee things. Quote Link to post
pernod 466 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Alright gang, well lately ive been trying to socialise my puppy and the whippet as he is an agressive dog. It was all going quite well with people willing to help me out and use there dogs to try introduce him, it was going well and then he got attakced quite badly and to be honest i think this set him back. Anyway the point is i try with this dog over and over, he's fine with some dogs and others he just take a disliking to, He is absoutley spot on with my puppy, my girlfriends dog and my grandads jack russel which is all good, but then when i try to go out for a mooch by my house with the pup and the whip, i see another fella with his pack real nice dogs, a saluki x whippet a patterdale and half cross bull grey, anyway my puppys bouncing around playing and the whippet is growling i tell him off, he takes it on boards, baring in mind i pysically tell him off so itsd not half hearted , he's fine with the patterdale bitch yet when the saluki x whip runs up and bam straight goes for it, absoutle joke, bollock him and a firm hand he seems calm for abit and then goes for it again, he stays on the lead at this point because i couldnt be arsed with him going at the bull grey and getting filled in ( i kno dogs shud be introduced of the lead in a neatural area both muzzles or non, but you cant always provide that), but i dont no what to do, ive tried and sucseesed with some dogs but who wants to stand there with my dog which isnt 100% it ruins it for me and the pup, i kno its something we did with the dog when we first got him but i really want him sound with other dogs and i think its guna av to be one big big bollocking feels the only way now, driving me mad. any advice? needed a rant cus the little shit does my head in sometimes, nice one lads Hi mate, for a start i would stop taking your pup out with the whippet. The whippet is already mature and should have been trained and socialised by now. The pup on the other hand is a 'blank canvass' and i think it could only learn bad traits off the whippet and nothing positive. I know it sounds harsh but leave the whippet at home. Probably not the positive response you want to hear, but theres no point ending up with 2 spoiled dogs. Yours in sport Pernod 3 Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 myself find its all ways best not to meet on the lead but of it out and about,just did this with a mates dog it wanted to kill my pup on the lead we took it for a mooch took both of leads and they was great,i find some times the lead and the pullin at eash other can wind them up more,just let them of and if it kicks of get in there and sort it see ive done this with my girlfriends dog, jack russel and pup all of the leed, eventually okay, but i cudnt let him off today 1 there was a great big mastiff ahead which i had been told is a bullie by the owner and afdter my dog being filled in the other week i wasnt to keen, also the bull x grey wud of give him a nasty shake up so i didnt want to let him off, normally i wud just let them of to run and watch carefully today i didnt have the opportunity but its jus a pain, i wana be able to walk and meet other dog men with both dogs not jus the pup! Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Alright gang, well lately ive been trying to socialise my puppy and the whippet as he is an agressive dog. It was all going quite well with people willing to help me out and use there dogs to try introduce him, it was going well and then he got attakced quite badly and to be honest i think this set him back. Anyway the point is i try with this dog over and over, he's fine with some dogs and others he just take a disliking to, He is absoutley spot on with my puppy, my girlfriends dog and my grandads jack russel which is all good, but then when i try to go out for a mooch by my house with the pup and the whip, i see another fella with his pack real nice dogs, a saluki x whippet a patterdale and half cross bull grey, anyway my puppys bouncing around playing and the whippet is growling i tell him off, he takes it on boards, baring in mind i pysically tell him off so itsd not half hearted , he's fine with the patterdale bitch yet when the saluki x whip runs up and bam straight goes for it, absoutle joke, bollock him and a firm hand he seems calm for abit and then goes for it again, he stays on the lead at this point because i couldnt be arsed with him going at the bull grey and getting filled in ( i kno dogs shud be introduced of the lead in a neatural area both muzzles or non, but you cant always provide that), but i dont no what to do, ive tried and sucseesed with some dogs but who wants to stand there with my dog which isnt 100% it ruins it for me and the pup, i kno its something we did with the dog when we first got him but i really want him sound with other dogs and i think its guna av to be one big big bollocking feels the only way now, driving me mad. any advice? needed a rant cus the little shit does my head in sometimes, nice one lads Hi mate, for a start i would stop taking your pup out with the whippet. The whippet is already mature and should have been trained and socialised by now. The pup on the other hand is a 'blank canvass' and i think it could only learn bad traits off the whippet and nothing positive. I know it sounds harsh but leave the whippet at home. Probably not the positive response you want to hear, but theres no point ending up with 2 spoiled dogs. Yours in sport Pernod Honest to god fully understand, i want the pup to be socialsed and belive me it wont be ruined, i made my brother walk the whhip in the opposite field so i could introduce the pup with no bad influence, there isnt usually to many dogs about thats why i take them out together to enjoy a walk and with no dogs there the whippet cant be a bad influence but on days like today when i wanted to mingle and chat i couldnt propally, fine with just me and the pup, whippet in the mix its fecked, he does need to be at home, im 100% making sure she turns out alright and doing my best to sort him! Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 You can scream at him till your blue in the face and if he feels threatened by them it aint gonna make a bit of difference. Hopefully with time he will come round. Might just always be funny with new males until he gets used to them though. Bit of advice with a whippet, don't knock it about too much, they are funny wee things. Mate i kno, hes sly as anything snaps without exspecting, just one of them he has been knocked about and knows am in charge but hes still very ifffy, due to the lak of socialsing when we where younger, vets say it could be the anxiousness, hopefully hell turn out okay but the pup needs all the time soiclaisng it can get atm! Quote Link to post
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 My bitch was anightmare when i got her and i found walking her on her own helped a lot i also made it clear i didnt tolerate her behaviour but your timing needs to be spot on and you need to act before he does what he does you need to catch him in mid thought sort of a thing.It wont have helped him with the attack either.He needs to meet nice calm dogs as much as and have the chance to learn his mistakes etc.I used to turn Flint around and drag her home if she kicked off i also used a spray collar and it worked a treat but i sprayed her before she kicked off as soon as i was sure she had the thought in her head i said no if she still didnt listen then she got a blast of the spray and it worked a treat even to this day if i shout thats an isnt she will return sharpish to me.Storm im still working on though i doubt he will ever be perfect but he can meet other dogs on lead and be fine as long as the other dogs on a lead and hes pre told he cant act like a tit. Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 My bitch was anightmare when i got her and i found walking her on her own helped a lot i also made it clear i didnt tolerate her behaviour but your timing needs to be spot on and you need to act before he does what he does you need to catch him in mid thought sort of a thing.It wont have helped him with the attack either.He needs to meet nice calm dogs as much as and have the chance to learn his mistakes etc.I used to turn Flint around and drag her home if she kicked off i also used a spray collar and it worked a treat but i sprayed her before she kicked off as soon as i was sure she had the thought in her head i said no if she still didnt listen then she got a blast of the spray and it worked a treat even to this day if i shout thats an isnt she will return sharpish to me.Storm im still working on though i doubt he will ever be perfect but he can meet other dogs on lead and be fine as long as the other dogs on a lead and hes pre told he cant act like a tit. well when ive had the time and right enviroment ive sucseesed with the dogs, but it dosnt help in the enviroment he does listen to me and knows am in charge but es always been stubborn like! hopefully get him sorted, jus maken sure me pup is 100% socialisied! Quote Link to post
DogMagic 461 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If his aggression is fear based you being "dominant" will only make things worse. You need to take him out by himself and watch very closely his body language. You will soon see if he is attacking out of pure nastiness or out of fear. Either way, the way to meet new dogs is nose to arse NOT nose to nose. Nose to nose is saying "im the boss back down or im going kick your f*****g head in" in dog. Nose to arse is "i want to get to know you and be friends, shall we go and find some rabbits to chase?". If he shows no aggression when he is by himself it could be that he is acting as protector to the puppy. If this is the case he needs to be reassured by you its not needed and that if it is needed its YOUR job not his. First thing to do is get him out by himself ands see how it goes. Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 If his aggression is fear based you being "dominant" will only make things worse. You need to take him out by himself and watch very closely his body language. You will soon see if he is attacking out of pure nastiness or out of fear. Either way, the way to meet new dogs is nose to arse NOT nose to nose. Nose to nose is saying "im the boss back down or im going kick your f*****g head in" in dog. Nose to arse is "i want to get to know you and be friends, shall we go and find some rabbits to chase?". If he shows no aggression when he is by himself it could be that he is acting as protector to the puppy. If this is the case he needs to be reassured by you its not needed and that if it is needed its YOUR job not his. First thing to do is get him out by himself ands see how it goes. Ive owned that dog for 3years, no other dog wass out with us or a puppy to protect he has always been agrssive, running up to dogs nose to nose as you say and then snap but what you say about sniffing therre arses is right, he sniffs deeply and intesnely and can relax or flip out, he thinks hes dominant of every dog you see, :/ duno wat to do now, because not every dog i meet is guna wana spend 30mins with me getting him okay with it, once hes met a dog and been otroduced he is fine! Quote Link to post
alan626 305 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 wat ur saying sounds like a nerves problem attack first think later,, wat i would do wit is muzzle him get a choke chain and back to basis down to the local parks were u will meet others dogs when he makes a dive give him a strict jerk on the chain i would do this every day 20 times a day he will soon larn that when he goes for other dogs he s sleeping wit a sore neck dont for get the muzzle the last thing u want is a vet bill of an old dear for the lump gone out of her pot licker Quote Link to post
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I dont think hurting him or his neck is the answer here and will end in a vets bill the dogs a whippet theyre delicate at the best of times.Plus if it is fear agression then your making him scared wont help at all infact it will make him worse.The only thing to be acheived there is for the dog to not show signs then your gonna have a lot more work to do in the end 1 Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 wat ur saying sounds like a nerves problem attack first think later,, wat i would do wit is muzzle him get a choke chain and back to basis down to the local parks were u will meet others dogs when he makes a dive give him a strict jerk on the chain i would do this every day 20 times a day he will soon larn that when he goes for other dogs he s sleeping wit a sore neck dont for get the muzzle the last thing u want is a vet bill of an old dear for the lump gone out of her pot licker yeh completly agree gathered some good advice and see how it goes! shud be alright eventually! Quote Link to post
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Andy just reminded me i bought a dog here a rope slip lead and it worked a treat for him without hurting his neck or making him baldy Quote Link to post
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