how much graft?

[TOMO 26,447]

The numbers are very impressive. It would be nigh on impossible to do here, there simply arent the rabbits, on my ground anyway. Mine are out on the lamp probably 2-3 nights a week on average, more when the weather is right and less when its frozen or bright. They are out bushing most days though and at least once a week ferreting. If feel mine work hard for not much reward, i would love to see how they'd do on good ground.

 

the same oppatunities are there for evrybody with car Tyla,, you only have to get in it and drive to a good rabbit spot,,, dont get me wrong if your happy getting a dozen local as i often do,,, then thats fine .... but lads often say on here,"you cant get that many round me",,, no shit!!!,,, get out there and drive

this aint a dig at you Tyla,, just an obsevation about yousing the above statment

 

Thats all true, unfortunately real life sometimes gets in the way! I do a fair amount of driving to get to my spots as they are pretty well scattered and even that hurts with the price of fuel. Im also not into poaching anymore, straying slightly is one thing especially if you know the ground but I cant afford the grief of getting caught. Much though i hate to admit it i have to be sensible now.

 

That said, i have a new pup to start this season and im determined to give her the best chance i can so need to put the rabbits in front of her. I've been searching for new ground over the summer with some success and rested some old spots last season so they should be holding well for this one but none if its spectalular.

 

You might see a post begging for invites come October lol

 

yeh your right though real life does get in the way, wives, kids ,work and as you say fuel is a c**t now, i can remember putting £2 in the tank and doing a 60 mile round trip

[undisputed 1,664]

Nice dog trigger, power to you pal. I'm not saying it's impossible to catch big numbers, the most we(3 dogs) caught in a night was 87. We were trying to get 100 but fell short. That was a one off on a perfect night and we never tried again. It's no secret I know mb and he does more lamping than anyone I know and has more permission than anyone I know lol. He averages 20 to 30 a night. So for anyone to claim 50+ a night REGULAR I find hard to believe.

 

We used to have some good bits in Largo and Biggar where you could take 50 + in a night or more if you wanted...sadly they've been hammered over the years and getting into double figures is a good night now. The most I had from a night was 75 but that was about 15yrs ago.

[Ideation 8,216]

The numbers are very impressive. It would be nigh on impossible to do here, there simply arent the rabbits, on my ground anyway. Mine are out on the lamp probably 2-3 nights a week on average, more when the weather is right and less when its frozen or bright. They are out bushing most days though and at least once a week ferreting. If feel mine work hard for not much reward, i would love to see how they'd do on good ground.

 

the same oppatunities are there for evrybody with car Tyla,, you only have to get in it and drive to a good rabbit spot,,, dont get me wrong if your happy getting a dozen local as i often do,,, then thats fine .... but lads often say on here,"you cant get that many round me",,, no shit!!!,,, get out there and drive

this aint a dig at you Tyla,, just an obsevation about yousing the above statment

 

 

Aye, but seven nights a week for 7 months? With all the other folk apparently doing the same? And you telling me that they are still bagging up 20-30 + rabbits 7 days a week at the end? All of them?

 

You average 25 rabbits a night 7 days a week, which was what was claimed, for 7 months, and that's 5,250 rabbits. Over the season, and obviously more when you take into account all them high 20's, 30's - 60's that folk chat on about.

 

And that's on land where lots of others hunt / poach as well?

 

Fantasy land.

 

If you believed all the folk you here speak, we wouldnt be able to walk down the road without climbing over the rabbits, squeezing past the deer and moving aside the sea of foxes.

[DEERMAN 1,020]

im lucky,i have good lamping partners with good ground and can afford to travel 7 nights a week over a lot of the country ,but i dont know about dogs but every 3/4 nights i have to have a night or 2 off and get 14 hours sleep to recharge my batteries lol

[whippet 99 2,613]

Aye i agree, but sometimes it's jackanory time on here.

 

Also i don't think it's 'graft' if you are walking about a field in the dark trying to find something to slip on.

dont you do the same thing in the day? seen plenty of dogs collapse from being slipped on stuff.

 

whats graft in your eyes.

you seen plenty of dogs collapse, is this a brag of how much work your giving the dogs or something, absoulute discrace, running a dog to the exhaustion of collapsing, what a shame , in all walks of life you get these people, thats the trouble with this game its too easy too let go of a slip and just watch a dog who hasnt recovered from her last run, collapse. cruel , in my eyes and bad judgement, your a joke

[NEWKID 27,277]

The numbers are very impressive. It would be nigh on impossible to do here, there simply arent the rabbits, on my ground anyway. Mine are out on the lamp probably 2-3 nights a week on average, more when the weather is right and less when its frozen or bright. They are out bushing most days though and at least once a week ferreting. If feel mine work hard for not much reward, i would love to see how they'd do on good ground.

 

the same oppatunities are there for evrybody with car Tyla,, you only have to get in it and drive to a good rabbit spot,,, dont get me wrong if your happy getting a dozen local as i often do,,, then thats fine .... but lads often say on here,"you cant get that many round me",,, no shit!!!,,, get out there and drive

this aint a dig at you Tyla,, just an obsevation about yousing the above statment

 

 

Aye, but seven nights a week for 7 months? With all the other folk apparently doing the same? And you telling me that they are still bagging up 20-30 + rabbits 7 days a week at the end? All of them?

 

You average 25 rabbits a night 7 days a week, which was what was claimed, for 7 months, and that's 5,250 rabbits. Over the season, and obviously more when you take into account all them high 20's, 30's - 60's that folk chat on about.

 

And that's on land where lots of others hunt / poach as well?

 

Fantasy land.

 

If you believed all the folk you here speak, we wouldnt be able to walk down the road without climbing over the rabbits, squeezing past the deer and moving aside the sea of foxes.

 

Get off my land

 

 

 

 

[TOMO 26,447]

The numbers are very impressive. It would be nigh on impossible to do here, there simply arent the rabbits, on my ground anyway. Mine are out on the lamp probably 2-3 nights a week on average, more when the weather is right and less when its frozen or bright. They are out bushing most days though and at least once a week ferreting. If feel mine work hard for not much reward, i would love to see how they'd do on good ground.

 

the same oppatunities are there for evrybody with car Tyla,, you only have to get in it and drive to a good rabbit spot,,, dont get me wrong if your happy getting a dozen local as i often do,,, then thats fine .... but lads often say on here,"you cant get that many round me",,, no shit!!!,,, get out there and drive

this aint a dig at you Tyla,, just an obsevation about yousing the above statment

 

 

Aye, but seven nights a week for 7 months? With all the other folk apparently doing the same? And you telling me that they are still bagging up 20-30 + rabbits 7 days a week at the end? All of them?

 

You average 25 rabbits a night 7 days a week, which was what was claimed, for 7 months, and that's 5,250 rabbits. Over the season, and obviously more when you take into account all them high 20's, 30's - 60's that folk chat on about.

 

And that's on land where lots of others hunt / poach as well?

 

Fantasy land.

 

If you believed all the folk you here speak, we wouldnt be able to walk down the road without climbing over the rabbits, squeezing past the deer and moving aside the sea of foxes.

 

dont know why you pasted my post on there i certainly dont beive anyone has taken 10.000 rabits in a season with just 1 dog,,, i dont belive they have done it in 1 year, 5000 rabbits in one year with one dog would be incredible. im not talking ferreting here, and having a dog with ya.

 

ive done 2000rabbits in a season but that was evrything ferreting lamping even a few shot ones

[Ideation 8,216]

The numbers are very impressive. It would be nigh on impossible to do here, there simply arent the rabbits, on my ground anyway. Mine are out on the lamp probably 2-3 nights a week on average, more when the weather is right and less when its frozen or bright. They are out bushing most days though and at least once a week ferreting. If feel mine work hard for not much reward, i would love to see how they'd do on good ground.

 

the same oppatunities are there for evrybody with car Tyla,, you only have to get in it and drive to a good rabbit spot,,, dont get me wrong if your happy getting a dozen local as i often do,,, then thats fine .... but lads often say on here,"you cant get that many round me",,, no shit!!!,,, get out there and drive

this aint a dig at you Tyla,, just an obsevation about yousing the above statment

 

 

Aye, but seven nights a week for 7 months? With all the other folk apparently doing the same? And you telling me that they are still bagging up 20-30 + rabbits 7 days a week at the end? All of them?

 

You average 25 rabbits a night 7 days a week, which was what was claimed, for 7 months, and that's 5,250 rabbits. Over the season, and obviously more when you take into account all them high 20's, 30's - 60's that folk chat on about.

 

And that's on land where lots of others hunt / poach as well?

 

Fantasy land.

 

If you believed all the folk you here speak, we wouldnt be able to walk down the road without climbing over the rabbits, squeezing past the deer and moving aside the sea of foxes.

 

dont know why you pasted my post on there i certainly dont beive anyone has taken 10.000 rabits in a season with just 1 dog,,, i dont belive they have done it in 1 year, 5000 rabbits in one year with one dog would be incredible. im not talking ferreting here, and having a dog with ya.

 

ive done 2000rabbits in a season but that was evrything ferreting lamping even a few shot ones

 

f****n hell mate.

 

I have tried to explain this last time you asked.

 

It was in response to the below post.

 

"if i am only catching upto 20 rabbits a night my dog will go out 7 nights the week. i give my dog the odd nights off through out the season.

 

i will rest him after i have had decent nights out top mid 30s, 40s and 50s the amount of rest depends on how hard hes had to work for the bag.

 

buy being worked regular they seem to pick up less injurys. i even run my dogs on frozen ground. "

 

So i was just doing the rough maths for that claim, and that would put it at over 5000 rabbits for a season sept - march, with a much higher figure once you start chucking in 30-60 rabbits nights every so often.

 

ya get me now? It was not aimed at you, but you asked me to explain it!

[TOMO 26,447]

chill out,,,, you already posted how you came to that number on page 4 ,post 55,,,,,,,

and i havent asked again

 

you quoted my post about somthing entirely difrent, thats why i was wondering what you were on about

[Tyla 3,179]

The numbers are very impressive. It would be nigh on impossible to do here, there simply arent the rabbits, on my ground anyway. Mine are out on the lamp probably 2-3 nights a week on average, more when the weather is right and less when its frozen or bright. They are out bushing most days though and at least once a week ferreting. If feel mine work hard for not much reward, i would love to see how they'd do on good ground.

 

the same oppatunities are there for evrybody with car Tyla,, you only have to get in it and drive to a good rabbit spot,,, dont get me wrong if your happy getting a dozen local as i often do,,, then thats fine .... but lads often say on here,"you cant get that many round me",,, no shit!!!,,, get out there and drive

this aint a dig at you Tyla,, just an obsevation about yousing the above statment

 

Thats all true, unfortunately real life sometimes gets in the way! I do a fair amount of driving to get to my spots as they are pretty well scattered and even that hurts with the price of fuel. Im also not into poaching anymore, straying slightly is one thing especially if you know the ground but I cant afford the grief of getting caught. Much though i hate to admit it i have to be sensible now.

 

That said, i have a new pup to start this season and im determined to give her the best chance i can so need to put the rabbits in front of her. I've been searching for new ground over the summer with some success and rested some old spots last season so they should be holding well for this one but none if its spectalular.

 

You might see a post begging for invites come October lol

 

yeh your right though real life does get in the way, wives, kids ,work and as you say fuel is a c**t now, i can remember putting £2 in the tank and doing a 60 mile round trip

 

Yep, its a bummer. I'd love to be able to go all over running the dogs where i want, when i want and picking the best places with the most quarry. Unfortunately its not going to happen anytime soon. I'll just soldier on working my local bits, i wouldnt even mind the driving but cant risk the poaching. Im self employed and the loss of my van or licence would be the end of the world, maybe i worry too much plenty of folk seem to get away with it. We're surrounded by keepered estates here, which doesnt help, im on good terms with some of them for the ratting and beating, its just a shame they are all determined not to have lurchers on their ground.

[Ideation 8,216]

chill out,,,, you already posted how you came to that number on page 4 ,post 55,,,,,,,

and i havent asked again

 

you quoted my post about somthing entirely difrent, thats why i was wondering what you were on about

 

 

Sorry mate, i cannot use the 'emoticons' thing, so can't stick the "sticky out tongue face" etc so you can see i'm not being angry haha.

 

My point was just that driving about and not just sticking 'local' is fine, and it will increase your bag numbers no doubt, but there are a f**k ton of folk out there doing exactly the same.

 

So even with traveling, to keep a consistent catch rate like that up 7 months of the year, 7 nights a week. Especially at the end of the season?

 

Is, i think. . .

 

Total bullshit.

 

 

There i've said it.

 

(It wasn't a dig at you buddy).

[TOMO 26,447]

chill out,,,, you already posted how you came to that number on page 4 ,post 55,,,,,,,

and i havent asked again

 

you quoted my post about somthing entirely difrent, thats why i was wondering what you were on about

 

 

Sorry mate, i cannot use the 'emoticons' thing, so can't stick the "sticky out tongue face" etc so you can see i'm not being angry haha.

 

My point was just that driving about and not just sticking 'local' is fine, and it will increase your bag numbers no doubt, but there are a f**k ton of folk out there doing exactly the same.

 

So even with traveling, to keep a consistent catch rate like that up 7 months of the year, 7 nights a week. Especially at the end of the season?

 

Is, i think. . .

 

Total bullshit.

 

 

There i've said it.

 

(It wasn't a dig at you buddy).

 

oh i see i agree i dont think you coulld catch those with one dog.

 

my point to tyla , was just to test his dogs once or twice in the season , and get on some good ground,

 

i try to get on good ground once a week in the season weather permitting then once or twice local for an hour or so, family and work permiting ect

[Ideation 8,216]

chill out,,,, you already posted how you came to that number on page 4 ,post 55,,,,,,,

and i havent asked again

 

you quoted my post about somthing entirely difrent, thats why i was wondering what you were on about

 

 

Sorry mate, i cannot use the 'emoticons' thing, so can't stick the "sticky out tongue face" etc so you can see i'm not being angry haha.

 

My point was just that driving about and not just sticking 'local' is fine, and it will increase your bag numbers no doubt, but there are a f**k ton of folk out there doing exactly the same.

 

So even with traveling, to keep a consistent catch rate like that up 7 months of the year, 7 nights a week. Especially at the end of the season?

 

Is, i think. . .

 

Total bullshit.

 

 

There i've said it.

 

(It wasn't a dig at you buddy).

 

oh i see i agree i dont think you coulld catch those with one dog.

 

my point to tyla , was just to test his dogs once or twice in the season , and get on some good ground,

 

i try to get on good ground once a week in the season weather permitting then once or twice local for an hour or so, family and work permiting ect

 

I totally agree mate.

 

It's tough now though, you get some decent ground a fair distance away and it's all good if it works out for you and you can keep it to yourself. But with mixy the way it is, and all the undreds of folk out looking for land to bag up on. . . . . any decent land. . . it's days are usually numbered.

 

Everyone has a car, dog and lamp, and 40 friends to tell about the land they find.

 

You are doing very well if you are taking decent bags all season off land, and it's still producing come feb/march.

 

Most of the places we see, if you did a number of 20/30 rabbits days, you'd see a rapid drop off within a month.

 

But with mixi, and poaching (which starts earlier every year) you usually don't have much past christmas before the land is emptied.

[Catcher 1 639]

As much as I can and I also like to have a travel about to get them on some different terrain and out of there same old, same old comfort zone.....I also like to see other good dogs work as to me that will educate you as to what type of standard you should be setting yourself.

You may have something in your kennel that you think is the dogs bollocks, but take it up on the hill, on to big stubbles, out in the daytime or places it is seeing more game than you can shake a stick at and it may not be all you though it was

 

 

Seems like you have been there.

[Tyla 3,179]

chill out,,,, you already posted how you came to that number on page 4 ,post 55,,,,,,,

and i havent asked again

 

you quoted my post about somthing entirely difrent, thats why i was wondering what you were on about

 

 

Sorry mate, i cannot use the 'emoticons' thing, so can't stick the "sticky out tongue face" etc so you can see i'm not being angry haha.

 

My point was just that driving about and not just sticking 'local' is fine, and it will increase your bag numbers no doubt, but there are a f**k ton of folk out there doing exactly the same.

 

So even with traveling, to keep a consistent catch rate like that up 7 months of the year, 7 nights a week. Especially at the end of the season?

 

Is, i think. . .

 

Total bullshit.

 

 

There i've said it.

 

(It wasn't a dig at you buddy).

 

oh i see i agree i dont think you coulld catch those with one dog.

 

my point to tyla , was just to test his dogs once or twice in the season , and get on some good ground,

 

i try to get on good ground once a week in the season weather permitting then once or twice local for an hour or so, family and work permiting ect

 

Is that an invite? lol