hunting fox and the laws

[chartpolski 24,233]

its legal to flush a fox wae 1 lurcher, if lurcher catches fox before gun can shoot it, well thats just unlucky

 

You can use TWO DOGS to flush to gun, but it's a very grey area in law.... HUNTING foxes with dogs is ilegal

 

Cheers.

 

 

maybe so, but its better to be a grey area than in black an white, stating its not allowed

 

 

HUNTING with dogs is ILEGAL...FLUSHING with dogs to gun is LEGAL... Big difference between the two.

 

Cheers.

 

 

hang a dang mate, surely the only person that knows if they are flushing/hunting, is the person doing the said task

 

 

so if im out hunting, but say im flushing to the gun, but cant get a safe shot when said quarry bolts, an dog catches by mistake.............

 

who can prove it was intentional hunting, an not flushing gone wrong

 

IF you have a gun and are on permission, and you flush with a dog and the dog gets there first, I doubt you would be charged with anything... but I'm answering the lads question; HUNTING, i.e. deliberately chasing a fox with a dog(s), with the intention of killing it with the dogs, is ilegal.

 

Cheers.

[DottyDoo 500]

its legal to flush a fox wae 1 lurcher, if lurcher catches fox before gun can shoot it, well thats just unlucky

 

You can use TWO DOGS to flush to gun, but it's a very grey area in law.... HUNTING foxes with dogs is ilegal

 

Cheers.

 

 

maybe so, but its better to be a grey area than in black an white, stating its not allowed

 

 

HUNTING with dogs is ILEGAL...FLUSHING with dogs to gun is LEGAL... Big difference between the two.

 

Cheers.

 

 

hang a dang mate, surely the only person that knows if they are flushing/hunting, is the person doing the said task

 

 

so if im out hunting, but say im flushing to the gun, but cant get a safe shot when said quarry bolts, an dog catches by mistake.............

 

who can prove it was intentional hunting, an not flushing gone wrong

 

 

That's the thing mate, seems to be YOU have to prove you are innocent rather than vice versa. From folk i have spoken to it seems that trying to convince folk you are using a pair of lurchers to flush to the gun is a bit difficult to 'prove' whereas if you have spaniels etc then your pretty safe. If you have a gun license and it with you, it helps as well.

 

And its the situation isn't it, you kill a fox with a dog, while working cover in the day with a gun, hey it's not your fault the fox didnt bolt but turned and faced the dog in cover.

 

Bit different than standing in a field in the night, in the open, with a lamp and slip lead and no gun, trying to convince folk you were 'shooting and retrieving'

 

 

after my talk with a well regarded hunting lawyer mate, i was under impression the badger act was only law in england/wales that you are automaticaly guilty, an had to prove your innocence.......

 

an i dont think the flushing to gun would go down well in a court of law, if it was an excuse used while lamping lol

 

but for during the day, whether its hare or fox, its a viable excuse, after all like i said, yoyr the only person who can admitt to hunting, instead of flushing....

 

there are a few loop holes in the new hunting act that need expoilted imo

[lurcher330 2,301]

its legal to flush a fox wae 1 lurcher, if lurcher catches fox before gun can shoot it, well thats just unlucky

 

You can use TWO DOGS to flush to gun, but it's a very grey area in law.... HUNTING foxes with dogs is ilegal

 

Cheers.

 

 

maybe so, but its better to be a grey area than in black an white, stating its not allowed

 

 

HUNTING with dogs is ILEGAL...FLUSHING with dogs to gun is LEGAL... Big difference between the two.

 

Cheers.

 

 

hang a dang mate, surely the only person that knows if they are flushing/hunting, is the person doing the said task

 

 

so if im out hunting, but say im flushing to the gun, but cant get a safe shot when said quarry bolts, an dog catches by mistake.............

 

who can prove it was intentional hunting, an not flushing gone wrong

 

 

That's the thing mate, seems to be YOU have to prove you are innocent rather than vice versa. From folk i have spoken to it seems that trying to convince folk you are using a pair of lurchers to flush to the gun is a bit difficult to 'prove' whereas if you have spaniels etc then your pretty safe. If you have a gun license and it with you, it helps as well.

 

And its the situation isn't it, you kill a fox with a dog, while working cover in the day with a gun, hey it's not your fault the fox didnt bolt but turned and faced the dog in cover.

 

Bit different than standing in a field in the night, in the open, with a lamp and slip lead and no gun, trying to convince folk you were 'shooting and retrieving'

what if your out lamping rabbits and when your dog is returning to you and he comes across a fox would that still be classed as hunting

[Ideation 8,216]

I think it's one of them things where it depends on who you are facing as well, some folk would just do you as your dog killed a fox, so therefore intentionally or not, you hunted said fox with a dog, which is illegal. Just cos it's an accident is probably not going to sit well as an excuse, they would ask why you didnt call the dog off. . . . were you not in control of it?

 

Because most of us walk our dogs off lead in the countryside and who can tell what is about to jump out of the next bush. . . . ???

[fireman 10,945]

HUNTING with dogs is ILEGAL...FLUSHING with dogs to gun is LEGAL... Big difference between the two.

 

Cheers.

Thats wrong,you are allowed to hunt for a scent trail and once the animal your hunting for knows it's being hunted thats when it becomes the grey "it's banned" area as likes been said flushing to gun or hawk is legal.The whole ban bit was down to animal stress when being hunted and how can any animal suffer stress if it doesn't know it's being hunted?,it can't and thats why it ain't illigal to hunt up or search for a scent trail.

One thing i'd like to know is how are these animals that are flushed found if hunting is banned?.

FFS peoples hunting ain't banned,it's the catching bit that'll get you nicked.

[Guest joball]

who gives a fuk about the law, have use seen the state of this country

[romany52 313]

Hunting all mammals with dogs is illegal, however there are exemptions for rat and rabbit provided you are the land owner or you have his permission for the purpose of pest control. If you don't have permission you're committing an offence under the hunting act, even for rat and rabbit, so don't forget your just taking the dogs for a walk .

[Saluki bull grey 5]

its legal to flush a fox wae 1 lurcher, if lurcher catches fox before gun can shoot it, well thats just unlucky

 

You can use TWO DOGS to flush to gun, but it's a very grey area in law.... HUNTING foxes with dogs is ilegal

 

Cheers.

 

 

maybe so, but its better to be a grey area than in black an white, stating its not allowed

 

 

HUNTING with dogs is ILEGAL...FLUSHING with dogs to gun is LEGAL... Big difference between the two.

 

Cheers.

 

 

hang a dang mate, surely the only person that knows if they are flushing/hunting, is the person doing the said task

 

 

so if im out hunting, but say im flushing to the gun, but cant get a safe shot when said quarry bolts, an dog catches by mistake.............

 

who can prove it was intentional hunting, an not flushing gone wrong

 

 

That's the thing mate, seems to be YOU have to prove you are innocent rather than vice versa. From folk i have spoken to it seems that trying to convince folk you are using a pair of lurchers to flush to the gun is a bit difficult to 'prove' whereas if you have spaniels etc then your pretty safe. If you have a gun license and it with you, it helps as well.

 

And its the situation isn't it, you kill a fox with a dog, while working cover in the day with a gun, hey it's not your fault the fox didnt bolt but turned and faced the dog in cover.

 

Bit different than standing in a field in the night, in the open, with a lamp and slip lead and no gun, trying to convince folk you were 'shooting and retrieving'

Its not up to you to prove jack shit mate innocent untill proven guilty. If the police cant prove your guilty then case closed

[RossM 8,121]

itss only illegal if you get caught.

so either dont do it or dont get caught.

[Ideation 8,216]

its legal to flush a fox wae 1 lurcher, if lurcher catches fox before gun can shoot it, well thats just unlucky

 

You can use TWO DOGS to flush to gun, but it's a very grey area in law.... HUNTING foxes with dogs is ilegal

 

Cheers.

 

 

maybe so, but its better to be a grey area than in black an white, stating its not allowed

 

 

HUNTING with dogs is ILEGAL...FLUSHING with dogs to gun is LEGAL... Big difference between the two.

 

Cheers.

 

 

hang a dang mate, surely the only person that knows if they are flushing/hunting, is the person doing the said task

 

 

so if im out hunting, but say im flushing to the gun, but cant get a safe shot when said quarry bolts, an dog catches by mistake.............

 

who can prove it was intentional hunting, an not flushing gone wrong

 

 

That's the thing mate, seems to be YOU have to prove you are innocent rather than vice versa. From folk i have spoken to it seems that trying to convince folk you are using a pair of lurchers to flush to the gun is a bit difficult to 'prove' whereas if you have spaniels etc then your pretty safe. If you have a gun license and it with you, it helps as well.

 

And its the situation isn't it, you kill a fox with a dog, while working cover in the day with a gun, hey it's not your fault the fox didnt bolt but turned and faced the dog in cover.

 

Bit different than standing in a field in the night, in the open, with a lamp and slip lead and no gun, trying to convince folk you were 'shooting and retrieving'

Its not up to you to prove jack shit mate innocent untill proven guilty. If the police cant prove your guilty then case closed

 

That my friend would be a great world to live in.

 

Chances are, you are guilty if you are having this conversation.

 

At least you have a dead fox and a dog, and if you don't do some fast explaining then they aint gonna think much else than dog killed fox and your f****d.

[Guest joball]

stop being a bunch of pussy wineing c**ts and just get on with it ffs