andyfr1968 772 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I just think it's a little bit sad when some folks dismiss and look down on other folks without really knowing the first thing about that person because of how they choose to dress I guess it must make them feel better about themselves by giving a nice mental pat on their own backs as to how they are somehow better than the other folks.... Think that about somes it up I agree 100% andyfr1968.....no one has the right to look down on anyone because of how they dress, or make fun of them, some people should take a long hard look at themselves before condemning others for their dress sense, clothing means nothing.....personality means everything!! It's something that really hacks me off. I grew up with the punk/metal thing that was me and my mates and all we got was shit from folks because of the way we looked. Then I got into bikes and got grief form folks 'cos I had long hair, scruffy jeans, leather jacket and all that. These days I shave my head (have done for a long time) and wear jeans and a 'T' shirt kind of stuff. I'm 6'2, slim, fit and I guess I look like something I'm not and I really don't give a feck about how folks view me. Get to know me, then pass an opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 f**k the shows anyway, total waste of time nowadays as most dogs that win them aint even seen a day/nights work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magdon 7 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I think the point that Magdon is trying to make is that there are some folk who seem to think that by wearing this stuff they can be classified as "The hunting fraternity". It is not about snobbery or class, (which, by the way is always usedd as an argument by those who have none......remember an inverted snob is far worse!)but about the stereotypes who wear it. In general Magdon is right. Its a fact. A mere observation however won't change anything though and others will always think the same of those stereotypes. It is not just restricted to game fairs. Go to any rock festival. (Glastonbury is a good example....middle class families trying to fit in with hard core hippies and NATs. You can spot them a mile off. They might as well wear a T-Shirt saying "another thing I've done before I'm 50") People will always be critical of others fashion and rightly so as it would be a boring world to live in otherwise. Its just that the sterotype observed in this instance is recognised almost immediately as correct. If the chav hunters (and they exist!)don't like it then they should do something to change their image. Personally I couldn't care less.......It just makes me smile Rgds the barclys Swampy Vogue Ning PS If I'm wearing "Camo" it is ALWAYS Kalvin Klein DPM (Dirty Pant Material) Swampy You're soooooooo correct. Especially in regards to the lack of class and reverse snobbery. I realised before I made the OP that the Neanderthal types would never manage to grasp the basic concept. Those over shot brows and dragging appendages come with a heavy burden on the intellectual front.Perhaps that might help explain their propensity to wear chavy-cammo everywhere they go. I'm astounded that we've achieved the level of gutter language responses that we have. I was expecting little more than simple grunting and chest beating. Sorry, enough of the derisory mocking remarks. On the hunting fraternity front. Country sports are under enough pressure to have them all banned without the cammo wearing crowd parading around with their bullx's and minging terriers at any and every opportunity. Positive PR is hard enough to come by without having the general and largely uninformed public tarring us all with that particular brush. On a slightly different subject but one that has been raised. I like many of my fellow average joe, tweed wearing, country sportsman was at all 3 Countryside Alliance London Marches as well as the Parliament Square rally. Personally I didn't see a lot of chavy cammo, realtree, or dpm at any of them. Other than on the snivelling anti's that were brave enough to come and chant against us. I did see some terrifically accurate lobbing of half eaten yoghurts and fruit from our side of the barriers. What I also saw were genuine country sports men and women protesting their right to carry on hunting with hounds in the same manner their forefathers had. YIS Magdon Oh alas, poor Magdon, your making an 'ass' of yourself... Your 'sooooooo' (did I get the correct ammount of 'ooo's?) starter, simply said it all to me, along with your shitty punctuation along with wording like 'terrifically', 'average joe', 'forefathers' etc, and me, from a lowley comprehensive.... You Sir, are a fake..!!! Pm 'The B' all you want you helmet, but please don't come on here using 'our' Marches (oh, and by the way, you really didn't attend 'em all!!), 'our' Pride, to raise your status and generalise as to who we all are, of this you know nothing... Enjoy your lonesome little wind-up. Isn't the English language wonderful! It allows so many to make incorrect assumptions, draw the wrong conclusions and make utter pillocks of themselves as Bosun11 has amply demonstrated in his attempt at ridicule. FYI yes I did attend them all. I think I still have the badges. Damned good fun they were to. Even managed to get ourselves into some of the press photos on the second march. Taken as we pasted the Ritz IIRC. Whilst we're on the subject of grammar and spelling. I think you'll find that its amount and lowly comprehensive. grammar , spelling please forgive mine as my P'A useully takes care of such tasks , ah the ritz iam sure the dear twins would have not enjoyed the site of you and your followers trying to gain entry for tea and scones but then iam sure , you would be aware of the dress code, you seem to associate clothing with a persons back ground you can not have attended a lot of hunts or hunt balls were a great many of the poor souls must have got dressed in the dark , but thats another story lets go back to the real tree issue , and bullx and snotty kids wheeling prams , i take it you dont like the latter. bit snobby would you not say i am sure at the cla if you wish to make your self know we could meet up and confront any affending types for you to put you views across and hope you would not mind me recording it , feel free to pm me to arange it, end of the month dont forget I have been out with and had the pleasure of attending quite a number of hunts and hunt balls and have always found those attending to be appropriately attired. Well at the start of the hunt or the ball at least. Perhaps we have just not attended the same ones. I've never been a huge fan of the bullX & minging terrier owning, tatty headed partnered, snotty nosed kids parading, chav cammo wearing show and gamefair attending brigade. TBH I don't know anyone that is a fan. They are mostly objects of derision across the board of country sportsmen from what I can ascertain. Like I said positive PR for all country sports is hard enough to come by. Snobbery has nothing to do with it. A good attitude, a respect for traditions, an appreciation of the occasion , and an understanding of what a spectacle they make of themselves certainly does. Unfortunately belligerence, low intellect and a contempt for those traditional country standards of good manners and friendly respect often goes hand in hand with the choose garb. Not always but to often to be ignored. We have been supplied with ample examples of just that on this thread. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world where every man is judged on an individual basis. Whilst its true that manners do maketh the man. So do cloths and demeanour. You might be the best bloke in the crowd but dressing like a chav, talking like a chav and acting like a chav will see you judged as a chav. Call it destiny in your own hands. Some of the truest countrymen I have had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with have been lurcher and terrier men, from both sides of the fence. Not one of them would be seen dead wearing chav cammo at a show or gamefair. Like I said its about having the right attitude etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest joball Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 f**k the shows anyway, total waste of time nowadays as most dogs that win them aint even seen a day/nights work maybe shows your end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magdon 7 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I think the point that Magdon is trying to make is that there are some folk who seem to think that by wearing this stuff they can be classified as "The hunting fraternity". It is not about snobbery or class, (which, by the way is always usedd as an argument by those who have none......remember an inverted snob is far worse!)but about the stereotypes who wear it. In general Magdon is right. Its a fact. A mere observation however won't change anything though and others will always think the same of those stereotypes. It is not just restricted to game fairs. Go to any rock festival. (Glastonbury is a good example....middle class families trying to fit in with hard core hippies and NATs. You can spot them a mile off. They might as well wear a T-Shirt saying "another thing I've done before I'm 50") People will always be critical of others fashion and rightly so as it would be a boring world to live in otherwise. Its just that the sterotype observed in this instance is recognised almost immediately as correct. If the chav hunters (and they exist!)don't like it then they should do something to change their image. Personally I couldn't care less.......It just makes me smile Rgds the barclys Swampy Vogue Ning PS If I'm wearing "Camo" it is ALWAYS Kalvin Klein DPM (Dirty Pant Material) Swampy You're soooooooo correct. Especially in regards to the lack of class and reverse snobbery. I realised before I made the OP that the Neanderthal types would never manage to grasp the basic concept. Those over shot brows and dragging appendages come with a heavy burden on the intellectual front.Perhaps that might help explain their propensity to wear chavy-cammo everywhere they go. I'm astounded that we've achieved the level of gutter language responses that we have. I was expecting little more than simple grunting and chest beating. Sorry, enough of the derisory mocking remarks. On the hunting fraternity front. Country sports are under enough pressure to have them all banned without the cammo wearing crowd parading around with their bullx's and minging terriers at any and every opportunity. Positive PR is hard enough to come by without having the general and largely uninformed public tarring us all with that particular brush. On a slightly different subject but one that has been raised. I like many of my fellow average joe, tweed wearing, country sportsman was at all 3 Countryside Alliance London Marches as well as the Parliament Square rally. Personally I didn't see a lot of chavy cammo, realtree, or dpm at any of them. Other than on the snivelling anti's that were brave enough to come and chant against us. I did see some terrifically accurate lobbing of half eaten yoghurts and fruit from our side of the barriers. What I also saw were genuine country sports men and women protesting their right to carry on hunting with hounds in the same manner their forefathers had. YIS Magdon Oh alas, poor Magdon, your making an 'ass' of yourself... Your 'sooooooo' (did I get the correct ammount of 'ooo's?) starter, simply said it all to me, along with your shitty punctuation along with wording like 'terrifically', 'average joe', 'forefathers' etc, and me, from a lowley comprehensive.... You Sir, are a fake..!!! Pm 'The B' all you want you helmet, but please don't come on here using 'our' Marches (oh, and by the way, you really didn't attend 'em all!!), 'our' Pride, to raise your status and generalise as to who we all are, of this you know nothing... Enjoy your lonesome little wind-up. Isn't the English language wonderful! It allows so many to make incorrect assumptions, draw the wrong conclusions and make utter pillocks of themselves as Bosun11 has amply demonstrated in his attempt at ridicule. FYI yes I did attend them all. I think I still have the badges. Damned good fun they were to. Even managed to get ourselves into some of the press photos on the second march. Taken as we pasted the Ritz IIRC. Whilst we're on the subject of grammar and spelling. I think you'll find that its amount and lowly comprehensive. grammar , spelling please forgive mine as my P'A useully takes care of such tasks , ah the ritz iam sure the dear twins would have not enjoyed the site of you and your followers trying to gain entry for tea and scones but then iam sure , you would be aware of the dress code, you seem to associate clothing with a persons back ground you can not have attended a lot of hunts or hunt balls were a great many of the poor souls must have got dressed in the dark , but thats another story lets go back to the real tree issue , and bullx and snotty kids wheeling prams , i take it you dont like the latter. bit snobby would you not say i am sure at the cla if you wish to make your self know we could meet up and confront any affending types for you to put you views across and hope you would not mind me recording it , feel free to pm me to arange it, end of the month dont forget I have been out with and had the pleasure of attending quite a number of hunts and hunt balls and have always found those attending to be appropriately attired. Well at the start of the hunt or the ball at least. Perhaps we have just not attended the same ones. I've never been a huge fan of the bullX & minging terrier owning, tatty headed partnered, snotty nosed kids parading, chav cammo wearing show and gamefair attending brigade. TBH I don't know anyone that is a fan. They are mostly objects of derision across the board of country sportsmen from what I can ascertain. Like I said positive PR for all country sports is hard enough to come by. Snobbery has nothing to do with it. A good attitude, a respect for traditions, an appreciation of the occasion , and an understanding of what a spectacle they make of themselves certainly does. Unfortunately belligerence, low intellect and a contempt for those traditional country standards of good manners and friendly respect often goes hand in hand with the choose garb. Not always but to often to be ignored. We have been supplied with ample examples of just that on this thread. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world where every man is judged on an individual basis. Whilst its true that manners do maketh the man. So do cloths and demeanour. You might be the best bloke in the crowd but dressing like a chav, talking like a chav and acting like a chav will see you judged as a chav. Call it destiny in your own hands. Some of the truest countrymen I have had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with have been lurcher and terrier men, from both sides of the fence. Not one of them would be seen dead wearing chav cammo at a show or gamefair. Like I said its about having the right attitude etc. :laugh: "Unfortunately belligerence, low intellect and a contempt for those traditional country standards of good manners and friendly respect often goes hand in hand with the choose garb. Not always but to often to be ignored. We have been supplied with ample examples of just that on this thread." Case proven I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I think the point that Magdon is trying to make is that there are some folk who seem to think that by wearing this stuff they can be classified as "The hunting fraternity". It is not about snobbery or class, (which, by the way is always usedd as an argument by those who have none......remember an inverted snob is far worse!)but about the stereotypes who wear it. In general Magdon is right. Its a fact. A mere observation however won't change anything though and others will always think the same of those stereotypes. It is not just restricted to game fairs. Go to any rock festival. (Glastonbury is a good example....middle class families trying to fit in with hard core hippies and NATs. You can spot them a mile off. They might as well wear a T-Shirt saying "another thing I've done before I'm 50") People will always be critical of others fashion and rightly so as it would be a boring world to live in otherwise. Its just that the sterotype observed in this instance is recognised almost immediately as correct. If the chav hunters (and they exist!)don't like it then they should do something to change their image. Personally I couldn't care less.......It just makes me smile Rgds the barclys Swampy Vogue Ning PS If I'm wearing "Camo" it is ALWAYS Kalvin Klein DPM (Dirty Pant Material) Swampy You're soooooooo correct. Especially in regards to the lack of class and reverse snobbery. I realised before I made the OP that the Neanderthal types would never manage to grasp the basic concept. Those over shot brows and dragging appendages come with a heavy burden on the intellectual front.Perhaps that might help explain their propensity to wear chavy-cammo everywhere they go. I'm astounded that we've achieved the level of gutter language responses that we have. I was expecting little more than simple grunting and chest beating. Sorry, enough of the derisory mocking remarks. On the hunting fraternity front. Country sports are under enough pressure to have them all banned without the cammo wearing crowd parading around with their bullx's and minging terriers at any and every opportunity. Positive PR is hard enough to come by without having the general and largely uninformed public tarring us all with that particular brush. On a slightly different subject but one that has been raised. I like many of my fellow average joe, tweed wearing, country sportsman was at all 3 Countryside Alliance London Marches as well as the Parliament Square rally. Personally I didn't see a lot of chavy cammo, realtree, or dpm at any of them. Other than on the snivelling anti's that were brave enough to come and chant against us. I did see some terrifically accurate lobbing of half eaten yoghurts and fruit from our side of the barriers. What I also saw were genuine country sports men and women protesting their right to carry on hunting with hounds in the same manner their forefathers had. YIS Magdon Oh alas, poor Magdon, your making an 'ass' of yourself... Your 'sooooooo' (did I get the correct ammount of 'ooo's?) starter, simply said it all to me, along with your shitty punctuation along with wording like 'terrifically', 'average joe', 'forefathers' etc, and me, from a lowley comprehensive.... You Sir, are a fake..!!! Pm 'The B' all you want you helmet, but please don't come on here using 'our' Marches (oh, and by the way, you really didn't attend 'em all!!), 'our' Pride, to raise your status and generalise as to who we all are, of this you know nothing... Enjoy your lonesome little wind-up. Isn't the English language wonderful! It allows so many to make incorrect assumptions, draw the wrong conclusions and make utter pillocks of themselves as Bosun11 has amply demonstrated in his attempt at ridicule. FYI yes I did attend them all. I think I still have the badges. Damned good fun they were to. Even managed to get ourselves into some of the press photos on the second march. Taken as we pasted the Ritz IIRC. Whilst we're on the subject of grammar and spelling. I think you'll find that its amount and lowly comprehensive. grammar , spelling please forgive mine as my P'A useully takes care of such tasks , ah the ritz iam sure the dear twins would have not enjoyed the site of you and your followers trying to gain entry for tea and scones but then iam sure , you would be aware of the dress code, you seem to associate clothing with a persons back ground you can not have attended a lot of hunts or hunt balls were a great many of the poor souls must have got dressed in the dark , but thats another story lets go back to the real tree issue , and bullx and snotty kids wheeling prams , i take it you dont like the latter. bit snobby would you not say i am sure at the cla if you wish to make your self know we could meet up and confront any affending types for you to put you views across and hope you would not mind me recording it , feel free to pm me to arange it, end of the month dont forget I have been out with and had the pleasure of attending quite a number of hunts and hunt balls and have always found those attending to be appropriately attired. Well at the start of the hunt or the ball at least. Perhaps we have just not attended the same ones. I've never been a huge fan of the bullX & minging terrier owning, tatty headed partnered, snotty nosed kids parading, chav cammo wearing show and gamefair attending brigade. TBH I don't know anyone that is a fan. They are mostly objects of derision across the board of country sportsmen from what I can ascertain. Like I said positive PR for all country sports is hard enough to come by. Snobbery has nothing to do with it. A good attitude, a respect for traditions, an appreciation of the occasion , and an understanding of what a spectacle they make of themselves certainly does. Unfortunately belligerence, low intellect and a contempt for those traditional country standards of good manners and friendly respect often goes hand in hand with the choose garb. Not always but to often to be ignored. We have been supplied with ample examples of just that on this thread. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world where every man is judged on an individual basis. Whilst its true that manners do maketh the man. So do cloths and demeanour. You might be the best bloke in the crowd but dressing like a chav, talking like a chav and acting like a chav will see you judged as a chav. Call it destiny in your own hands. Some of the truest countrymen I have had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with have been lurcher and terrier men, from both sides of the fence. Not one of them would be seen dead wearing chav cammo at a show or gamefair. Like I said its about having the right attitude etc. :laugh: "Unfortunately belligerence, low intellect and a contempt for those traditional country standards of good manners and friendly respect often goes hand in hand with the choose garb. Not always but to often to be ignored. We have been supplied with ample examples of just that on this thread." Case proven I think. Oh, not by a long shot... If only you knew....! 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shepp 2,285 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) I think the point that Magdon is trying to make is that there are some folk who seem to think that by wearing this stuff they can be classified as "The hunting fraternity". It is not about snobbery or class, (which, by the way is always usedd as an argument by those who have none......remember an inverted snob is far worse!)but about the stereotypes who wear it. In general Magdon is right. Its a fact. A mere observation however won't change anything though and others will always think the same of those stereotypes. It is not just restricted to game fairs. Go to any rock festival. (Glastonbury is a good example....middle class families trying to fit in with hard core hippies and NATs. You can spot them a mile off. They might as well wear a T-Shirt saying "another thing I've done before I'm 50") People will always be critical of others fashion and rightly so as it would be a boring world to live in otherwise. Its just that the sterotype observed in this instance is recognised almost immediately as correct. If the chav hunters (and they exist!)don't like it then they should do something to change their image. Personally I couldn't care less.......It just makes me smile Rgds the barclys Swampy Vogue Ning PS If I'm wearing "Camo" it is ALWAYS Kalvin Klein DPM (Dirty Pant Material) Swampy You're soooooooo correct. Especially in regards to the lack of class and reverse snobbery. I realised before I made the OP that the Neanderthal types would never manage to grasp the basic concept. Those over shot brows and dragging appendages come with a heavy burden on the intellectual front.Perhaps that might help explain their propensity to wear chavy-cammo everywhere they go. I'm astounded that we've achieved the level of gutter language responses that we have. I was expecting little more than simple grunting and chest beating. Sorry, enough of the derisory mocking remarks. On the hunting fraternity front. Country sports are under enough pressure to have them all banned without the cammo wearing crowd parading around with their bullx's and minging terriers at any and every opportunity. Positive PR is hard enough to come by without having the general and largely uninformed public tarring us all with that particular brush. On a slightly different subject but one that has been raised. I like many of my fellow average joe, tweed wearing, country sportsman was at all 3 Countryside Alliance London Marches as well as the Parliament Square rally. Personally I didn't see a lot of chavy cammo, realtree, or dpm at any of them. Other than on the snivelling anti's that were brave enough to come and chant against us. I did see some terrifically accurate lobbing of half eaten yoghurts and fruit from our side of the barriers. What I also saw were genuine country sports men and women protesting their right to carry on hunting with hounds in the same manner their forefathers had. YIS Magdon Oh alas, poor Magdon, your making an 'ass' of yourself... Your 'sooooooo' (did I get the correct ammount of 'ooo's?) starter, simply said it all to me, along with your shitty punctuation along with wording like 'terrifically', 'average joe', 'forefathers' etc, and me, from a lowley comprehensive.... You Sir, are a fake..!!! Pm 'The B' all you want you helmet, but please don't come on here using 'our' Marches (oh, and by the way, you really didn't attend 'em all!!), 'our' Pride, to raise your status and generalise as to who we all are, of this you know nothing... Enjoy your lonesome little wind-up. Isn't the English language wonderful! It allows so many to make incorrect assumptions, draw the wrong conclusions and make utter pillocks of themselves as Bosun11 has amply demonstrated in his attempt at ridicule. FYI yes I did attend them all. I think I still have the badges. Damned good fun they were to. Even managed to get ourselves into some of the press photos on the second march. Taken as we pasted the Ritz IIRC. Whilst we're on the subject of grammar and spelling. I think you'll find that its amount and lowly comprehensive. grammar , spelling please forgive mine as my P'A useully takes care of such tasks , ah the ritz iam sure the dear twins would have not enjoyed the site of you and your followers trying to gain entry for tea and scones but then iam sure , you would be aware of the dress code, you seem to associate clothing with a persons back ground you can not have attended a lot of hunts or hunt balls were a great many of the poor souls must have got dressed in the dark , but thats another story lets go back to the real tree issue , and bullx and snotty kids wheeling prams , i take it you dont like the latter. bit snobby would you not say i am sure at the cla if you wish to make your self know we could meet up and confront any affending types for you to put you views across and hope you would not mind me recording it , feel free to pm me to arange it, end of the month dont forget I have been out with and had the pleasure of attending quite a number of hunts and hunt balls and have always found those attending to be appropriately attired. Well at the start of the hunt or the ball at least. Perhaps we have just not attended the same ones. I've never been a huge fan of the bullX & minging terrier owning, tatty headed partnered, snotty nosed kids parading, chav cammo wearing show and gamefair attending brigade. TBH I don't know anyone that is a fan. They are mostly objects of derision across the board of country sportsmen from what I can ascertain. Like I said positive PR for all country sports is hard enough to come by. Snobbery has nothing to do with it. A good attitude, a respect for traditions, an appreciation of the occasion , and an understanding of what a spectacle they make of themselves certainly does. Unfortunately belligerence, low intellect and a contempt for those traditional country standards of good manners and friendly respect often goes hand in hand with the choose garb. Not always but to often to be ignored. We have been supplied with ample examples of just that on this thread. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world where every man is judged on an individual basis. Whilst its true that manners do maketh the man. So do cloths and demeanour. You might be the best bloke in the crowd but dressing like a chav, talking like a chav and acting like a chav will see you judged as a chav. Call it destiny in your own hands. Some of the truest countrymen I have had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with have been lurcher and terrier men, from both sides of the fence. Not one of them would be seen dead wearing chav cammo at a show or gamefair. Like I said its about having the right attitude etc. :laugh: To Magdon, Positive PR? I am sure you can remember the reason for the hunting with dogs ban, it had nothing to do with lurcher or terrier men, camo chavs or not as the case may be. The ban was lobbied by animal rights organisations (usually left wing activists) but implimented by class obsessed left wingers mainly of the Labour and Liberal Parties, as a way of getting one over on the toffs. Of course it was utterly misguided as all types attend hunt meetings, but ignorance is there signature as we all know. So if you are concerned about bad PR then you might as well give up because those against hunting will always hate you more than the average hairy arsed lurcher or terrier man. The lurcher and terrier men have a lot to be angry about as they were dragged into a situation not even designed for them and they are effected the most by the ban. Edited July 11, 2011 by shepp 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Bosun11 537 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I think the point that Magdon is trying to make is that there are some folk who seem to think that by wearing this stuff they can be classified as "The hunting fraternity". It is not about snobbery or class, (which, by the way is always usedd as an argument by those who have none......remember an inverted snob is far worse!)but about the stereotypes who wear it. In general Magdon is right. Its a fact. A mere observation however won't change anything though and others will always think the same of those stereotypes. It is not just restricted to game fairs. Go to any rock festival. (Glastonbury is a good example....middle class families trying to fit in with hard core hippies and NATs. You can spot them a mile off. They might as well wear a T-Shirt saying "another thing I've done before I'm 50") People will always be critical of others fashion and rightly so as it would be a boring world to live in otherwise. Its just that the sterotype observed in this instance is recognised almost immediately as correct. If the chav hunters (and they exist!)don't like it then they should do something to change their image. Personally I couldn't care less.......It just makes me smile Rgds the barclys Swampy Vogue Ning PS If I'm wearing "Camo" it is ALWAYS Kalvin Klein DPM (Dirty Pant Material) Swampy You're soooooooo correct. Especially in regards to the lack of class and reverse snobbery. I realised before I made the OP that the Neanderthal types would never manage to grasp the basic concept. Those over shot brows and dragging appendages come with a heavy burden on the intellectual front.Perhaps that might help explain their propensity to wear chavy-cammo everywhere they go. I'm astounded that we've achieved the level of gutter language responses that we have. I was expecting little more than simple grunting and chest beating. Sorry, enough of the derisory mocking remarks. On the hunting fraternity front. Country sports are under enough pressure to have them all banned without the cammo wearing crowd parading around with their bullx's and minging terriers at any and every opportunity. Positive PR is hard enough to come by without having the general and largely uninformed public tarring us all with that particular brush. On a slightly different subject but one that has been raised. I like many of my fellow average joe, tweed wearing, country sportsman was at all 3 Countryside Alliance London Marches as well as the Parliament Square rally. Personally I didn't see a lot of chavy cammo, realtree, or dpm at any of them. Other than on the snivelling anti's that were brave enough to come and chant against us. I did see some terrifically accurate lobbing of half eaten yoghurts and fruit from our side of the barriers. What I also saw were genuine country sports men and women protesting their right to carry on hunting with hounds in the same manner their forefathers had. YIS Magdon Oh alas, poor Magdon, your making an 'ass' of yourself... Your 'sooooooo' (did I get the correct ammount of 'ooo's?) starter, simply said it all to me, along with your shitty punctuation along with wording like 'terrifically', 'average joe', 'forefathers' etc, and me, from a lowley comprehensive.... You Sir, are a fake..!!! Pm 'The B' all you want you helmet, but please don't come on here using 'our' Marches (oh, and by the way, you really didn't attend 'em all!!), 'our' Pride, to raise your status and generalise as to who we all are, of this you know nothing... Enjoy your lonesome little wind-up. Isn't the English language wonderful! It allows so many to make incorrect assumptions, draw the wrong conclusions and make utter pillocks of themselves as Bosun11 has amply demonstrated in his attempt at ridicule. FYI yes I did attend them all. I think I still have the badges. Damned good fun they were to. Even managed to get ourselves into some of the press photos on the second march. Taken as we pasted the Ritz IIRC. Whilst we're on the subject of grammar and spelling. I think you'll find that its amount and lowly comprehensive. grammar , spelling please forgive mine as my P'A useully takes care of such tasks , ah the ritz iam sure the dear twins would have not enjoyed the site of you and your followers trying to gain entry for tea and scones but then iam sure , you would be aware of the dress code, you seem to associate clothing with a persons back ground you can not have attended a lot of hunts or hunt balls were a great many of the poor souls must have got dressed in the dark , but thats another story lets go back to the real tree issue , and bullx and snotty kids wheeling prams , i take it you dont like the latter. bit snobby would you not say i am sure at the cla if you wish to make your self know we could meet up and confront any affending types for you to put you views across and hope you would not mind me recording it , feel free to pm me to arange it, end of the month dont forget I have been out with and had the pleasure of attending quite a number of hunts and hunt balls and have always found those attending to be appropriately attired. Well at the start of the hunt or the ball at least. Perhaps we have just not attended the same ones. I've never been a huge fan of the bullX & minging terrier owning, tatty headed partnered, snotty nosed kids parading, chav cammo wearing show and gamefair attending brigade. TBH I don't know anyone that is a fan. They are mostly objects of derision across the board of country sportsmen from what I can ascertain. Like I said positive PR for all country sports is hard enough to come by. Snobbery has nothing to do with it. A good attitude, a respect for traditions, an appreciation of the occasion , and an understanding of what a spectacle they make of themselves certainly does. Unfortunately belligerence, low intellect and a contempt for those traditional country standards of good manners and friendly respect often goes hand in hand with the choose garb. Not always but to often to be ignored. We have been supplied with ample examples of just that on this thread. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world where every man is judged on an individual basis. Whilst its true that manners do maketh the man. So do cloths and demeanour. You might be the best bloke in the crowd but dressing like a chav, talking like a chav and acting like a chav will see you judged as a chav. Call it destiny in your own hands. Some of the truest countrymen I have had the pleasure of knowing and spending time with have been lurcher and terrier men, from both sides of the fence. Not one of them would be seen dead wearing chav cammo at a show or gamefair. Like I said its about having the right attitude etc. :laugh: Positive PR? I am sure you can remember the reason for the hunting with dogs ban, it had nothing to do with lurcher or terrier men, camo chavs or not as the case may be. The ban was lobbied by animal rights organisations (usually left wing activists) but implimented by class obsessed left wingers mainly of the Labour and Liberal Parties, as a way of getting one over on the toffs. Of course it was utterly misguided as all types attend hunt meetings, but ignorance is there signature as we all know. So if you are concerned about bad PR then you might as well give up because those against hunting will always hate you more than the average hairy arsed lurcher or terrier man. The lurcher and terrier men have a lot to be angry about as they were dragged into a situation not even designed for them and they are effected the most by the ban. Now f**k off and stop acting like a c**t! Christ mate, I was just about to throw a reply up (on behalf of me an AT! ) but I ain't gonna beat that! Lets be honest though, Mogadon is a phoney, just someone on here of a piss take and whatever anyone posts we are gonna get the same 'ol arsey replys, you know what is sad, is that many on here just don't see dress (or dogs, especially dogs!)) as any form of class and have good friends in all walks of life, its a pity that some make the choice to burn bridges (for fun!) by seeing it very different... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Bosun I think he is classed as a troll in the internet world http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll I agree mate, there are good and bad from all back grounds and in pretty even numbers in my experience. All the best Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyfr1968 772 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Bosun I think he is classed as a troll in the internet world http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll I agree mate, there are good and bad from all back grounds and in pretty even numbers in my experience. All the best Interesting link, Shepp, but I think in this case that this prat's not a troll in these circumstance as hardly anyone agrees with 'him' and almost everyone thinks he's a tosser I can't stand snobs in fact I look down on them. I'm an elitist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Mainly his last post AT If people read what he wrote without getting uptight about it then they might see he is not on about every bull cross lurcher owner, or eveyone who wears real tree. But there certainly is the 'type' of person he describes at lurchers shows, just the same as there will be in all walks of life. I also agree that manners and etiquette are diminishing. Little things like....I can remember when finalists in the lurcher/terrier ring would all shake the hand of the judge and each other, you hardly ever see that happen anymore. But they are diminishing in everything in life now, not just the hunting scene. Magdon has put his point across (whether you agree with it or not) very eloquently, not once has he used foul language or been abusive. Just look at some of the remarks back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyfr1968 772 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Mainly his last post AT If people read what he wrote without getting uptight about it then they might see he is not on about every bull cross lurcher owner, or eveyone who wears real tree. But there certainly is the 'type' of person he describes at lurchers shows, just the same as there will be in all walks of life. I also agree that manners and etiquette are diminishing. Little things like....I can remember when finalists in the lurcher/terrier ring would all shake the hand of the judge and each other, you hardly ever see that happen anymore. But they are diminishing in everything in life now, not just the hunting scene. Magdon has put his point across (whether you agree with it or not) very eloquently, not once has he used foul language or been abusive. Just look at some of the remarks back. You've a fair pont, Moll, but the OP was rather sweaping and dismissive, don't you think? A little more tollerance and thought wouldn't go amiss in the world. It may even help folks from different walks of life get on a bit better 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Mainly his last post AT If people read what he wrote without getting uptight about it then they might see he is not on about every bull cross lurcher owner, or eveyone who wears real tree. But there certainly is the 'type' of person he describes at lurchers shows, just the same as there will be in all walks of life. I also agree that manners and etiquette are diminishing. Little things like....I can remember when finalists in the lurcher/terrier ring would all shake the hand of the judge and each other, you hardly ever see that happen anymore. But they are diminishing in everything in life now, not just the hunting scene. Magdon has put his point across (whether you agree with it or not) very eloquently, not once has he used foul language or been abusive. Just look at some of the remarks back. You've a fair pont, Moll, but the OP was rather sweaping and dismissive, don't you think? A little more tollerance and thought wouldn't go amiss in the world. It may even help folks from different walks of life get on a bit better Some of his posts, i can understand and agree with him, probably because i am looking at it with an unbiased eye, the things he say's do not effect or bother me so i do not get irritated by it. Even though i am a bull x owning camo wearer Some of the things he say's are definitely to wind people up Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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