mick1212 389 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 I thought old "Mogadon" may come back strong with a reply to my post, but it looks like he is floundering a bit. There used to be a chap on Pigeon Watch who wrote in almost the exact same style as "Mogadon", he had worked for the RSPCA but was of course in no way an anti! I mean seriously, LONGDOGS?.....BAITING?......this clown is reading it all out of a book and is as ingnorant about hunting with dogs as he is pompus. Private medical.....blah blah blah........Started my own business........blah blah blah We have a name for such people in my neck of the woods, we call them a "Two bob millionaire" who need to keep dropping hints about themselves What a comical figure he is! Oh well WILF. I guess I'll just have to stay ignorant of hunting with dogs. Still good to know you've still no answer to the question regarding the ethics and moralities that saw coursing and the vast majority of terrier work banned. We too have a name for such people in my neck of the woods........and it ain't 2 bob millionaires. Comical they certainly are. Anti Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 I thought old "Mogadon" may come back strong with a reply to my post, but it looks like he is floundering a bit. There used to be a chap on Pigeon Watch who wrote in almost the exact same style as "Mogadon", he had worked for the RSPCA but was of course in no way an anti! I mean seriously, LONGDOGS?.....BAITING?......this clown is reading it all out of a book and is as ingnorant about hunting with dogs as he is pompus. Private medical.....blah blah blah........Started my own business........blah blah blah We have a name for such people in my neck of the woods, we call them a "Two bob millionaire" who need to keep dropping hints about themselves What a comical figure he is! Oh well WILF. I guess I'll just have to stay ignorant of hunting with dogs. Still good to know you've still no answer to the question regarding the ethics and moralities that saw coursing and the vast majority of terrier work banned. We too have a name for such people in my neck of the woods........and it ain't 2 bob millionaires. Comical they certainly are. Why would anyone entertain a discussion with an anti as to the ethics of hunting with dogs, to my mind there is no discussion to be had, hunting with dogs is just as ethical as any other form of hunting (in fact more so as it is less indiscriminate then other methods of control) If your looking for a discussion on the ethics of hunting with dogs best head back to your anti forums. After all you started this thread to berate a social class/group not to talk anti Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magdon 7 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 If its of no consequence what people think why go to the trouble of mentioning it? You have started a thread to put down a specific group, put people down for the level of their education/written responses as well as writing snippets of information relating to running your own business your private medical insurance. I think your on the wind up trying to illicit a response through writing stuff you know will cause grief. I think you like putting people down because it makes you feel better about yourself. Bit sad really as for credentialise I am not sure if it is officially a word or not. I have heard it used plenty within the industry i work within, usually in the context of justifying existence through providing of citations, qualifications, experience etc.. It was mentioned merely as a light hearted response to an inane ond puerile suggestion. No big deal. The Op was intended to illustrate the ridiculousness of certain choices, certain behavioural types and certain attitudes. I think it has achieved that and more. As ample examples of those ridiculous choices, behaviours and attitudes have been more than ably supplied by some of the contributors to this thread. Yourself excluded of course. Credentialise certainly doesn't appear in the OED, the universally recognised authority on what is and what isn't english. Must be just another example of the industry jargon usages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick1212 389 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 I thought old "Mogadon" may come back strong with a reply to my post, but it looks like he is floundering a bit. There used to be a chap on Pigeon Watch who wrote in almost the exact same style as "Mogadon", he had worked for the RSPCA but was of course in no way an anti! I mean seriously, LONGDOGS?.....BAITING?......this clown is reading it all out of a book and is as ingnorant about hunting with dogs as he is pompus. Private medical.....blah blah blah........Started my own business........blah blah blah We have a name for such people in my neck of the woods, we call them a "Two bob millionaire" who need to keep dropping hints about themselves What a comical figure he is! Oh well WILF. I guess I'll just have to stay ignorant of hunting with dogs. Still good to know you've still no answer to the question regarding the ethics and moralities that saw coursing and the vast majority of terrier work banned. We too have a name for such people in my neck of the woods........and it ain't 2 bob millionaires. Comical they certainly are. Why would anyone entertain a discussion with an anti as to the ethics of hunting with dogs, to my mind there is no discussion to be had, hunting with dogs is just as ethical as any other form of hunting (in fact more so as it is less indiscriminate then other methods of control) If your looking for a discussion on the ethics of hunting with dogs best head back to your anti forums. After all you started this thread to berate a social class/group not to talk anti magdon anti should be banned get him off here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magdon 7 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 one last point,every game fair i been to.i have seen the usual snooty b*****ds looking down on other people.usually the plus four brigade drinking port and guffawing loudly and patting each other on the back.I suspect if you lot had your way,there would only be your like allowed at these game fairs. flip side to that,i have also meet well to do people who were actually the salt of the earth and spoke to you normally and actually interested in what you had to say.and at that time i was a young lad and a bit of a terror. I've never said that there wasn't good and bad from both sides of the social divide. Like you I have met good from every walk of life. However they usually had a few things in common, the right attitude, respect for others and common politeness. Qualities sadly lacking in much of modern society today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Still good to know you've still no answer to the question regarding the ethics and moralities that saw coursing and the vast majority of terrier work banned. So what is the answer Magdon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 you should approach one of them shaved headed tattoed lads,and explain in depth what you think of thier apperance and thier attire.im sure they would love a chance to defend themselfs.Do you actually realise how f*****g stupid you are.Ian should just ban your sorry arse from here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fcuktheban 140 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 :search: Is he gone yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 If its of no consequence what people think why go to the trouble of mentioning it? You have started a thread to put down a specific group, put people down for the level of their education/written responses as well as writing snippets of information relating to running your own business your private medical insurance. I think your on the wind up trying to illicit a response through writing stuff you know will cause grief. I think you like putting people down because it makes you feel better about yourself. Bit sad really as for credentialise I am not sure if it is officially a word or not. I have heard it used plenty within the industry i work within, usually in the context of justifying existence through providing of citations, qualifications, experience etc.. It was mentioned merely as a light hearted response to an inane ond puerile suggestion. No big deal. The Op was intended to illustrate the ridiculousness of certain choices, certain behavioural types and certain attitudes. I think it has achieved that and more. As ample examples of those ridiculous choices, behaviours and attitudes have been more than ably supplied by some of the contributors to this thread. Yourself excluded of course. Credentialise certainly doesn't appear in the OED, the universally recognised authority on what is and what isn't english. Must be just another example of the industry jargon usages. Your original point about what people wear at game fairs has largely been buried by your references to class/education and your continuous insistence as to your level of intelligence/social standing employment status and all your other attempts to convince people that you don't actually know on an internet forum how special/important/intelligent you are. The intention behind the use of the word 'credentialise' is in the meaning, if it is not in the oxford dictionary, I don't care. At the end of the day you understood what I meant and have chosen to make an issue of whether it exists or not. Back to my original point, I don't know why you feel the need to berate people in order to make yourself feel better, Is it because after all those years of education (which appears to have consisted of memorising what is or isn't in the dictionary) you feel you have let yourself down. Is this why you are insecure about your success? and feel the need to tell strangers how fantastic you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richie10 345 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Magdon/Rasher, Still spouting the same old lines, morals, ethics, hygiene, behavourial types and choices. All rehearsed lines and quotes to try and get your muted point over. As you never answered me before there is no moral difference between shooting and hunting, just the percieved idea that one is cruel than the other, when in reality everyone knows the truth that has any experience. You find it abhorent because it's less deer for you to blast if it was brought back and that you wouldn't be able to charge high venison prices because of the extra cost of your OCD. In your definition it is morally correct to pepper pheasants with shot, which in alot of case especially high birds, doesn't kill outright but wrong for a dog to catch and hold a deer while someone dispatches it. Correct? Edited July 11, 2011 by Richie10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magdon 7 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Moll "Baiting" happens. Whether terriermen like it or not. The fact that it is such an emotive topic on both sides is simply unavoidable. The digging of foxes is equally emotive for a large number of people from many elements of society. In my defence whilst I have been accused of class snobbery I don't consider my self guilty. If you can find anywhere that I have singled out a particular class of society for comment please point it out. You'll have to forgive me in regards to the Danny character. I was never a reader of the Moochers forum. I hope that I have explained myself sufficiently I have heard about baiting, badger baiting in fact. But the ironic thing, i only ever heard of it happening in the media, i know a great many digging people, people who used to dig to badger when it was still legal. And not one of them actually knew anyone who did actually bait badgers then, nor since. I hate to think of the type of people you must associate with that baiting actually happens! But then again i do think it is all a play on words, very similar to the media's way of brainwashing, the mention of baiting, terrier men, and digging to fox all in the same paragraph. Just as deer coursing was side by side with Bull baiting, cockfighting, infant child labour Was shooting guns, tweed cloth and fishing not also around at the same time as those examples. After all most things are historically connected if you look hard enough Perhaps some people would have sacrificed coursing to save other types of hunting, after all there are selfish people everywhere who will only think of themselves rather than the whole picture. As i am sure there were people who would have been horrified at the idea. You have already proven your stance regarding class snobbery so i don't think i need to answer that do you You are becoming very transparent Magdon Moll Certain people would have you believe that organised dog fight was a thing f the past as well. Not so. Yes shooting, tweed, and fishing were around.The fact that they remain completely legal and accepted says a great deal about them. Wouldn't you say? I'm sure there would be people who would be horrified at thought of willing giving up coursing. But when you're faced with defending the indefensible and all that you have is a lame claim to historical continuence what would you have done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fcuktheban 140 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 sounds like an anit trying to seperate us, I wouldn't bother continuing a conversation with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Tic tock Tic Tock........Thats the sound of your lives being wasted,as you give a trouble maker,or anti,the time of day.He wants to wind you up and he is.When in reality his or others beliefs make no difference to what we do in the slightest. I actually found it entertaining, thought provoking, something to get the old grey matter working. I enjoy a good debate It's not really a debate when someone believes their view is 100 % fact and assumes that anyone who disagrees must be part of the 'problem' they are moaning about. Magdon - from what you are saying, am i right in taking it, that you believe that someone's "attitude, level of respect for others and politeness" can be judged from the clothes that they decide to wear to a game fair? To be fair, a lot can be inferred from what you write, about YOUR attitude, level of respect for others and general politeness. The fact that you spend so much of your time judging peoples entire personality based upon their attire, shows that you are a pretty flawed person. As for what got terrier work and coursing banned. . . .. come on, we all know the answer to that one. It was the hatred by the left wing, of what they saw as, a load of toffs riding about dressed in silly clothes, drinking sherry and attempting to run down a fox. Whilst the hard-core lacs etc, may well have had an axe to grind against terrier men etc, for most it was not the 'hunting with dogs bill' but the 'fox hunting bill' and many who voted for it, even now, don't realize what exactly was banned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richie10 345 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 one last point,every game fair i been to.i have seen the usual snooty b*****ds looking down on other people.usually the plus four brigade drinking port and guffawing loudly and patting each other on the back.I suspect if you lot had your way,there would only be your like allowed at these game fairs. flip side to that,i have also meet well to do people who were actually the salt of the earth and spoke to you normally and actually interested in what you had to say.and at that time i was a young lad and a bit of a terror. I've never said that there wasn't good and bad from both sides of the social divide. Like you I have met good from every walk of life. However they usually had a few things in common, the right attitude, respect for others and common politeness. Qualities sadly lacking in much of modern society today. You were singing the virtues of modern society before, now you are saying they are lacking make up your mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Moll "Baiting" happens. Whether terriermen like it or not. The fact that it is such an emotive topic on both sides is simply unavoidable. The digging of foxes is equally emotive for a large number of people from many elements of society. In my defence whilst I have been accused of class snobbery I don't consider my self guilty. If you can find anywhere that I have singled out a particular class of society for comment please point it out. You'll have to forgive me in regards to the Danny character. I was never a reader of the Moochers forum. I hope that I have explained myself sufficiently I have heard about baiting, badger baiting in fact. But the ironic thing, i only ever heard of it happening in the media, i know a great many digging people, people who used to dig to badger when it was still legal. And not one of them actually knew anyone who did actually bait badgers then, nor since. I hate to think of the type of people you must associate with that baiting actually happens! But then again i do think it is all a play on words, very similar to the media's way of brainwashing, the mention of baiting, terrier men, and digging to fox all in the same paragraph. Just as deer coursing was side by side with Bull baiting, cockfighting, infant child labour Was shooting guns, tweed cloth and fishing not also around at the same time as those examples. After all most things are historically connected if you look hard enough Perhaps some people would have sacrificed coursing to save other types of hunting, after all there are selfish people everywhere who will only think of themselves rather than the whole picture. As i am sure there were people who would have been horrified at the idea. You have already proven your stance regarding class snobbery so i don't think i need to answer that do you You are becoming very transparent Magdon Moll Certain people would have you believe that organised dog fight was a thing f the past as well. Not so. Yes shooting, tweed, and fishing were around.The fact that they remain completely legal and accepted says a great deal about them. Wouldn't you say? I'm sure there would be people who would be horrified at thought of willing giving up coursing. But when you're faced with defending the indefensible and all that you have is a lame claim to historical continuence what would you have done? So are you trying to say that sports such as hare coursing are 'indefensible' ? Now for your first bit - i don't think that you can claim that shooting, fishing or indeed tweed "remain completely legal and accepted" - Many animal rights groups etc are trying (and have been for a long time) to ban both game fishing and game shooting, and even among the field-sport world, many find driven shoots distasteful. As for tweed - i'm sure many people think it's daft. I would argue that a lot of what makes them remain completely legal is the money involved in the industry, something that terrier work, coursing etc will never come close to Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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