Anyone ever outcross to wild polecat ?? (breeding)

[inan 841]

Was the article by Les white by any chance i cant see the point in trying to create an animal thats half domesticated & half wild :whistle:

yes I beleive it was,I agree with you on this one. Inan.

[OldTrapCollector 377]

this year i am having a mink cross ferret,not for rabbits and from what i have heard these crosses are hard work again,doubt i will have much luck with it or i could be wrong,the lad who has the mink at the moment seems confident that he wil have all the young ones hand tame,he has been in the game for years and so have all his family and would not say anything unless he had faith in doing it,for rabbits i will be sticking to my old small jill and hob,keep hunting

 

Wife,

 

The cross between the mink and the ferret you speak of is not genetically possible as far as I know.

 

Mustela Vison (Mink) and Mustela Putorius Furo (Ferret) are seperate species and cannot interbreed. The cross with the Mustela Putorius (European Polecat) is possible because the ferret is a semi-domesticated sub-species of the same animal. The same is true of apparent crosses with the Stoat (Mustela Erminea) whose existence is also fictional.

 

I have a feeling your friend is either having you on, or the creature he has labelled a mink is not what he thinks it is . . .

 

OTC

[Kay 3,709]

Maybe its just me but what is the attraction , why would anyone want a ferret poley hybrid for a working , they are skitty, muddled , aggressive, and downright useless, why create such an animal, common sence tells me a serious ferreter needs a well bred ferret who can be passed over hedges from person to person , or am i completly missing the point.

 

another worry is they are a liability, if ever such an animal got out of its secure housing , what damage could it do, i have been on the receiving end of polecat hybrid some prick thought it would be fun to breed for the show fraternaty, it was a bloody nightmare & i personlly dont have time to f**k about with welding gloves & all the rest if it

 

god give me strength

 

Eddited to add

Please think about the rescues who do end up with these animals when the pricks who bred then couldnt handle them, i know of one rescue in the uk who has several of these animals,

[Guest Magwitch]

the kits i bred using a polecat sire didn't bite they were just hand shy when out ferreting they would dart back down the bury when you went to pick them up

[Kay 3,709]

the kits i bred using a polecat sire didn't bite they were just hand shy when out ferreting they would dart back down the bury when you went to pick them up

 

Exactly my point no good to anyone, if you have to fanny about coaxing a ferret out of a hole its poinless unless you have all day

[Guest Magwitch]

the kits i bred using a polecat sire didn't bite they were just hand shy when out ferreting they would dart back down the bury when you went to pick them up

 

Exactly my point no good to anyone, if you have to fanny about coaxing a ferret out of a hole its poinless unless you have all day

as working ferrets i agree if you read my first reply i stated they were hand shy but then again you get hand shy ferrets don't you

[Kay 3,709]

I can only think of one valid reason any ferret would be hand shy, its had no handling as a kit, thats down to the breeder isnt it, to ensure there all handlable before they go off to new homes, yeah we all get kit nips with young ferrets but with plenty of meat & handling it shouldnt be a problem, but hybrids arnt just hand shy though , there something that shouldnt have been bred in the first place

[wife 1]

this year i am having a mink cross ferret,not for rabbits and from what i have heard these crosses are hard work again,doubt i will have much luck with it or i could be wrong,the lad who has the mink at the moment seems confident that he wil have all the young ones hand tame,he has been in the game for years and so have all his family and would not say anything unless he had faith in doing it,for rabbits i will be sticking to my old small jill and hob,keep hunting

 

Wife,

 

The cross between the mink and the ferret you speak of is not genetically possible as far as I know.

 

Mustela Vison (Mink) and Mustela Putorius Furo (Ferret) are seperate species and cannot interbreed. The cross with the Mustela Putorius (European Polecat) is possible because the ferret is a semi-domesticated sub-species of the same animal. The same is true of apparent crosses with the Stoat (Mustela Erminea) whose existence is also fictional.

 

I have a feeling your friend is either having you on, or the creature he has labelled a mink is not what he thinks it is . . .

 

OTC

 

here we go mate,have a look,a few pics of his ferret and mink in together

 

 

 

a ferret is but a domesticated polecat and it is genetically possible according to vets i have spoken to,only time will tell and the mink and ferret have been together for a good 6 months plus,will see what happens this summer

in the last section of the bit below about khonoriks it sais(The word "khonorik" sounds more attractive and euphonic in the Russian language than the word "horjok" (i.e. ferret) does, therefore some ferret vendors say: "my animals are not ferrets, but khonoriks, a cross between a ferret and a mink" even now. In addition some journalists show their ignorance and write about ferrets as about khonoriks.

http://www.ferret.ru/eng/khonorik.html

the result below

 

 

[wife 1]

this year i am having a mink cross ferret,not for rabbits and from what i have heard these crosses are hard work again,doubt i will have much luck with it or i could be wrong,the lad who has the mink at the moment seems confident that he wil have all the young ones hand tame,he has been in the game for years and so have all his family and would not say anything unless he had faith in doing it,for rabbits i will be sticking to my old small jill and hob,keep hunting

 

Wife,

 

The cross between the mink and the ferret you speak of is not genetically possible as far as I know.

 

Mustela Vison (Mink) and Mustela Putorius Furo (Ferret) are seperate species and cannot interbreed. The cross with the Mustela Putorius (European Polecat) is possible because the ferret is a semi-domesticated sub-species of the same animal. The same is true of apparent crosses with the Stoat (Mustela Erminea) whose existence is also fictional.

 

I have a feeling your friend is either having you on, or the creature he has labelled a mink is not what he thinks it is . . .

 

OTC

 

here we go mate,have a look,a few pics of his ferret and mink in together

 

 

 

a ferret is but a domesticated polecat and it is genetically possible according to vets i have spoken to,only time will tell and the mink and ferret have been together for a good 6 months plus,will see what happens this summer

in the last section of the bit below about khonoriks it sais(The word "khonorik" sounds more attractive and euphonic in the Russian language than the word "horjok" (i.e. ferret) does, therefore some ferret vendors say: "my animals are not ferrets, but khonoriks, a cross between a ferret and a mink" even now. In addition some journalists show their ignorance and write about ferrets as about khonoriks.

http://www.ferret.ru/eng/khonorik.html

the result below

 

 

 

You would want to watch that mink and make sure the cage is secure! because ditch is mad after them!

 

lol,if it was my mink mate i would happily give it to him in one of his traps,keep hunting

 

a page with hybrids on,in there it sais ferret cross mink???

http://www.epou.org/hybrids.htm

[OldTrapCollector 377]

I stand corrected then

 

That is all news to me, I really did not think it would be possible, especially to have fertile hybrids. What would keep the bloodline pure if the interbreeding was commonplace?

 

Food for thought . . .

 

OTC

[wife 1]

i still personally think it is not possible,but from what i have read up on it i have come across scientists who have done lab research and some that say it is not posible and some that say it is possible ,who knows????????

keep hunting

[wife 1]

a list of other hybrids

kohosik = Siberian weasel x European polecat

kofunoter = Siberian weasel x albino European polecat x European mink

funoter = albino European polecat x European mink

ko-hofunoter = Siberian weasel x European polecat x albino European

polecat

x European mink

hofuter = Steppe polecat x albino European polecat

kofuter = Siberian weasel x albino European polecat

[Ruger8 0]

cracking pics great to see

[whin 463]

got pics and saw apure wild polecat the las lives in the aberdare area it was wild even when he found it with the mother they caught it crossing aroad , realy black ,now i dont know if hees bred it as ive not been down there this years all the best

[danielt 1]

got pics and saw apure wild polecat the las lives in the aberdare area it was wild even when he found it with the mother they caught it crossing aroad , realy black ,now i dont know if hees bred it as ive not been down there this years all the best

 

A bloke i know has a polecat bred from someone up in the Aberdare area, i think, the jill he has is well tame, i handled her the other day, he was going to get a hob, but it was to viscous to hand so he didnt bother.