January Hares...

[TOMO 27,666]

i think your just genralsing to much andy,, if you get a batch and half are pregnant,, then you automaticily think there all like that, but you might get a load the week after when none are pregnant.

 

any how whatever the extent of pregnancy in hares is,,, the fact remains they are harder to kill from dec onwards through till feb.

 

im guessing here,,, but i bet the majority of your big scores on hares andy were befor xmas???

[FUJI 17,426]

i think your just genralsing to much andy,, if you get a batch and half are pregnant,, then you automaticily think there all like that, but you might get a load the week after when none are pregnant.

 

any how whatever the extent of pregnancy in hares is,,, the fact remains they are harder to kill from dec onwards through till feb.

 

im guessing here,,, but i bet the majority of your big scores on hares andy were befor xmas???

 

 

Yep your probably correct on all counts Tomo but i'd also say the same about good hauls of bunnies be it with the dogs or even ferreting or come to that shooting being taken before xmas? The weak,slow,vulnerable call them what your will will more than likely have long since bitten the dust lol..imo i think you could just about say all matter of quarry is harder to catch at the turn of the year? either that or my dogs are just crap haha ATB Andy.

[kayal 58]

alright lads a think it if you just course when your supposed to sept-feb maybe march a dont think youve got anything to worry about if the dog kills a preggy doe end of jan its not its fault you can never beat nature. atb lads good post

[snoopdog 1,256]

best way is to run 15 hares at the start of september and the on the same land run 15 hares at the start of jan ..i think you will find out when hares are at there best.....and before someone says somthing i mean 15 over a couple of weeks .

[stubblebasher 150]

They seem to be all to pot breeding wise here.

 

Seen them mating in November 2yrs ago.

Got 3/4 grown here this June.

And last year found newly born in September.

 

Even though we have had foul winters of late their numbers seem to have increase dramatically...wonder if the decline in the BOP here has had anything to do with it?

 

 

Its hard to generalise id say weve had warm winters and had our first proper winter for a bit last year hares went poor after it but it was snow covering that done them happen if winters were colder theyd adapt accordingly cant remember poor hares when we did have bad winters it was a case of easy pickings in the snow.

One thing i have noticed about winter hares three good weeks of frost on their backs does seem to make them step up a gear imho id say dec and jan they are at their fittest as they are ready for bucking come feb in a warm winter they will be going off

 

 

will agree with that the ground his the main thing,, like i said come march time when the grass his longer the ground his a little harder or the grass folds down to benifit the dog s feet so its not sinking in up to its wrists,, has the hare become un,fitter, or easer in the space of 28 days,,like some people have said some hares have not started breedin yet//////

 

because its mating,, like i said erlier

 

andy im not saying there arnt any pregnant hares in jan,,, but i bet if you cought 10 you would only find maybe 1 ..... in fact heres a good survay for next year,, lets see what the persentage is

 

 

Good posts ladies and gents and i'd like to participate in that survey but like Robert and Tomo it's not an option unfortunately lol but i could assure you Tomo that in past years there would be more than one in ten infact i'd go as far as saying 4 or 5 atleast and thats with some of the ten being bucks,i started to quit on them the last day of December due to this..keep the posts coming,it's good craic reading peoples views.ATB Andy.

Hares go better once they v had a few frosts on their backs .Bucks are the firt to go over at the end of the season because they are shagged out,does that have just taken the real machines

[FUJI 17,426]

Is that the right craic stubblebasher? I never knew that matey .ATB Andy.

[stubblebasher 150]

Is that the right craic stubblebasher? I never knew that matey .ATB Andy.

Yes mate , test the theory for yourself

[coney clucky 93]

best way is to run 15 hares at the start of september and the on the same land run 15 hares at the start of jan ..i think you will find out when hares are at there best.....and before someone says somthing i mean 15 over a couple of weeks .

in the late 90s i was lamping one night in december and caught a tiny leveret in stuble fields just outside sunderland that must have been well early bred it was that small dogs and me didnt see it till right up on it and i grabbed it and put in cover but ive not noticed a lot of diffrence in speed or stamina in hares at any time of the season myself but thats probably as my dogs got lot bull in them and make a meal of catching them at any time ha ha my view is if the hares had a lot of dogging then they off like shit of a stick if not been doged then you can get lot closer and they dont seem to no how to shake dog off making them apeer to be slower

[TOMO 27,666]

robert you can take her any time fella,

i think its down to the conditions of the runin nothing to do with the hare being fitter,

wiser yes after a few dogs have run em up to january but fitter no,

what about the dog not being as fit in summer does that not even the odds up if you want to look at it like that????

but back in the 70s around lancashire i never seen a leveret in january,or even a young rabbit or a daffodil,lol

but now every january i see young rabbits leverets and loads of daffodils,

but i really think we dont see a lot of leverets around january because they dont survive well in them months,but there definatly there and being produced

 

thats exactly the point, bazil,,, dogs arnt fit in summer, yet catch hares more easily,

hopfully by winter the dogs are at top fitnes , but find it hard to catch them,,,

[robert michem 314]

BAS YOU AND SOME 1 ELSE SAID THAT,,MAY BE THE CONDISION OF THE GROUND IN THE 3 WINTER MONTHS ARE PISS WET AND THE FEILDS OR SO HEAVEY,,SEPT,, THE HARES ARE FRESH TO DAY LIGHT BIN IN CORN RAPE ECT, AND STILL YOUNG, AND THE GROUND HIS RIGHT FOR THE DOGS,,MAY BE THIS HIS WHY THEY GET KILLED EASY,,, BUT IFF I GOT A LAST YEARS BUCK HARE AND PUT IT ON A JAN,,,,Y WINTER WHEET HEAVEY GOING FEILD IT WUD BE THE SAME, IFF NOT ITS BIN A VERY SILLY HARE 100S OF YEARS OF NATURE AND BIN EATING MORE THAN THAT BUILT IN DIET WHAT NATURE GAVE THEM, HAS A NORM ALL WILD ANIMALS ARE ALL YEAR ROUND, FIT NATURE GAVE THEM THAT,, BUT A LITTLE WISER THATS DOWN TO A FEW NEAR MISSERS,,,

[toby1066 413]

good posts tomo people who try to say hares arent at there best in dec or jan after a bit of hard frosty weather are usually the ones who dont have dogs capable of doing it then so they need excuses to justify putting a dish of food down every day to these substandard dogs

[FUJI 17,426]

good posts tomo people who try to say hares arent at there best in dec or jan after a bit of hard frosty weather are usually the ones who dont have dogs capable of doing it then so they need excuses to justify putting a dish of food down every day to these substandard dogs

 

 

I think thats a bit harsh Toby lol..we all ain't got world beaters sitting in the dog run ..if the hares were so easy before/after Dec/Jan then i suppose that those who ain't got the substandard dogs as you like to call them like unlike the majority of us will only be running their dogs in Dec/Jan then will they? Yeah right oh? haha...ATB Andy.

[baw 4,360]

Hares go better once they have had a few frosts on there back, what a crock of shit Some folk just say stuff to make themselves look knowledgeable

[baw 4,360]

i can only comment on rabbits,

but i find the hardest fastest rabbits down here in august by january there all bellied up again and most have had there 1st litter,

i will say that ive never found a january rabbit harder then a july rabbit or a january hare harder then a july hare pre the ban.

 

 

mark how can you tell with 3 dogs out of the moto whats harder our seasons have moved its warmer now adays

 

Your full of wind willow, is that where you got your name from, wind in the willows?

[TOMO 27,666]

Some folk just say stuff to make themselves look knowledgeable

 

no chance of you ever saying anything like that

 

thought you left??