baldockbanks courser 598 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 someone took a poxy dog thats more than likley a jacker in the first place hence it being in a pound! Its no ones pride and joy or even a pet! its feed and cleaned out by staff who probablie hardlie look at it. Move on! cant you try and help 1 of the meanie heart broken lurcher owners who have had there lurcher taken! Wonder what you'd say if, for instance, one of your top coursing dogs was lost - then found, and you were notified, and it was in a shelter. And before you'd managed to get there someone broke in and stole it. You'd be heartbroken. Or maybe you'd not give damn. I'd say that's miles worse. what are the chances of that! as soon as thed "inform me" id drive there and pick it up. 99% of lurchers in shelters have chucked a 1 line breaker or couldnt bend a hare in a desert! Lets get real this post is a total waste of time, Has anyone seen the original poster and said thats my dog I lost? ? probablie not no. Plenty more skiders waiting for homes in the very same pound Im sure! and no I dont use homes and push my rubbish around by dumping off, youll always have the odd bad one and thats the end of the line. Quote Link to post
6pack 60 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 As has been said anywhere is better than a dogs and cats home even if it was put down straight after it was stolen. hopefully they spend a lot of money trying to get the dog back but dont. your i nice a fella arnt ya I hate rescue centres,theres no excuse to allow any animal to have to go to one,the animals they claim to love would be in a far better way if they didn't exist imo. I hate rescue centres too. I hate that they are necessary. theyre self perpetuating,family buy a dog on a whim dont train,socialise it,get bored etc so dump it in a rescue when it gets too much (which is worse on the dog than destroying it imo), then buy a new dog,safe in the knowledge fluffy will live his days out in the rescue centre. if they had to pts that dog themselves (or even dump it but it safe in the knowledge it would be destroyed) that may just make them think twice about puppy number 2+3+4 etc etc etc I agree completely. The disposable attitude angers me greatly. But that isn't the only reason dogs end up in rescue. Quote Link to post
blan89 159 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 As has been said anywhere is better than a dogs and cats home even if it was put down straight after it was stolen. hopefully they spend a lot of money trying to get the dog back but dont. your i nice a fella arnt ya I hate rescue centres,theres no excuse to allow any animal to have to go to one,the animals they claim to love would be in a far better way if they didn't exist imo. I hate rescue centres too. I hate that they are necessary. theyre self perpetuating,family buy a dog on a whim dont train,socialise it,get bored etc so dump it in a rescue when it gets too much (which is worse on the dog than destroying it imo), then buy a new dog,safe in the knowledge fluffy will live his days out in the rescue centre. if they had to pts that dog themselves (or even dump it but it safe in the knowledge it would be destroyed) that may just make them think twice about puppy number 2+3+4 etc etc etc I agree completely. The disposable attitude angers me greatly. But that isn't the only reason dogs end up in rescue. I understand that but still stand by the fact there is no excuse for a dog to ever end up there. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Some folk are a bit basic. Aye, shelters are terrible places. I wouldn't wish any dog there. But there are a lot of cun.ts in the world, and a lot of dogs etc do get abused. Do you not think it's a good thing that some of these dogs get taken in by shelters and end up rehomed, or even just living in a shelter not getting abused? It's like the RSPCA, i know, f*****g evil etc etc etc, and i hate them for a whole host of reasons as well, but when they are actually doing the job they were intended for, i.e taking an abused dog off some junkie, them i cannot knock them. 1 Quote Link to post
6pack 60 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 As has been said anywhere is better than a dogs and cats home even if it was put down straight after it was stolen. hopefully they spend a lot of money trying to get the dog back but dont. your i nice a fella arnt ya I hate rescue centres,theres no excuse to allow any animal to have to go to one,the animals they claim to love would be in a far better way if they didn't exist imo. I hate rescue centres too. I hate that they are necessary. theyre self perpetuating,family buy a dog on a whim dont train,socialise it,get bored etc so dump it in a rescue when it gets too much (which is worse on the dog than destroying it imo), then buy a new dog,safe in the knowledge fluffy will live his days out in the rescue centre. if they had to pts that dog themselves (or even dump it but it safe in the knowledge it would be destroyed) that may just make them think twice about puppy number 2+3+4 etc etc etc I agree completely. The disposable attitude angers me greatly. But that isn't the only reason dogs end up in rescue. I understand that but still stand by the fact there is no excuse for a dog to ever end up there. Think of a scenario and it will have cropped up some where in rescue. I can recall one dog that was in rescue in Yorkshire that had been lost in Hertfordshire. Depending where a dog is picked up depends which pound it goes to. After 7 days that pound can move a dog where it wishes. It is very easy for a dog to be lost in the 'system' It was 5 months later after staying in rescue that the dog was reunited with a very happy owner. And good dogs DO come out of rescues too. A dog can change hands easier than a car. While dogs are being bred there will be a need for rescues. Simple. Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Some people dont half spout some shite on here. Every lurcher in rescue is there because it is a jacker/shite/abandoned etc etc. Better off put to sleep...blahh blahh blahh. My 'rubbish' came from a shelter, no world beater, but a good honest dog and i have had years of fun with this lad... This lad had never even seen a rabbit before he came to live with me, never been worked. He is now retired, living with my sister, he gets to sleep on the bed every night, catches rabbit almost daily bushing on normal walks, and spends his days lazing around the house and garden. 2 Quote Link to post
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Some people dont half spout some shite on here. Every lurcher in rescue is there because it is a jacker/shite/abandoned etc etc. Better off put to sleep...blahh blahh blahh. My 'rubbish' came from a shelter, no world beater, but a good honest dog and i have had years of fun with this lad... This lad had never even seen a rabbit before he came to live with me, never been worked. He is now retired, living with my sister, he gets to sleep on the bed every night, catches rabbit almost daily bushing on normal walks, and spends his days lazing around the house and garden. And that's a clear distinction between someone who can see potential, who values, respects and trusts their animals ... and someone who would call a dog a waste of time and a piece of shit because it can't bend a hare Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Some people dont half spout some shite on here. Every lurcher in rescue is there because it is a jacker/shite/abandoned etc etc. Better off put to sleep...blahh blahh blahh. My 'rubbish' came from a shelter, no world beater, but a good honest dog and i have had years of fun with this lad... This lad had never even seen a rabbit before he came to live with me, never been worked. He is now retired, living with my sister, he gets to sleep on the bed every night, catches rabbit almost daily bushing on normal walks, and spends his days lazing around the house and garden. Very nice dogs and what brilliant pics!!!! Did they tell you why your dog was in the shelter? abandoned/abused etc? Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Some people dont half spout some shite on here. Every lurcher in rescue is there because it is a jacker/shite/abandoned etc etc. Better off put to sleep...blahh blahh blahh. My 'rubbish' came from a shelter, no world beater, but a good honest dog and i have had years of fun with this lad... This lad had never even seen a rabbit before he came to live with me, never been worked. He is now retired, living with my sister, he gets to sleep on the bed every night, catches rabbit almost daily bushing on normal walks, and spends his days lazing around the house and garden. Very nice dogs and what brilliant pics!!!! Did they tell you why your dog was in the shelter? abandoned/abused etc? Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Just found as a stray Rob, he was roughly 12mth old when i got him, had been in the shelter for about 2mths. Quote Link to post
littlefish 574 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 As has been said anywhere is better than a dogs and cats home even if it was put down straight after it was stolen. hopefully they spend a lot of money trying to get the dog back but dont. your i nice a fella arnt ya I hate rescue centres,theres no excuse to allow any animal to have to go to one,the animals they claim to love would be in a far better way if they didn't exist imo. So very, very true..................if only dreamers/peddlars would stop breeding them en masse..........searching for 'the next big thing' instead of working properly on what they have before calling an inexperienced, poorly trained pup a jacker.......pathetic really. 1 Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 As has been said anywhere is better than a dogs and cats home even if it was put down straight after it was stolen. hopefully they spend a lot of money trying to get the dog back but dont. your i nice a fella arnt ya I hate rescue centres,theres no excuse to allow any animal to have to go to one,the animals they claim to love would be in a far better way if they didn't exist imo. So very, very true..................if only dreamers/peddlars would stop breeding them en masse..........searching for 'the next big thing' instead of working properly on what they have before calling an inexperienced, poorly trained pup a jacker.......pathetic really. how exactlie do you train a dog to course a hare? you can get them fit but its ultimatlie inside a dog that makes it a coursing dog. most dogs ( adults not untested 10 month old pups) round my way in pounds are failed hare dogs. you may be able to do a little rabbiting with these rejects but not coursing which most were breed for. I just cant see why so much efort is being put into finding this dog theres a very good chance it will end up back in a shelter and back to square 1 anyway in the end. Quote Link to post
Fabapocalypse 35 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 how exactlie do you train a dog to course a hare? you can get them fit but its ultimatlie inside a dog that makes it a coursing dog. most dogs ( adults not untested 10 month old pups) round my way in pounds are failed hare dogs. you may be able to do a little rabbiting with these rejects but not coursing which most were breed for. Or you could course hare, if it were legal. Which it isn't. And does it make it alright to dump a dog because it "fails" you? I just cant see why so much efort is being put into finding this dog theres a very good chance it will end up back in a shelter and back to square 1 anyway in the end. Because theft is wrong? I wonder how many of the "pounds round here" you spend any time in. I'm not far from you and can say from experience that of lurchers in the "pounds round here" most are young dogs under a year and many are injured or have been obviously badly cared for, or worse. You also see older dogs which it is fairly obvious are descending that spiral of being sold and passed on until they hit the pounds and shelters. Some can be rehabilitated and go on to have good lives; why shouldn't they? It's no skin off your nose, since to you they are "rubbish" anyway. It comes back to there being too many bred, too many dumped or passed on to be dumped later. Too many stolen from kennels and runs, because there is a market out there for them, and people will buy without asking questions. Basically not enough dogs being done right by. But how low do you have to be, really, to steal a dog from an animal shelter? I don't see why that's seen as somehow a different degree of crime because it wasn't from a private house. There are some very flexible ethics, on this site. Quote Link to post
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 How do you know they're rejects? I bet a fair few of them were dumped when folks got rumbled and they just left them. There could be some real gems in there - and some that maybe can't catch well but have great temperaments and sound health. I suppose it takes a person who can see potential, not just glory. Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) how exactlie do you train a dog to course a hare? you can get them fit but its ultimatlie inside a dog that makes it a coursing dog. most dogs ( adults not untested 10 month old pups) round my way in pounds are failed hare dogs. you may be able to do a little rabbiting with these rejects but not coursing which most were breed for. Or you could course hare, if it were legal. Which it isn't. And does it make it alright to dump a dog because it "fails" you? I just cant see why so much efort is being put into finding this dog theres a very good chance it will end up back in a shelter and back to square 1 anyway in the end. Because theft is wrong? I wonder how many of the "pounds round here" you spend any time in. I'm not far from you and can say from experience that of lurchers in the "pounds round here" most are young dogs under a year and many are injured or have been obviously badly cared for, or worse. You also see older dogs which it is fairly obvious are descending that spiral of being sold and passed on until they hit the pounds and shelters. Some can be rehabilitated and go on to have good lives; why shouldn't they? It's no skin off your nose, since to you they are "rubbish" anyway. It comes back to there being too many bred, too many dumped or passed on to be dumped later. Too many stolen from kennels and runs, because there is a market out there for them, and people will buy without asking questions. Basically not enough dogs being done right by. But how low do you have to be, really, to steal a dog from an animal shelter? I don't see why that's seen as somehow a different degree of crime because it wasn't from a private house. There are some very flexible ethics, on this site. Its totaly diffrent than a dog being taken from a private house, they should think there selves lucky someone wanted the dog to take it. yes I have got "flexiable ethics" Its like if some one stole a load of tools from B & Q or stuff from tesco Id say good luck to them but if it was from the little shop at the end of the road or the freindly hardware shop in the town center then thats diffrent yes that effects individuals. Large chains dont notice such loses when ther directors are siting on a tropical beach drinking cocktails. And the pound should be greatful of one less mouth to feed. unlike the sickening felling of finding your own dog has gone. the problem is people will always disagree with me on many things due to the fact I solie keep and breed my dogs for work and thats it, I get attached once a dog has served me well for a good few season and not before. I dont show , or walk round dog pounds to find new stock and dont cuddle and kiss a dog thats " my pet ". and I dont think many people use the lurcher for what it was intended for nower days. Edited July 6, 2011 by baldockbanks courser Quote Link to post
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