broken leg!!

[redpat1 225]

That is one lucky dog to have you as his owner. Good on you for sticking with him, I hope he pays you back tenfold.

ATB Pat

[awen 29]

That is one lucky dog to have you as his owner. Good on you for sticking with him, I hope he pays you back tenfold.

ATB Pat

 

 

no im lucky owner to have a dog like him!!

[carp man 1 219]

That is one lucky dog to have you as his owner. Good on you for sticking with him, I hope he pays you back tenfold.

ATB Pat

 

 

no im lucky owner to have a dog like him!!

take my hat off to u mate they is not meny like u all the best 4 the both off u mate

[baldockbanks courser 598]

A true dog man in the making. Instead of tossing the dog in the river with a bag of bricks or a bullet to the head. I hope your dog gives to you all the work you put into him. When he is ready for a proper run try for a sandy beach which might be hard to find. Swimming is very good but the dog does't extend as far as normal. If you can find a person with horses they run them in a circle filled with sand to get them fit. Just to have the dog playing in the sand not too hard should help with extension without the jarring of hard ground. Best of luck

why does it make him at good dog man?

 

you could say hes kind to animals if you want but sometimes as a "Working dog man" you have to think with your head not with your hert. I.M.O a dog with an injurie like that has no chance of a 100% recovery, and to me a dog has to be 100% to warent a place in a kennel.

 

For £1400 and the time youll spend on a dog that wont come good you could buy a well breed pup feed it for a year and spend your time training it to a good standard and at least you know it has as good a chance as any healthy dog of making a worker.

 

Personally I would have shot ( I dont think any sane man would make a dog suffer by drownding it! ) the lurcher at the quickest opertunity to save it the pain of operations and more pain when it " trys " to run again.

 

If you class it as your pet its a diffrent matter

 

But I myself dont, but even if its a pet, a lurcher lives to run and to have a dog with a very weak leg is cruel in itself by stoping a dog doing what it loves.

 

At the End of the Day I know very few people on here work lurchers any were near there full potental and keep them firstlie as house pets and Im sure ill get a lot of abuse but I dont keep pasengers in my kennels everything erns its keep.

 

Im not trying to be macho as people will say, but its how " working " dogs have been kept and breed for 100s of years, perhaps Im a dinosaur but there you go.

[richy.w 2]

just give it a good wank and it should be right as rain

[awen 29]

A true dog man in the making. Instead of tossing the dog in the river with a bag of bricks or a bullet to the head. I hope your dog gives to you all the work you put into him. When he is ready for a proper run try for a sandy beach which might be hard to find. Swimming is very good but the dog does't extend as far as normal. If you can find a person with horses they run them in a circle filled with sand to get them fit. Just to have the dog playing in the sand not too hard should help with extension without the jarring of hard ground. Best of luck

why does it make him at good dog man?

 

you could say hes kind to animals if you want but sometimes as a "Working dog man" you have to think with your head not with your hert. I.M.O a dog with an injurie like that has no chance of a 100% recovery, and to me a dog has to be 100% to warent a place in a kennel.

 

For £1400 and the time youll spend on a dog that wont come good you could buy a well breed pup feed it for a year and spend your time training it to a good standard and at least you know it has as good a chance as any healthy dog of making a worker.

 

Personally I would have shot ( I dont think any sane man would make a dog suffer by drownding it! ) the lurcher at the quickest opertunity to save it the pain of operations and more pain when it " trys " to run again.

 

If you class it as your pet its a diffrent matter

 

But I myself dont, but even if its a pet, a lurcher lives to run and to have a dog with a very weak leg is cruel in itself by stoping a dog doing what it loves.

 

At the End of the Day I know very few people on here work lurchers any were near there full potental and keep them firstlie as house pets and Im sure ill get a lot of abuse but I dont keep pasengers in my kennels everything erns its keep.

 

Im not trying to be macho as people will say, but its how " working " dogs have been kept and breed for 100s of years, perhaps Im a dinosaur but there you go.

 

 

I spoke to some well informed people befor i made the decision and the only thing that would have stopped would have been my own laziness not to put the time in, i bought him with the intension to breed him with another one of my dogs if he turned good so if thats his eventual worth its good enough for me, theres nothin to say he wont make a full recovery, put it this way how many people do you know that have broken there leg never to run on it again none i bet. i wonder how many dogs with broken legs actually would make a full recovery with the time put in??? a new pup is a gamble if it has breeding or not you just dont know what your gettin. spending £1400 isnt a gamble to me but a feckin good investment

Edited July 9, 2011 by awen

[baldockbanks courser 598]

A true dog man in the making. Instead of tossing the dog in the river with a bag of bricks or a bullet to the head. I hope your dog gives to you all the work you put into him. When he is ready for a proper run try for a sandy beach which might be hard to find. Swimming is very good but the dog does't extend as far as normal. If you can find a person with horses they run them in a circle filled with sand to get them fit. Just to have the dog playing in the sand not too hard should help with extension without the jarring of hard ground. Best of luck

why does it make him at good dog man?

 

you could say hes kind to animals if you want but sometimes as a "Working dog man" you have to think with your head not with your hert. I.M.O a dog with an injurie like that has no chance of a 100% recovery, and to me a dog has to be 100% to warent a place in a kennel.

 

For £1400 and the time youll spend on a dog that wont come good you could buy a well breed pup feed it for a year and spend your time training it to a good standard and at least you know it has as good a chance as any healthy dog of making a worker.

 

Personally I would have shot ( I dont think any sane man would make a dog suffer by drownding it! ) the lurcher at the quickest opertunity to save it the pain of operations and more pain when it " trys " to run again.

 

If you class it as your pet its a diffrent matter

 

But I myself dont, but even if its a pet, a lurcher lives to run and to have a dog with a very weak leg is cruel in itself by stoping a dog doing what it loves.

 

At the End of the Day I know very few people on here work lurchers any were near there full potental and keep them firstlie as house pets and Im sure ill get a lot of abuse but I dont keep pasengers in my kennels everything erns its keep.

 

Im not trying to be macho as people will say, but its how " working " dogs have been kept and breed for 100s of years, perhaps Im a dinosaur but there you go.

 

 

I spoke to some well informed people befor i made the decision and the only thing that would have stopped would have been my own laziness not to put the time in, i bought him with the intension to breed him with another one of my dogs if he turned good so if thats his eventual worth its good enough for me, theres nothin to say he wont make a full recovery, put it this way how many people do you know that have broken there leg never to run on it again none i bet. i wonder how many dogs with broken legs actually would make a full recovery with the time put in??? a new pup is a gamble if it has breeding or not you just dont know what your gettin. spending £1400 isnt a gamble to me but a feckin good investment

Im not knocing you for trying, its just I think its quite diffrent to a man ( good job you didnt use a race horse as an example instead! ) breaking hes leg like you say.

if your using say a footballer for example then sometimes it takes 18 months or 2 years to play agian and some never do play.

 

18 months to 2 years is a long time for a dog that has a carrer of 5 years. Having seen how much stress a lurchers leg is put under when twisting and turning on a rabbit I personally couldnt see a pinned leg standing up to it.

 

I once see a young coursing bitch break her leg on a ditch and when I saw that it was swinging in the wind. It was dumped into the vet who carried out the op and re homed the lurcher as a pet, I see her occasionally on a lead with its new pet owner. He told me it was pinned but she still struggles when let off to run at that was years ago and she dont even work.

 

As I say its only my own experience and its your time and money. as for the stud side im sure theres many many top dogs that can be used for a reasonable fee.

[skycat 6,173]

The thing is these days, when dogs are often more part of the family than just working tools, people get emotionally attached to them: I know I do. BUT like 'BBC' says, very few dogs which have suffered from serious breaks (I'm not talking about greenstick fractures) are ever 110% sound again afterwards. ANY injury to a leg leaves scarring, whether it be to tendon, ligament, bone or muscle. And any scarring reduces performance: in the case of the tendon sheath for example, through which the tendon should slide easily as the dog flexes and extends the leg: any roughness on the inside of that sheath due to scarring will ultimately cause pain and inflammation, which makes the dog reluctant to run to its potential.

 

I guess it all depends on how seriously you take things: are you happy for a dog to have a few runs, then take it home early to rest up because it needs a few days while things settle down again? Or do you want a dog which can run to the max with hopefully no after effects? Even the best, fittest and best maintained dogs take knocks, little sprains and strains which can see them off work for a week or two.

 

There's very few dogs which will give their all if they are in pain, though some do, and literally run till they drop.

 

I once invested heavily in a bitch pup who had meningitis at 6 months old. Cost me a grand in treatment at the time. She recovered, sort of, but was never as supple as she should have been, (stiffness in her spine) though always gave of her best. I was told never to breed from her in case it brought about a reocccurence (sp?)of the meningitis. I ignored them and bred two good litters from her. She was never 100% in the field, but I have two sets of grand daughters here now which I'm very pleased with indeed. She lived to nearly 12 years old. But I've also had no hesitation in having a dog put down after stifle dislocation, hip dislocation, badly fractured leg etc etc. All of which could have been operated on, probably not very successfully.

 

I guess I fall somewhere in between the owner who needs sound dogs to do a job, and the owner who emotionally bonds with their dogs as part of the family. Each person is different

 

Everything in life is a risk: it just depends on where you puts down your money, and what exactly you are prepared to risk. But I always look a the dog's quality of life: if it can't do what it was born to do, and has to spend a life on a lead sitting on the sidelines, so to speak, then I wouldn't do that to a running dog. God knows I see enough rescue dogs round my way, confined to life on a lead, for whatever reason: I don't think it is right: breaks their spirits, especially if they are still living the life with their owner, knowing that other dogs are going out and doing the business. Just my opinion.

[riohog 5,701]

The thing is these days, when dogs are often more part of the family than just working tools, people get emotionally attached to them: I know I do. BUT like 'BBC' says, very few dogs which have suffered from serious breaks (I'm not talking about greenstick fractures) are ever 110% sound again afterwards. ANY injury to a leg leaves scarring, whether it be to tendon, ligament, bone or muscle. And any scarring reduces performance: in the case of the tendon sheath for example, through which the tendon should slide easily as the dog flexes and extends the leg: any roughness on the inside of that sheath due to scarring will ultimately cause pain and inflammation, which makes the dog reluctant to run to its potential.

 

I guess it all depends on how seriously you take things: are you happy for a dog to have a few runs, then take it home early to rest up because it needs a few days while things settle down again? Or do you want a dog which can run to the max with hopefully no after effects? Even the best, fittest and best maintained dogs take knocks, little sprains and strains which can see them off work for a week or two.

 

There's very few dogs which will give their all if they are in pain, though some do, and literally run till they drop.

 

I once invested heavily in a bitch pup who had meningitis at 6 months old. Cost me a grand in treatment at the time. She recovered, sort of, but was never as supple as she should have been, (stiffness in her spine) though always gave of her best. I was told never to breed from her in case it brought about a reocccurence (sp?)of the meningitis. I ignored them and bred two good litters from her. She was never 100% in the field, but I have two sets of grand daughters here now which I'm very pleased with indeed. She lived to nearly 12 years old. But I've also had no hesitation in having a dog put down after stifle dislocation, hip dislocation, badly fractured leg etc etc. All of which could have been operated on, probably not very successfully.

 

I guess I fall somewhere in between the owner who needs sound dogs to do a job, and the owner who emotionally bonds with their dogs as part of the family. Each person is different

 

Everything in life is a risk: it just depends on where you puts down your money, and what exactly you are prepared to risk. But I always look a the dog's quality of life: if it can't do what it was born to do, and has to spend a life on a lead sitting on the sidelines, so to speak, then I wouldn't do that to a running dog. God knows I see enough rescue dogs round my way, confined to life on a lead, for whatever reason: I don't think it is right: breaks their spirits, especially if they are still living the life with their owner, knowing that other dogs are going out and doing the business. Just my opinion.

very well put skycat ,yes it isnt llways easy to think with the head instead of the heart .what is best for the dog is what matters

[baldockbanks courser 598]

The thing is these days, when dogs are often more part of the family than just working tools, people get emotionally attached to them: I know I do. BUT like 'BBC' says, very few dogs which have suffered from serious breaks (I'm not talking about greenstick fractures) are ever 110% sound again afterwards. ANY injury to a leg leaves scarring, whether it be to tendon, ligament, bone or muscle. And any scarring reduces performance: in the case of the tendon sheath for example, through which the tendon should slide easily as the dog flexes and extends the leg: any roughness on the inside of that sheath due to scarring will ultimately cause pain and inflammation, which makes the dog reluctant to run to its potential.

 

I guess it all depends on how seriously you take things: are you happy for a dog to have a few runs, then take it home early to rest up because it needs a few days while things settle down again? Or do you want a dog which can run to the max with hopefully no after effects? Even the best, fittest and best maintained dogs take knocks, little sprains and strains which can see them off work for a week or two.

 

There's very few dogs which will give their all if they are in pain, though some do, and literally run till they drop.

 

I once invested heavily in a bitch pup who had meningitis at 6 months old. Cost me a grand in treatment at the time. She recovered, sort of, but was never as supple as she should have been, (stiffness in her spine) though always gave of her best. I was told never to breed from her in case it brought about a reocccurence (sp?)of the meningitis. I ignored them and bred two good litters from her. She was never 100% in the field, but I have two sets of grand daughters here now which I'm very pleased with indeed. She lived to nearly 12 years old. But I've also had no hesitation in having a dog put down after stifle dislocation, hip dislocation, badly fractured leg etc etc. All of which could have been operated on, probably not very successfully.

 

I guess I fall somewhere in between the owner who needs sound dogs to do a job, and the owner who emotionally bonds with their dogs as part of the family. Each person is different

 

Everything in life is a risk: it just depends on where you puts down your money, and what exactly you are prepared to risk. But I always look a the dog's quality of life: if it can't do what it was born to do, and has to spend a life on a lead sitting on the sidelines, so to speak, then I wouldn't do that to a running dog. God knows I see enough rescue dogs round my way, confined to life on a lead, for whatever reason: I don't think it is right: breaks their spirits, especially if they are still living the life with their owner, knowing that other dogs are going out and doing the business. Just my opinion.

good honest post sky cat.

[fcuktheban 140]

A true dog man in the making. Instead of tossing the dog in the river with a bag of bricks or a bullet to the head. I hope your dog gives to you all the work you put into him. When he is ready for a proper run try for a sandy beach which might be hard to find. Swimming is very good but the dog does't extend as far as normal. If you can find a person with horses they run them in a circle filled with sand to get them fit. Just to have the dog playing in the sand not too hard should help with extension without the jarring of hard ground. Best of luck

why does it make him at good dog man?

 

you could say hes kind to animals if you want but sometimes as a "Working dog man" you have to think with your head not with your hert. I.M.O a dog with an injurie like that has no chance of a 100% recovery, and to me a dog has to be 100% to warent a place in a kennel.

 

For £1400 and the time youll spend on a dog that wont come good you could buy a well breed pup feed it for a year and spend your time training it to a good standard and at least you know it has as good a chance as any healthy dog of making a worker.

 

Personally I would have shot ( I dont think any sane man would make a dog suffer by drownding it! ) the lurcher at the quickest opertunity to save it the pain of operations and more pain when it " trys " to run again.

 

If you class it as your pet its a diffrent matter

 

But I myself dont, but even if its a pet, a lurcher lives to run and to have a dog with a very weak leg is cruel in itself by stoping a dog doing what it loves.

 

At the End of the Day I know very few people on here work lurchers any were near there full potental and keep them firstlie as house pets and Im sure ill get a lot of abuse but I dont keep pasengers in my kennels everything erns its keep.

 

Im not trying to be macho as people will say, but its how " working " dogs have been kept and breed for 100s of years, perhaps Im a dinosaur but there you go.

It looks like he has thought about the dog and what could become of it positive and negative. Who's to say after shooting the injured dog that you've put so much work into with good breeding and was a good worker that the next pup you put all your effort on doesn't end up injured or dead? I'd rather take the gamble with the proven dog that could become %100 with hard work than to start over again and risk the same or worse and more years spent just to get the pup ready for work.

[DogMagic 461]

A true dog man in the making. Instead of tossing the dog in the river with a bag of bricks or a bullet to the head. I hope your dog gives to you all the work you put into him. When he is ready for a proper run try for a sandy beach which might be hard to find. Swimming is very good but the dog does't extend as far as normal. If you can find a person with horses they run them in a circle filled with sand to get them fit. Just to have the dog playing in the sand not too hard should help with extension without the jarring of hard ground. Best of luck

why does it make him at good dog man?

 

you could say hes kind to animals if you want but sometimes as a "Working dog man" you have to think with your head not with your hert. I.M.O a dog with an injurie like that has no chance of a 100% recovery, and to me a dog has to be 100% to warent a place in a kennel.

 

For £1400 and the time youll spend on a dog that wont come good you could buy a well breed pup feed it for a year and spend your time training it to a good standard and at least you know it has as good a chance as any healthy dog of making a worker.

 

Personally I would have shot ( I dont think any sane man would make a dog suffer by drownding it! ) the lurcher at the quickest opertunity to save it the pain of operations and more pain when it " trys " to run again.

 

If you class it as your pet its a diffrent matter

 

But I myself dont, but even if its a pet, a lurcher lives to run and to have a dog with a very weak leg is cruel in itself by stoping a dog doing what it loves.

 

At the End of the Day I know very few people on here work lurchers any were near there full potental and keep them firstlie as house pets and Im sure ill get a lot of abuse but I dont keep pasengers in my kennels everything erns its keep.

 

Im not trying to be macho as people will say, but its how " working " dogs have been kept and breed for 100s of years, perhaps Im a dinosaur but there you go.

Ballbag corser i dont think you are dinosaur,i think you are a thouroughbred mothers c**t! You have no place in the doggy game whatsoever. Everytime anyone has an injury or problem with their dog or ferret you always say the same f*****g drivel! If only you had been shot the first time you had an injury.

[baldockbanks courser 598]

A true dog man in the making. Instead of tossing the dog in the river with a bag of bricks or a bullet to the head. I hope your dog gives to you all the work you put into him. When he is ready for a proper run try for a sandy beach which might be hard to find. Swimming is very good but the dog does't extend as far as normal. If you can find a person with horses they run them in a circle filled with sand to get them fit. Just to have the dog playing in the sand not too hard should help with extension without the jarring of hard ground. Best of luck

why does it make him at good dog man?

 

you could say hes kind to animals if you want but sometimes as a "Working dog man" you have to think with your head not with your hert. I.M.O a dog with an injurie like that has no chance of a 100% recovery, and to me a dog has to be 100% to warent a place in a kennel.

 

For £1400 and the time youll spend on a dog that wont come good you could buy a well breed pup feed it for a year and spend your time training it to a good standard and at least you know it has as good a chance as any healthy dog of making a worker.

 

Personally I would have shot ( I dont think any sane man would make a dog suffer by drownding it! ) the lurcher at the quickest opertunity to save it the pain of operations and more pain when it " trys " to run again.

 

If you class it as your pet its a diffrent matter

 

But I myself dont, but even if its a pet, a lurcher lives to run and to have a dog with a very weak leg is cruel in itself by stoping a dog doing what it loves.

 

At the End of the Day I know very few people on here work lurchers any were near there full potental and keep them firstlie as house pets and Im sure ill get a lot of abuse but I dont keep pasengers in my kennels everything erns its keep.

 

Im not trying to be macho as people will say, but its how " working " dogs have been kept and breed for 100s of years, perhaps Im a dinosaur but there you go.

Ballbag corser i dont think you are dinosaur,i think you are a thouroughbred mothers c**t! You have no place in the doggy game whatsoever. Everytime anyone has an injury or problem with their dog or ferret you always say the same f*****g drivel! If only you had been shot the first time you had an injury.

so easy throwing personal remarks about on a computer when you know your liklie to never meet someone face to face.

At the end of the day people who know me know I only keep decent stuff that can do its job and thats all that maters to me.

 

If you want to run a home for waiths, strays and jackeres thats up to you. Im off to the real world now to get on with the job of Getting my workers fit for september.

 

A.t.b you lemon.

[DogMagic 461]

A true dog man in the making. Instead of tossing the dog in the river with a bag of bricks or a bullet to the head. I hope your dog gives to you all the work you put into him. When he is ready for a proper run try for a sandy beach which might be hard to find. Swimming is very good but the dog does't extend as far as normal. If you can find a person with horses they run them in a circle filled with sand to get them fit. Just to have the dog playing in the sand not too hard should help with extension without the jarring of hard ground. Best of luck

why does it make him at good dog man?

 

you could say hes kind to animals if you want but sometimes as a "Working dog man" you have to think with your head not with your hert. I.M.O a dog with an injurie like that has no chance of a 100% recovery, and to me a dog has to be 100% to warent a place in a kennel.

 

For £1400 and the time youll spend on a dog that wont come good you could buy a well breed pup feed it for a year and spend your time training it to a good standard and at least you know it has as good a chance as any healthy dog of making a worker.

 

Personally I would have shot ( I dont think any sane man would make a dog suffer by drownding it! ) the lurcher at the quickest opertunity to save it the pain of operations and more pain when it " trys " to run again.

 

If you class it as your pet its a diffrent matter

 

But I myself dont, but even if its a pet, a lurcher lives to run and to have a dog with a very weak leg is cruel in itself by stoping a dog doing what it loves.

 

At the End of the Day I know very few people on here work lurchers any were near there full potental and keep them firstlie as house pets and Im sure ill get a lot of abuse but I dont keep pasengers in my kennels everything erns its keep.

 

Im not trying to be macho as people will say, but its how " working " dogs have been kept and breed for 100s of years, perhaps Im a dinosaur but there you go.

Ballbag corser i dont think you are dinosaur,i think you are a thouroughbred mothers c**t! You have no place in the doggy game whatsoever. Everytime anyone has an injury or problem with their dog or ferret you always say the same f*****g drivel! If only you had been shot the first time you had an injury.

so easy throwing personal remarks about on a computer when you know your liklie to never meet someone face to face.

At the end of the day people who know me know I only keep decent stuff that can do its job and thats all that maters to me.

 

If you want to run a home for waiths, strays and jackeres thats up to you. Im off to the real world now to get on with the job of Getting my workers fit for september.

 

A.t.b you lemon.

Who said we would never meet?? You just need to be sure that once your legs are broke you dont end up with a nice big hole in your head, after all if its ok for your dogs its ok for you and as for running a home for waiths, strays and jackers perhaps you should learn to train them and persavere a but rather than shooting them? Prick

[mattydski 560]

heres a pic of my dog, he broke his humerus mid march there was some nerve damage too. He was running a wood and fell in to a ditch only about 2 foot deep 4 foot wide but he was a full pelt and just didnt see it, found him the other side just sat there with his leg hanging. He weighs 55kg and i had to carry the b*****d quater of a mile or so to get him out. Got him down the vets and 4 days later i got him back, the dog had 10 pins and plate in his leg and i was 1400 quid lighter. Its been 3 months or so now and is doin aqua therapy twice a week in a horse exercising pool cost £5 instead of the £20 the vets tried to charge me. He is putting weight on it when he feels like it but i struggle to get him walking very much on it, but time will tell Any advice would be welcome.

 

 

 

Best of luck with him mate