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even if Tom would have only been to ground for a couple of times, would it make him a less worthy dog ? often people are asking for fotos on this or that dog in action...does it make the dog a less w

Wex nice to see you here again have you ever realized that we are all europeans with antis all over and instead of standing together to fight our overpowered opponents we slander each other like chi

Look, not trying insult anyone but the guy put in his post that if a dog had only 1 or 2 digs to his credit, would that make it less worthy.........well to me....Yes, as a breeding prospect it would.

 

Secondly, he came on name dropping about a bloke who has done all the hard work and produced a line of top dogs, so then surley if he had so much RESPECT for the fella he would ask him what he considers proven and a breeding prospect........then if he really had respect, he would follow that blokes rules to the letter.

JMHO

@ Wilf,

you referred to my post and, how could it be different, totally out of the context...if you have read the whole post you would have seen that i only used the hypothesis ("even if...") to explain a point of view. and in this context i also asked some questions that none of you answered.

 

and one more thing. i, or anybody else, do not have to ask no one what he considers a proven breeding prospect or a proven dog, to adopt his point of view, since everyone defines that by himself (i also posted a few questions concernig this topic that again none of you answered), as long as one does everything to keep the terriers working to ground, and we surely do that!!!! you obviously have a strange point of view when it comes to the term of respect.

 

this is my last post ,concerning this topic since it is leading to nowhere because you (the guys that know everything) are not interested in a normal conversation...

maybe one of you could start a new topic with the title "when is a dog worth to be considered a prooven one" so you would see that there are many points of view, and what kind of proove did you bring anyway concerning your qualification judging about working terriers and foreign terriermen?

 

anyway,

best regards

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:victory:

 

@nelson - did someone erase a few post´s :hmm: ! I wasn´t drunk yesterday evening so i know for sure we write more ( the Lindenstraßenpart )! Do you think a mod erase it without sending a Pm before or after to tell a reason ?

weird !

Greeting´s

Steezy

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Tell me Rudi, would you class yourself as a commercial breeder, and how much on average would you sell your pups for.

 

Old Nuttall means absolutely naff all if the current stuff your breeding out of isn't tested, shame that the line has gone the way it has due to the ideas of some. A shame for the breed no doubt about it, that people like Brian have sold out to the yanks and europeans that are only interested in seeing pound signs in their eyes.

 

 

Not only Brian has sold dogs to the "yanks&europeans" but whats wrong with that?This man is the one&only true godfather of the patterdaleterrier no matter how hard you displace that and he has forgotten more about terriers than most of you will ever know.Anyway has the breed suffered from it and be assured someone interested in a money making thing will definately bring jack russels over or west highland whites or any other well known race to breed from.They sell like cookies for big money over here,never ever will the patterdales!

Since i was a boy i grow up with and kept/bred always "tested/proven" working terriers but in all the years no one knowing me has ever asked me if i would class myself a commercial breeder because in the end i never earnd money from my dogs?It was always an money investing lifestyle to better up a certain breed to hunt with and if i truely had some bucks left i re-invested it into the breed to better up the lines over here.Btw to make a living i still earn my money as a manual worker so Shay its up to you as a f*****g nobody to call me a "commercial breeder of old nuttall non tested patterdales with $ in eyes"!lol :)

 

Once again whats up with all you "terrier-preservers" ie chiefs,fellmans,wilfs&shaws paying good ol`germany a visit for that huge "german Patterdale-evidence-convention"?Hope we ll find enough quarry to show you we have good ones too but first of all you need to come over in person!?Lets get it on and hire a bus to bring you all back and forth!

 

 

Rudi

 

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Honestly i am not 100% sure if you guys are messing around with us germans?Maybe its one and the same person behind all them synonyms who in the end has a pretty good laugh about us?

 

 

RUDI ,

 

IVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH BRI A VERY LONG TIME ,........ SO THIS IS NO SNIPE AT HIM

 

HOWEVER ..........WHY DO YOU STATE ON YOUR SITE THAT YOU BOUGHT DIGGER " DIRECT " FROM NUTTAL ???????????? WHEN IN REALITY THE DOG CAME FROM ANOTHER GOOD FRIEND OF MINE IN NORTHUMBERLAND !!! ........... ALSO YOU HAD PHOTOS OF MY FRIENDS BITCHES IN NORTHUMBERLAND UP ON YOUR WEBSITE AS YOUR OWN DOGS UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES ?????????????

 

NOT THE ACTIONS OF AN HONEST MAN I WOULD SAY :hmm:

 

 

DUCKWING :big_boss:

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Very interesting info duckwing it appears lie's are being told. The sad thing is a lot of the "superstars" are selling out to the yanks and europeans. Their sole aim is to make money and this can only be frowned upon. They all know who they are and to be in the game for profit isn't right.

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RUDI ,

 

IVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH BRI A VERY LONG TIME ,........ SO THIS IS NO SNIPE AT HIM

 

HOWEVER ..........WHY DO YOU STATE ON YOUR SITE THAT YOU BOUGHT DIGGER " DIRECT " FROM NUTTAL ???????????? WHEN IN REALITY THE DOG CAME FROM ANOTHER GOOD FRIEND OF MINE IN NORTHUMBERLAND !!! ........... ALSO YOU HAD PHOTOS OF MY FRIENDS BITCHES IN NORTHUMBERLAND UP ON YOUR WEBSITE AS YOUR OWN DOGS UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES ?????????????

 

NOT THE ACTIONS OF AN HONEST MAN I WOULD SAY :hmm:

 

 

DUCKWING :big_boss:

 

"duckwing?!",(once again pseudonym)its strange that today after the dog is dead since 7years(!) you are showing off here on that board to count some peas.....

 

i drove with Brian to pick Digger up north of his yard maybe northumberland and Digger was bred by Brian so whats your problem?isnt it normal to call it a Nuttall-dog?????or should i have mentioned the dog on my site as Duckwings-good friend`s "Digger"??? and where on my site do i state i bought Digger directly off Brian???He recommanded the dog to me and as available and was the breeder of Digger so Brian for me is the one to mention!Not to mention Brian would be dishonest.Brian gave me also an own handwritten pedigree for the dog which i still ahve here so Digger will always be remained as a Nuttall dog no matter what the f**k you re writing here!At least urgently what about your friends bitches i would use on my website under differant names???Let me know where they are and why am i not honest?You are!!!If you have in the future a problem with me personally so why dont you contact me directly instead via a msgboard or guestbook???? while you are hidding behind a screen under a pseudonym?In the end why dont you ask Brian himself about it?

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Firstly I would like to thank Rudi for your reply, Its good to hear that you will be putting all your money back into new kennels and new bitches and even more money, further to that I have just had the pleasure of digging with Pickaxe and Chief today and this post has been discussed in detail, to say it brightened up our day is an understatement.

 

Just a question that cropped up today, how many generations down from Tom/Grom have you got now, Pups? Grandpups? Great Grandpups or Great Great Grandpups, with him being just a six year old dog.

 

:hmm:

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Very interesting info duckwing it appears lie's are being told. The sad thing is a lot of the "superstars" are selling out to the yanks and europeans. Their sole aim is to make money and this can only be frowned upon. They all know who they are and to be in the game for profit isn't right.

 

Wex

nice to see you here again

have you ever realized that we are all europeans with antis all over and instead of standing together to fight our overpowered opponents we slander each other like children in a nursery school???Excactly that makes them even stronger and helps them to degrade us more and more...not only over there!

Btw not so long ago you wrote me that you would appreciate it if i would keep your pm contents private??

so whats up??

it s it always funny to cooperate via a pseudonym

 

I curred out...That will be my last post onto that topic!Better things to do than wasting my time with such a crap

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